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This is the Branding Room Only podcast with Paula T. Edgar where we share career stories, strategies, and lessons learned on how industry leaders and influencers have built their personal brands.

Branding Room Only with Paula T. Edgar Paula T. Edgar

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This is the Branding Room Only podcast with Paula T. Edgar where we share career stories, strategies, and lessons learned on how industry leaders and influencers have built their personal brands.

    Trailblazing Change: Creating the Structures of a More Inclusive Legal Profession with Ben Wilson

    Trailblazing Change: Creating the Structures of a More Inclusive Legal Profession with Ben Wilson

    Ben Wilson is truly, truly the definition of a trailblazer, and if you joined us for part one, you've already experienced a glimpse of his incredible journey. 
    Ben’s dedication to advancing diversity and inclusion, environmental advocacy, coupled with his strategic vision for leadership offer so many invaluable lessons for all of us. I hope that his stories and the strategies he shares inspire you to think about your own impact and how you can contribute to positive change in your community and beyond.
    In this episode of the Branding Room Only podcast, you’ll learn about Ben’s visionary approach to creating support structures that contribute to a more inclusive and diverse legal profession. You’ll also hear about his unique insights into mentorship and the legacy he wants to leave behind.
    Now get ready for more thought-provoking wisdom, inspiration, laughs, and actionable advice from a true trailblazer in the profession.
    1:15 - How Ben formed The Diverse Lawyers Network, its impact, and why groups like these are necessary for Black lawyers
    14:44 - The key to getting chosen over those more qualified than you and what makes a brand great
    20:05 - A shoutout to Ben’s wife and to mothers who illustrate why the people who support you are a big part of your brand
    23:31 - What Ben does for fun and some of the work he’s involved in now since retiring from his firm
    27:42 - How Ben’s daughter describes his Branding Room Only moment and the importance of holding the door open for others

    Mentioned In Trailblazing Change: Creating the Structures of a More Inclusive Legal Profession with Ben Wilson


    Diverse Lawyers Network
    Black General Counsel 2025 Initiative
    Leadership Council on Legal Diversity
    Minority Corporate Counsel Association
    DC Bar Foundation
    Santa Clara University’s Black Corporate Board Readiness Program
    Books by Isabel Wilkerson


    Sponsor for this episode


    This episode is brought to you by PGE Consulting Group LLC.
    PGE Consulting Group LLC is dedicated to providing a practical hybrid of professional development training and diversity solutions. From speaking to consulting to programming and more, all services and resources are carefully tailored for each partner. Paula Edgar’s distinct expertise helps engage attendees and create lasting change for her clients.
    To learn more about Paula and her services, go to www.paulaedgar.com or contact her at info@paulaedgar.com, and follow Paula Edgar and the PGE Consulting Group LLC on LinkedIn.

    • 36 min
    Trailblazing Change: Leadership Legacy, Resilience, Diversity, and the Art of Personal Branding with Ben Wilson

    Trailblazing Change: Leadership Legacy, Resilience, Diversity, and the Art of Personal Branding with Ben Wilson

    A. P. Tureaud. Donald Hollowell. Constance Baker Motley.
    Those are just some of the Black men and women who have helped forge important change through the legal system in the U.S. Many people, however, aren’t aware of these pioneers and the impactful reach of their work to this day. That’s why my guest Ben Wilson often makes a point to "say their name" so that history doesn’t forget them. 
    Ben is a trailblazer in environmental law who gives gratitude to the pioneers who paved the way and those who supported him on his career journey. Ben is fantastic. I was truly honored to have the opportunity to discuss his thoughts about the importance of being resilient, embracing lessons learned from failure, and how helping others as a career hallmark can take your branding beyond professional success.
    In part one of our conversation on the Branding Room Only podcast, you’ll learn about how to build resilience and the impact it can have on your career and for the next generation. Ben will discuss how to be a trailblazer whose brand resonates and inspires others to follow.
    1:55 - Ben’s definition of personal branding, three words he’d use to describe himself, and his favorite Jackie Robinson and Dr. King quotes and hype songs
    10:15 - How growing up in Jackson, MS in the 1950s and 60s shaped Ben’s life and contributed to his admiration of lawyers (some of whom history has forgotten)
    16:36 - What it was like growing up on a college campus and the fortunate circumstance that allowed him to go to prep school
    20:29 - Why Ben chose to focus on environmental law, how he failed at first, and the lesson that failure provided him
    27:47 - The importance of resiliency and knowing what to do to separate yourself so you’re ready when opportunity arrives
    31:56 - A few of Ben’s cases that demonstrate the reach of environmental issues and how law can impact people’s lives
    39:10 - Qualities that are essential to being a good leader in your organization


    Sponsor for this episode


    This episode is brought to you by PGE Consulting Group LLC.
    PGE Consulting Group LLC is dedicated to providing a practical hybrid of professional development training and diversity solutions. From speaking to consulting to programming and more, all services and resources are carefully tailored for each partner. Paula Edgar’s distinct expertise helps engage attendees and create lasting change for her clients.
    To learn more about Paula and her services, go to www.paulaedgar.com or contact her at info@paulaedgar.com, and follow Paula Edgar and the PGE Consulting Group LLC on LinkedIn.

    • 44 min
    Inclusive Leadership Challenges That Organizations Must Overcome with Kori Carew

    Inclusive Leadership Challenges That Organizations Must Overcome with Kori Carew

    Regardless of recent attacks on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), moving forward is an inevitability. Organizations that want to thrive are going to have to get on board or get left behind. And they could use the help of someone like my friend Kori Carew.
    Kori is a former litigator turned speaker, writer, and consultant who advocates for (among other things) diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB). Through her work, she helps bridge differences and facilitates learning and growth for people and organizations in inclusive leadership development.
    In this episode of the Branding Room Only podcast, you’ll learn about the impact of inclusion on brands and the greatest challenges leaders face when confronting (or being confronted with) issues involving equity, diversity, inclusion, and belonging. You’ll also see how Kori’s background contributes to the unique way she works with organizations and individuals on these issues.
    1:25 - What personal brand means to Kori, how she (and others) describe her, and why she has a hard time coming up with favorite things
    10:58 - How Kori’s unique backstory growing up in Nigeria as a Canadian-born Sierra Leonean shaped her life
    17:31 - How studying political science opened the door to Kori becoming a defense lawyer
    23:01 - The driving force behind Kori’s work navigating inclusion with organizations and leaders and the specific nature of what she does
    30:04 - What it means for the brand of a leader who doesn’t prioritize inclusion now (and why many don’t want to talk about the consequences)
    35:46 - The biggest challenges for organizations that express a desire to improve their diversity and inclusion
    41:27 - Why truth-telling (with grace) is such an essential part of Kori’s brand and her Branding Room Only quality

    Connect With Kori Carew
    Kori Carew
    Instagram | LinkedIn | X


    Sponsor for this episode
    This episode is brought to you by PGE Consulting Group LLC.
    PGE Consulting Group LLC is dedicated to providing a practical hybrid of professional development training and diversity solutions. From speaking to consulting to programming and more, all services and resources are carefully tailored for each partner. Paula Edgar’s distinct expertise helps engage attendees and create lasting change for her clients.
    To learn more about Paula and her services, go to www.paulaedgar.com or contact her at info@paulaedgar.com, and follow Paula Edgar and the PGE Consulting Group LLC on LinkedIn.

    • 47 min
    How Inclusive Connections Help Build Your Brand As a Leader and Ally with David Sarnoff

    How Inclusive Connections Help Build Your Brand As a Leader and Ally with David Sarnoff

    Allyship is an ongoing journey, not a destination. There are best practices that’ll help you build your brand and reputation as an inclusive leader and true ally (and some not-so-best practices you’ll want to avoid).
    My guest David Sarnoff has so many stories about experiences and lessons that have forged an awareness of the importance of inclusive connections. He’s taken what he’s learned--from his childhood to his current work as an executive coach and consultant--to build a brand of authenticity and consistency. Now, he’s training, speaking, and facilitating workshops to help others become better leaders,allies, and advocates.
    In this episode of the Branding Room Only podcast, you’ll learn about the importance of protecting and cultivating your reputation, get David’s insights on allyship and inclusive leadership, and hear about the role of authenticity and consistency in building a strong brand. You’ll also discover the value of emotional intelligence, in-person relationship building, and how to have an effective mentor-mentee relationship in the workplace.
    00:56 - David introduces and describes himself, defines personal brand, and shares his hype songs and favorite Winston Churchill and Maya Angelou quotes
    6:38 - How David’s childhood gave him the most invaluable experience and education about how to interact with people
    14:36 - The importance of authenticity and consistency in building and protecting your personal brand and true allyship in situations of bias or discrimination
    20:23 - Why allyship is an ongoing journey for everyone and where people can go sideways with it and negatively affect their brand
    27:16 - Why emotional intelligence is a crucial skill for brand building, inclusive leadership, and effective mentorship
    33:56 - How leaders set the tone and build an inclusive feedback culture within their organization
    38:07 - One thing that doesn’t get emphasized enough that’ll help you build your brand and become an inclusive leader or ally
    41:10 - What David loves to do in his personal life, why he won’t compromise on ethics, and how his Branding Room Only moment is all about audience connection
    Connect With David Sarnoff
    David B. Sarnoff on LinkedIn
    Sarnoff Group LLC
    Loeb Leadership
    Practicing Law Institute
    Mentioned In How Inclusive Connections Help Build Your Brand As a Leader and Ally with David Sarnoff 
    “Beyond 9/11: Life and Legacy of Joan Donna Griffith - A Conversation With My Father, Peter Griffith”
    The Leadership Challenge
    Sponsor for this episode
    This episode is brought to you by PGE Consulting Group LLC.
    PGE Consulting Group LLC is dedicated to providing a practical hybrid of professional development training and diversity solutions. From speaking to consulting to programming and more, all services and resources are carefully tailored for each partner. Paula Edgar’s distinct expertise helps engage attendees and create lasting change for her clients.
    To learn more about Paula and her services, go to www.paulaedgar.com or contact her at info@paulaedgar.com, and follow Paula Edgar and the PGE Consulting Group LLC on LinkedIn.

    • 47 min
    Embrace Who You Really Are & Unlock a True Sense of Belonging with Ritu Bhasin

    Embrace Who You Really Are & Unlock a True Sense of Belonging with Ritu Bhasin

    Feeling like an outsider and attempting to conform to societal norms can lead to a loss of self-identity and a longing for true belonging.
    Ritu Bhasin, a child of immigrants, has navigated her own journey of self-acceptance and emerged as a leading voice in equity, empowerment, and belonging.She’s also a passionate advocate for authenticity and helps others stand in their power in high-conformity workplaces.
    Her books, The Authenticity Principle and We’ve Got This, provide strategies and a framework for living more authentically and cultivating your relationship with yourself. She’s on the show today to share insights from her books and her journey towards self-acceptance and aligned choices.
    In this episode of the Branding Room Only podcast, you’ll learn about how to courageously choose to be who you really are and create an unshakeable sense of belonging. She’ll share her framework for navigating challenging professional settings while still maintaining authenticity, and also reveal the key to experiencing true belonging.
    1:24 - Ritu and I discuss how we define personal branding, the three words that describe her, and her favorite quote and 10-minute hype song
    9:38 - How Ritu is a reflection of what happened to her in her childhood and the transformative power of therapy
    17:04 - Ritu’s career journey (from joining big law for the wrong reason to becoming a business leader and DEI consultant) and legacy as a driver
    24:20 - Why Ritu wrote The Authenticity Principle, the core message behind it, and the Three Selves we all possess on the authenticity spectrum
    31:09 - How to tell the difference between hiding versus adapting who you are in the moment, especially in high-conformity environments
    34:06 - The big “A-ha” moment that led to Ritu’s second book and how you unlock the beauty of belonging
    43:21 - What to do if you’re struggling with being your authentic self in professional settings
    47:22 - What Ritu will never compromise about herself and her brand and when she feels she’s in her best element professionally
    Mentioned In Embrace Who You Really Are & Unlock a True Sense of Belonging with Ritu Bhasin

    The Authenticity Principle: Resist Conformity, Embrace Differences, and Transform How You Live, Work, and Lead by Ritu Bhasin
    We’ve Got This: Unlocking the Beauty to Belonging by Ritu Bhasin
    “Osaka Riddim Mix” by DJ JEL | The Soca Boss on SoundCloud
    Vernā Myers
    “A Tribute to My Mother Joan Donna Griffith”
    Sponsor for this episode
    This episode is brought to you by PGE Consulting Group LLC.
    PGE Consulting Group LLC is dedicated to providing a practical hybrid of professional development training and diversity solutions. From speaking to consulting to programming and more, all services and resources are carefully tailored for each partner. Paula Edgar’s distinct expertise helps engage attendees and create lasting change for her clients.
    To learn more about Paula and her services, go to www.paulaedgar.com or contact her at info@paulaedgar.com, and follow Paula Edgar and the PGE Consulting Group LLC on LinkedIn.

    • 49 min
    How Aliza Shatzman Is Fighting for Accountability and Change In the Judiciary

    How Aliza Shatzman Is Fighting for Accountability and Change In the Judiciary

    You should authentically embody your personal brand, regardless of who you interact with. Your personal brand should also reflect your values and evolve based on your experiences.    
    Your brand should show up in your advocacy. 
    This is why I invited Aliza Shatzman to be on the podcast. Her personal experiences in clerkship drive her authentic advocacy. Now, as the founder and president of The Legal Accountability Project, she aims to ensure that law clerks have positive clerkship experiences while extending support and resources to those who don’t.
    In this episode of the Branding Room Only podcast, you’ll learn about what Aliza’s doing to fight for greater judicial accountability and to arm law students and law schools with more information about clerkship experiences.  1:09 - How Aliza defines a personal brand, herself in three words, reveals her favorite Hillary Clinton quote
    2:45 - How growing up in a progressive Jewish community in suburban Philadelphia shaped Aliza and her view of the world
    5:06 - Aliza’s professional journey, the pushback against change in the judiciary, and her refusal to stay silent
    11:35 - The clerkship incident that led Aliza to launch her judicial accountability-focused organization
    18:14 - My negative experience interviewing with a judge to be a judicial intern and strong feelings on the need for (and lack of) accountability
    25:01 - How law students and young lawyers can start making a difference with judicial accountability right now
    29:13 - How a lot of people’s personal brands are very tied to their clerkship (and judgeship) in a dishonest way
    32:40 - What drives Aliza and how she aligns her personal brand with her advocacy while maintaining professional integrity and ethics
    39:01 - What Aliza does for fun every day, the aspect of her brand that’ll always exist, and her Branding Room Only magic


    Mentioned In How Aliza Shatzman Is Fighting for Accountability and Change In the Judiciary
    “2024 Intention and Goal Setting Webinar” | YouTube
    The Legal Accountability Project | Twitter/X | LinkedIn
    Aliza Shatzman on Twitter/X
    Aliza Shatzman on LinkedIn

    Sponsor for this episode
    This episode is brought to you by PGE Consulting Group LLC.
    PGE Consulting Group LLC is dedicated to providing a practical hybrid of professional development training and diversity solutions. From speaking to consulting to programming and more, all services and resources are carefully tailored for each partner. Paula Edgar’s distinct expertise helps engage attendees and create lasting change for her clients.
    To learn more about Paula and her services, go to www.paulaedgar.com or contact her at info@paulaedgar.com, and follow Paula Edgar and the PGE Consulting Group LLC on LinkedIn.

    • 44 min

Customer Reviews

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13 Ratings

13 Ratings

NativeNYer4life ,

Gems in every episode

Convos are always so authentic. I come away with a gem every episode.

ErickaC84 ,

Great podcast if you’re looking for branding advice!

If you’re looking for a podcast to help grow your brand or business, this podcast is for you! I love listening to the insightful conversations on this show and Paula knows how to ask the right questions!

MorenikeW ,

Gems!!! Wisdom!! Timeless tactics!!

Game-changing gems are being dropped in EVERY episode. I stepped into corporate America without a clue, and wish I would have had a resource like this to practically breakdown the tips and tools that can accelerate your career trajectory (with less battle scars). It’s literally a professional cheat code to greatness!! Highly recommend adding this podcast to your rotation. You won’t regret it!!!

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