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A podcast about playing the game Diplomacy and its variants. Kaner and Amby discuss the latest developments and game news in virtual face to face and online eg WebDiplomacy, vDiplomacy, PlayDiplomacy, backstabbr and more.

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A podcast about playing the game Diplomacy and its variants. Kaner and Amby discuss the latest developments and game news in virtual face to face and online eg WebDiplomacy, vDiplomacy, PlayDiplomacy, backstabbr and more.

    Podcast scheduling update

    Podcast scheduling update

    No show due to real life stuff. Back in two weeks.

    • 1 min
    Face to Face is back! Interview with Jamal Blakkarly winner of PoppyCon 2021

    Face to Face is back! Interview with Jamal Blakkarly winner of PoppyCon 2021

    The guys interview Jamal Blakkarly, winner of PoppyCon 2021, the first face to face Diplomacy tournament since Covid (excluding that 7 player European championship.) Plus they chat about Media Wars 2 and much, much more.
    Lockdown intro and Diplomacy news
    The guys set the scene about the most recent lockdown in Brisbane and their drinks  (0 mins 10 secs)
    They're going to do their first live interview on the show. They set the scenes for the interview (4 mins 20 secs)
    Amby discusses briefly the guys' France v Austria 1 on 1 game on their Patreon feed and give a shout out to our latest Patreon supporter (7 mins)
    Amby flags that their $3 Patreon supporter level which used to get you a position in Kaner's presidential cabinet if he won (9 mins 15 secs)
    He goes onto discuss how Brisbane now has the sole negotiating rights with the International Olympics Committee for the 2032 summer olympics. Amby proposes that we need to get Diplomacy as an offcicial olympic sport and set up a lobbying campaign (10 mins 30 secs)
    Kaner outlines his decision to take a break from playing games at the moment (16 mins 40 secs)
    Interview with Jamal Blakkarly
    Kaner & Amby bring Jamal into the interview. He quickly grabs a beverage (20 mins 30 secs)
    The guys congratulate Jamal on his win, beating Shane Cubis by one-eighth of an SC. Kaner asks which was the best game/country he played (23 mins 45 secs)
    Amby asks Jamal what it was like to be at last playing face-to-face tournaments since Covid (23 mins 45 secs)
    They talk about the vibe of the tournament and the players. Kaner asks about how aware Jamal was about the points (28 mins)
    Jamal discuses the mistakes he learnt in the tournament (31 mins 30 secs)
    Amby asks if Jamal's brother Jarni played (34 mins 50 secs)
    They discuss Jamal's game style and how its developed over time (36 mins 20 secs)
    They talk stabbing (39 mins)
    Amby asks about the social aspect of the tournament outside the games (46 mins 45 secs)
    He asks about what interaction he had with Shane as they headed toward the end of the tournament (49 mins 45 secs)
    Kaner asks if Jamal has a favorite country to play (51 mins 30 secs)
    Amby does a couple of shout outs for the other main tournament players (54 mins 40 secs)
    They start wrapping up the interview (57 mins)
    Post interview Kaner discusses how he sucks as England (58 mins)
    Media Wars 2
    Amby announces the Media Wars 2 game (a game of Diplomacy content creators) has now started. He gives an outline of the players and the moves at the end of 1901 (59 mins)
    Kaner asks Amby why he thinks Austria tried moving into Venice (1 hr 6 mins 20 secs)
    Amby reflects on the number of units in fall 1901 that just held (1 hr 10 mins 50 secs)
    Amby mentions his plans for why he moved to Tyrolia will be discussed in the Patreon episode before they wrap up (1 hr 15 mins 45 secs)
    Venues: Locked down at home, Brisbane
    Drinks of choice:
    Kaner: Somersby cloudy apple cider
    Amby: Wynns Coonwarra estate cabinet shiraz merlot
    Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!
    Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.
    Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

    • 1 hr 15 min
    Interview with Peter McNamara

    Interview with Peter McNamara

    The guys interview winner of the DBI Invitational, Peter McNamara about his gameplay. Plus Bronze Age Diplomacy, variant ideas from the guys and much more.
    Intro and Diplomacy news
    The guys talk about their drinks and venue (0 mins 10 secs)
    Interview with Peter McNamara
    Kaner & Amby begin to introduce the interview with Peter McNamara and what's coming up (2 mins 30 secs)
    The interview starts with setting the scene after Peter's win at the DBN Invitational.  Amby asks how people were invited to attend the tournament (5 mins)
    Amby asks about the earlier rounds and seeding (8 mins 20 secs)
    They discuss why Peter went for Italy. You can read his article in the Diplomacy Briefing (10 mins 20 secs)
    Amby asks about where Peter planned to take things in the mid-game (13 mins)
    Kaner asks about the geography of the board (14 mins)
    Amby asks Peter about stabbing allies (15 mins 20 secs)
    They discuss reading the board (17 mins)
    Amby asks about how Peter got into the game, before asking about how tournaments extend you as a player (18 mins 15 secs)
    Amby asks what Peter has learnt recently in games, before discussing Peter's game play (20 mins)
    They discuss intuition vs computational approaches to the game, before discussing reputations (23 mins 20 secs)
    Kaner asks Peter how he finds the virtual environment (27 mins)
    They discuss tournaments of the future (28 mins 30 secs)
    Amby asks what Peter was looking for in an ally in the final DBN Invitational game. Peter discusses goals (32 mins 45 secs)
    They discuss the length of the games in the DBN Invitational (36 mins 45 secs)
    Amby asks if there was a tournament trophy before asking about whether Peter would play Italy again next time or whether he'd go for another country (40 mins 50 secs)
    Kaner asks about his thinking process during the game and scope for innovation in openings (52 mins 30 secs)
    Peter asks the guys when they'll have a face to face game in Brisbane again (44 mins 45 secs)
    Amby asks Peter if he thinks there's different Diplomacy scenes in Australia. They talk about the upcoming PoppyCon tournament (46 mins 30 secs)
    Peter discusses his plans for the upcoming WDC's (49 mins 30 secs)
    The guys wrap up the interview (51 mins)
    Kaner and Amby return, with Amby trying to advocate attacking Russia from the start (52 mins 15 secs)
    Amby asks Kaner what else he got out of the interview (55 mins 15 secs)
    Amby discusses Peter's strategy of picking Italy in the final game and patience (58 mins)
    Around the grounds
    Amby brings up his Europa Renovatio team game as Austria and how he went from doing well to being stabbed all round (59 mins 45 secs)
    Amby discusses the concentric circles on the board (1 hr 6 mins 15 secs)
    The guys move bars to O'Skulligans and discuss drinks (1 hr 9 mins 30 secs)
    Amby starts discussing a new variant in development he's testing. He talks about the way variant developers are doing this while Oli is unavailable on vDip (1 hr 11 mins 15 secs)
    He talks about the work Fake Al has been doing on Bronze Age Diplomacy where Amby is playing as Syria (1 hr 13 mins 30 secs)

    Amby discusses his decision to stab Babylonia and discusses the dynamics of the map (1 hr 20 mins)
    He reads some info from Fake Al about how limited variant development can still happen at vDip (1 hr 25 mins)
    They discuss possible options for which variant to develop, with a particular focus around flooding/raised water levels (1 hr 29 mins)
    The disagree on what to do: a flooded planet, continent or city. Try FloodMap to have your own play with flooding maps (1 hr 33 mins)
    They move again to a new bar, Greaser, but have a recording dilemma with about 15 minutes talking about Fake Al and Bronze Age Diplomacy disappearing (1 hr 37 mins)
    Amby and Kaner discuss who from the podcast will be in the upcoming Media Wars 2 game and other players (1 hr 38 mins)
    Amby has won a ranked game with the 1066 variant  (1

    • 1 hr 51 min
    Diplomacy Chat

    Diplomacy Chat

    The guys catch up for some drinks and a chat around their current Diplomacy endeavors and games.
    Intro and Diplomacy news
    The guys talk about their drinks and venue (0 mins 10 secs)
    They were hoping to play a face to face game on Sunday but have failed to get the numbers again (3 mins 45 secs)
    They also provide an update about their now non-attendance at PoppyCon in Melbourne, the first post-Covid face to face tournament in the world (4 mins 40 secs)
    Amby discusses ideas on how to drum up more people to come along to a game (9 mins 50 secs)
    Kaner gives a shout out to Peter McNamara on his victory at the DBN Invitational (14 mins)
    He discusses some of the upcoming virtual tournaments (16 mins 50 secs)
    Around the grounds
    Amby gives an update about his online games - a Mate Against Mate game called Happy Australia Day and his Imperial Diplomacy II game Pointy Pointy Stabby Stabby. Kaner discusses unit icons (18 mins 30 secs)
    He discusses his Europa Renovation team game where he's playing as Austria (24 mins 30 secs)
    They move onto an anonymous Divided States game they're both in, avoiding discussing who is who, but doing a breakdown of everyone's openings. And in the process probably getting a few bits of geography wrong (29 mins 20 secs)

    Kaner moves onto his games, starting with his webDip World Cup gunboat game where he was part of a three way draw as Austria. You can follow their discussion around key phases by going to the map history page (53 mins)
    They grab some more drinks and its onto another win by Kaner as Turkey on a Classic 1897 map. They discusses the random fun bonkers of Italy in the game, paying attention to Fall 1905  (1 hr 7 mins 5 secs)

    Amby asks Kaner what he's getting out of playing gunboat at the moment (1 hr 18 mins 20 secs)
    The guys wrap up the show (1 hr 20 mins)
    Venue: Indooroopilly Hotel, Brisbane
    Drinks of choice:
    Kaner: Orchrd Crush cider by James Squire
    Amby: Balter XPA and Ridoch shiraz
    Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!
    Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.
    Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

    • 1 hr 19 min
    Interview with John Dansie

    Interview with John Dansie

    The guys interview Australian Defense Force chaplain John Dansie on using Diplomacy in professional military education of officers. Plus they talk about upcoming face to face games, their online games and Kaner makes a helluva mess.
    The guys restart talking about other podcasts and Amby gives a big thumbs up to Brother Bored's Diplomacy Dojo (0 mins 10 secs)
    They talk about their drinks (1 min 45 secs)
    Amby talks about Bin Chicken Paradise. More here. (2 mins 45 secs)
    Interview with John Dansie
    Amby starts setting the scene for our interview with Australian Defense Force chaplain John Dansie (5 mins 30 secs)
    The guys welcome John to the show (6 mins 30 secs)
    Amby asks John how got introduced to the game (7 mins)
    He asks about how John brought Diplomacy into the professional military education of Australian officers and want he wanted to get out of it. You can read his article on The Cove (8 mins 30 secs)
    Kaner asks about the feedback from players after the game (11 mins 45 secs)
    Amby asks about deception and lack of trust and how officers would apply that experience in a real world scenario (13 mins 30 secs)
    He goes onto ask about players who didn't do well and how they related to it (16 mins 40 secs)
    Kaner discusses the soft skills Diplomacy teaches when it comes to leadership (18 mins 45 secs)
    They discuss playing without deception (22 mins 45 secs)
    Amby asks about the format of the games. John talks about the creative strategies used by players (24 mins 30 secs)
    Amby asks what feedback John has received from the higher ups (26 mins 45 secs)
    They discuss the use of wargaming in the military (28 mins)
    Amby asks what feedback John got on the paper published in The Cove (29 mins 15 secs)
    They discuss what John hopes to get out of the experience (31 mins)
    They go onto ask what John would like to see in two years time (32 mins 30 secs)
    Amby asks about whether any players after the game maintained an interest in Diplomacy (34 mins 20 secs)
    Kaner discusses about  his father playing Diplomacy in the Australian Navy (39 mins)
    They wrap up the interview (41 mins 30 secs)
    Post interview the guys give their thoughts. Amby would like to know if other militaries use the game in a similar way (43 mins 30 secs)
    The guys talk about the use of Diplomacy as a teaching tool in schools and universities (47 mins 45 secs)
    Diplomacy chat
    Kaner and Amby have moved to Blute's Bar. They talk about their new drinks (49 mins 40 secs)
    The guys talk about the first post-Covid face to face tournament - PoppyCon in Melbourne at the end of March - and whether they'll attend. They discuss the positives and negatives (52 mins 10 secs)
    Amby says they have five players who can make a 7 March face to face game in Brisbane. So they just need to get another two folk for a game (58 mins 15 secs)
    Kaner flags how the virtual Diplomacy League has created a map of where players are so you can organise face to face games once Covid calms down a bit. Sign up on their Google form (1 hr 1 mins 40 secs)
    Kaner and Amby are hosting their own virtual game for Patreon supporters of the show. If you're interested why not sign up as a Patreon friend of the show (1 hr 3 mins 20 secs)
    Around the grounds
    Amby starts with the Winning is for Losers game which is now over. It ended in a draw (Amby as England on 2 SCs) with gopher pulling a strong Austrian position of 14 SC's (1 hr 4 mins 20 secs)
    His declaration of war game is now over in a draw, with Amby being the last knocked out (1 hr 9 mins)
    He's just alive in an Imperial II game (1 hr 11 mins 50 secs)
    They move onto their webDip World Cup games. Amby's game has just finished in a 4 way draw. Amby was England and ended on 9 SCs (1 hr 13 mins)
    Amby discusses the liberating feeling of having 100% control of the Baltic/Gulf of Bothnia (1 hr 15 mins)

    Kaner talks abut his games, but being gunboat he doesn't want to provide game

    • 1 hr 39 min
    The Juggernaut Victorious!

    The Juggernaut Victorious!

    The guys record a back-to-back rather drunk episode. They talk about their (at the time) current games and prove the slow but effective Juggernaut alliance, before starting on an Anschluss alliance game.

    Intro & Diplomacy chat
    The guys restart on their 3rd drink at Brisbane Brewing Co and talk about their planned Diplomacy Wives Club interview they planned that never happened (0 mins 10 secs)
    Amby presents Kaner with his belated Christmas present (5 mins 30 secs)
    Around the grounds
    They provide (by now) a belated Around the grounds update, starting with their anonymous Europa Renovatio team game where Kaner is effectively playing gunboat despite the game being full press. Amby gives his take on how he's been going. They discuss a gentlemanly stab. (7 mins 40 secs)
    Kaner briefly touches on being in gunboat games before Amby discusses some of his games (14 mins 20 secs)
    Amby discusses the Winning is for Losers game (16 mins) [This game has actually since ended in a draw]
    The guys chat about different pronunciations in Australia. Below is the video posted by gopher on the stupidity of the discussion (and a good synopsis of two drunk Aussies talking Diplomacy - while bitching about pronunciations) (18 mins 20 secs)

    After more beers, Amby talks about buying into a game (Enjoy Division) where a player CD'ed. He was eliminated and then the players drew. Amby talks about Dr Recommended's great game as Portugal (22 mins 30 secs)
    Finishing off the Juggernaut
    The guys return to their game against the bots in their final installment of testing the Juggernaut (32 mins)
    They update the situation on the board after fall 1909 (34 mins)
    Fall 1909

    The guys start planning their moves for spring 1910 (39 mins 30 secs)
    They then finalise, do retreats and dissect the moves (46 mins 30 secs)
    Spring 1910

    Next up, Fall 1910. The guys do their planning (49 mins 30 secs)
    Time for adjudicating moves for Fall 1910 (54 mins)

    The guys plan builds (55 mins 30 secs)
    Then its onto disbands and Spring 1911 (57 mins 20 secs)
    The guys finalise and discuss what happened with the Spring 1911 moves (1 hr 2 mins)
    Spring 1911

    The guys then plan their fall 1911 moves (1 hr 2 mins 40 secs)
    We finalise orders and review what happened including Kaner's f**k up with Gulf of Lyon, before moving onto builds (1 hr 6 mins 20 secs)
    Fall 1911

    Onto spring 1912 with Kaner taking special care to not screw up again (1 hr 8 mins)
    The guys then review what happened with orders and retreats (1 hr 10 mins)
    Spring 1912

    They then plan fall 1912 with the start of some breakthrough moves  (1 hr 11 mins)
    They review the orders after adjudication (1 hr 16 mins)
    Fall 1912

    And its onto spring 1913 and plan how to make the Jug unstoppable with some tricky forward retreat plans from Kaner (1 hr 20 mins)
    They finalise and dissect the board after getting some more beers and discuss Amby's f**k up (1 hr 25 mins)
    Spring 1913

    Onto fall 1913 now with plans as they start heading toward the end game (1 hr 26 mins)
    The turn adjudicates and the guys explain what happened  (1 hr 30 mins 45 secs)
    Fall 1913

    They decide to wrap up the game, especially after Kaner's treacherous build (1 hr 33 mins 50 secs)
    They acknowledge once more that while the Juggernaut is successful its a real slog. You can view the game at webDip (1 hr 35 mins)
    Kaner wants to play another game: the Anschluss
    They discuss the other bot games they paused and Kaner gives the go ahead for an unbreakable alliance between Austria and Germany. They plan their moves for spring 1901 (1 hr 37 mins)
    The game adjudicates and they discuss the moves (1 hr 40 mins)
    Spring 1901

    They begin planning for Fall 1901 (1 hr 41 mins 30 secs)
    They ready orders up (1 hr 43 mins 10 secs)
    Fall 1901

    At this point the SD card in the recorder fills up and stops recording. Amby apologies post-show about what happened and gives a tease about next week

    • 1 hr 44 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
6 Ratings

6 Ratings

Hal - NYC ,

Diplomatic Review

Thank you for creating a podcast for the game Diplomacy! Good interviews, information just wish the sound quality was a bit better.

Chave 22 ,

Best Diplomacy Podcast, Hands Down

Listen in while Amby and Kaner get progressively more inebriated and talk diplomacy. Their games are entertaining, the interviews are interesting, and the drink discussion is always on point.

My only qualm is the background noise can make voices difficult to distinguish. The efforts to keep the ambient volume low are appreciated.

Eagerly anticipating the next installment, keep up the good work! Regarding the episode notes - cjuric is spelled without a "k". Shout out is wonderful nonetheless.

Best of luck with the backstabbing!


A wandering moose ,

Fills the Web & Variant-oriented Diplomacy Niche

The Diplomacy hobby has a few different fan-supported publications that make the rounds: "The Diplomatic Pouch" and "Diplomacy World" are two examples in the online newsletter space, and Chris Martin's Youtube channel covers a good chunk of the face-to-face happenings in the hobby.
What's not quite as well-covered, and what Kaner & Amby provide here, is a window into Diplomacy as it is most frequently played, via web-based interfaces. Though their expertise is primarily from webDiplomacy and vDiplomacy, they've been branching out to other sites as well like PlayDiplomacy.
Where I find the most benefit from "Diplomacy Games" is the focus on variants. Many Diplomacy players (like the aforementioned Chris Martin) are purists; they only really like the original game, and they don't spend a lot of time with variants.
However, there are quite a few of us that see Diplomacy as a sort of family of rules (or platform) with which you can play multiple scenarios. For us, we're always looking for new variants with interesting rules and subject matters. Kaner & Amby cover those in decent detail, and it's fun to hear the gears turning as they discuss a new and interesting map or ruleset.
I have a couple criticisms of the cast, but nothing serious.
1) It's can be a little disorganized.
- Though Amby & Kaner always have a rough outline of what they want to discuss in an episode, the coverage can be a bit more stream-of-consciousness than I care for.
- However, the Full Description of each episode gives useful timestamps on a topic-by-topic breakdown, so it's easy to skip long sections for topics less to my interest.
2) The background noise can be distracting.
- They record their shows inside their favorite Australian bars, so you'll get periodic crowd noise and road noise.
- It definitely gives the cast a bit of charm, so it's not a huge negative.

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