Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat Dwarkesh Podcast

Here is my episode with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind
We discuss:
* Why scaling is an artform
* Adding search, planning, & AlphaZero type training atop LLMs
* Making sure rogue nations can't steal weights
* The right way to align superhuman AIs and do an intelligence explosion
Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript here.
Timestamps
(0:00:00) - Nature of intelligence
(0:05:56) - RL atop LLMs
(0:16:31) - Scaling and alignment
(0:24:13) - Timelines and intelligence explosion
(0:28:42) - Gemini training
(0:35:30) - Governance of superhuman AIs
(0:40:42) - Safety, open source, and security of weights
(0:47:00) - Multimodal and further progress
(0:54:18) - Inside Google DeepMind


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