9 episodes

Jennifer (black mama) and Monika (white mama) tackle some tough conversations about race and parenting.

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    • Kids & Family
    • 5.0 • 34 Ratings

Jennifer (black mama) and Monika (white mama) tackle some tough conversations about race and parenting.

    None Of This Is OK

    None Of This Is OK

    So much has transpired in the last year, but has anything really changed? We reflect on a year of tragic anniversaries, check in on how schools are discussing (or not) what's happening around us, and are left wondering -- aren't we right back where we began?

    • 47 min
    Your Search Results Are Racist

    Your Search Results Are Racist

    The search engines and apps we use every day are not neutral - they have encoded biases that can reinforce racist stereotypes. In this episode, we talk with Dr. Safiya Umoja Noble, who wrote the book (literally) on search engine bias. We discuss how search engines can perpetuate racism, what we can do to create a more just internet, and why you should never take one of those "Which Disney Princess Are You?" quizzes. 
    Further Reading:
    Algorithms of Oppression: How Search Engines Reinforce Racism
    The Age of Surveillance Capitalism
    Venus in the Dark: Blackness and Beauty in Popular Culture

    • 50 min
    What Took So Long?

    What Took So Long?

    We try to make sense of why white people are seemingly just "waking" up to racism. And how we move forward from here. 
    What we're reading:
    When Black People are in Pain, White People Just Join Book Clubs
    What is an Anti-Racist Reading List For?
    10 Steps to Non-Optical Allyship
    Why White Parents Need to Do More Than Talk to Their Parents About Racism
    Beyond the Hashtag: How to Take Anti-Racist Action in Your Life
    'Unarmed Black Man' Doesn't Mean What You Think it Means
    What is Owed

    • 30 min
    What We Got Right... and Wrong

    What We Got Right... and Wrong

    It's been a year since we launched our first episode. We reflect on our parenting wins, where we've fallen short, and what happens when your school ups the ante on anti-racist discourse.
    Reading List:
    Black Lives Matter at School

    Zora: 100 Best Books by Black Female Authors
    Poetry Foundation: Celebrating Black History Month
    Here Wee Read

    • 32 min
    What Are You?

    What Are You?

    Have you ever asked this question? Have you ever been asked this question? The multiracial population is the fastest growing demographic in the U.S. Monika and Jennifer talk about our cultural fascination with -- and stereotypes about -- multiracial people. In what ways do we "other" them? Where do they fit in? Fellow mom Kira Onodera joins the show to share her experiences growing up biracial and how that shaped how she's raising her multiracial kids. Jennifer and Monika also ask the question -- how do you pass along a strong and positive racial identity, but not fear, in the age of Trump.
    Further reading/listening:
    Study Examines Stereotypes of Biracial Groups in the US

    Biracial Youth's Political Attitudes and Self-Identification Factors
    Code Switch: All Mixed Up
    Multiracial in America

    • 44 min
    'White Silence is Deadly'

    'White Silence is Deadly'

    Many white parents have no idea how to talk with their kids about race, so they avoid the topic entirely. But as author and professor Jennifer Harvey, PhD., points out, “White silence is deadly.” This week, we speak with Dr. Harvey about her brilliant book Raising White Kids: Bringing Up Children in a Racially Unjust America. We discuss why teaching kids to be colorblind doesn’t work, how to desegregate your life, and strategies for raising kids to be allies against racism. 


    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

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34 Ratings

34 Ratings

RawSimpleFact ,

Fight back AI

I never thought of the search engines would produce such racist results till I listened to this episode. I mean, if the machines are learning from “us”, I assume they will inevitably pick up “our” behaviors and make it their own. Isn’t it how children learn?

I’m so grateful that you not only discuss this issue, but also provide feasible solutions to fight it!

Amazing work! 👊👊👊

danshapley ,


I’m so glad you are back! As a white parent of a white son, I benefit a lot from these conversations about race among parents. The S2E2 ending resonates particularly: “Now is the time to make a plan.”

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Honest and informative

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