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A podcast about playing the game Diplomacy and its variants. Kaner and Amby discuss the latest developments and game news in virtual face to face and online eg WebDiplomacy, vDiplomacy, PlayDiplomacy, backstabbr and more.

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A podcast about playing the game Diplomacy and its variants. Kaner and Amby discuss the latest developments and game news in virtual face to face and online eg WebDiplomacy, vDiplomacy, PlayDiplomacy, backstabbr and more.

    Interview with Ed Sullivan/GoHornsGo and Village Idiot/Ewok on Media Wars 2

    Interview with Ed Sullivan/GoHornsGo and Village Idiot/Ewok on Media Wars 2

    The guys unpack Amby's draw in Media Wars 2 and get the take of the board topping Ed Sullivan/GoHornsGo and Village Idiot/Ewok in an interview. Plus much more.


    Intro and Diplomacy news
    The guys begin at Bar Brutus and do a mea culpa (0 mins 10 secs)

    With some clever editing we've removed all the f*****g train noises. They talk about their recent holidays that have partly delayed episodes (2 mins 10 secs)

    Kaner talks about a board game he bought: Imperial Struggle (5 mins 50 secs)

    Amby asks how a Diplomacy game would work if you couldn't eliminate a player in the first 3 game years (7 mins 50 secs)

    Amby flags the upcoming decision on the hosting of the 2032 Olympics on 21 July 2021, where the guys are trying to make Diplomacy an Olympic sport (10 mins 50 secs)

    He then goes to talk about a new Diplomacy app - Primacy. It is on iPhone and Android, but Kaner couldn't find it in the Google Play store. You can find Primacy in GooglePlay and Primacy on iPhone (12 mins 20 secs)


    Media Wars 2 interview with Ed Sullivan/GoHornsGo and Village Idiot/Ewok
    They start introducing the interview with Ed Sullivan/GoHornsGo from The Diplomats and Village Idiot/Ewok who both topped the board in Media Wars 2 (13 mins 45 secs)

    The interview starts with some audio issues at the start for Amby, sorry folks we're aiming to upgrade some of our tech soon to improve things (16 mins)

    Village Idiot/Ewok discusses his subbing in (18 mins 50 secs)

    Amby asks about the coms when Village Idiot (Russia) started taking SCs from Ed (Germany)  (20 mins)

    Amby tries to understand how Ed worked with Ezio (France) in 1901 (22 mins 30 secs)

    Ed talks about player pressure points (25 mins)

    They discuss Amby's 1901 moves (26 mins)

    Amby asks about their gameplay, building trust and reputation (27 mins 50 secs)

    Ed reflects on Legendary Tactics approach (Austria) at the time (34 mins 15 secs)

    Amby discusses the transition from Lady Razor to Village Idiot before they discuss the north-south split (36 mins 30 secs)

    They discuss the Commowealth vs Non-Commonwealth (40 mins 50 secs)

    They discuss the fallout between Germany (Ed) and France (Ezio) over Belgium and France going quiet (43 mins 20 secs)

    Amby discusses the southern alliance's plans to encourage Ed's growth and why his spidey senses told him to draw (45 mins 40 secs)

    Amby asks them both about their positive takeaways from the game and what they'd like to do again in the future (51 mins)

    He then asks about what they learnt from the game (52 mins 20 secs)

    Amby gets greedy and asks for their advice about is gameplay (54 mins 55 secs)

    They discuss Media Wars 3 (57 mins 20 secs)

    They guys return and discuss their thoughts on the interview and Kaner playing for the podcast next time (58 mins 30 mins)


    Media Wars 2 wrap-up
    Following the interview Kaner asks Amby about his take on the game as Italy. Amby starts by discussing his spring 1901 move of Venice to Tyrolia (1 hr 2 mins)

    Amby discusses goals and Ed's goals at the start of the Diplomats (1 hr 4 mins)

    They discuss building relationships, putting yourselves in the shoes of others and knowing how people have previously played the game (1 hr 10 mins)

    Amby talks about rebuilding trust with players, particularly Legendary Tactics as Austria. Kaner asks about Amby's relationship with Oliver Lugg as Turkey (1 hr 15 mins 20 secs)

    Kaner asks why France (Ezio) kept attacking Amby (1 hr 18 mins)

    They talk the end game (1 hr 20 mins)

    They discuss Kaner's thoughts on playing in Media Wars 3 (1 hr 23 mins)


    Around the grounds
    Kaner talks about how he went in You Ratty Bastard where he was part of a three way draw in Italy. This was a 1898 game so you start with one unit only and its played under fog of war conditions (1 hr 24 mins 20 secs)

    They discuss the interfaces to view previous maps from earlier turns (1 hr 27 mins)

    Amby talks about his game

    • 1 hr 55 min
    Interview with Isabelle Vladoiu

    Interview with Isabelle Vladoiu

    The guys interview Isabella Vladoiu from US Institute of Diplomacy and Human Rights about how the game relates to real life Diplomacy. Plus they discuss their games and a public service announcement from all Mods.


    Intro and Diplomacy news
    The guys are still at the Empire Hotel.  Amby disses Google.  They do a drinks update (0 mins 10 secs)

    They give a Diplomacy face to face update and ideas to get more people into the game (3 mins 30 secs)


    Interview with Isabelle Vladoiu from US Institute of Diplomacy and Human Rights
    The guys set the scene for their interview with Isabelle Vladoiu, founder of US Institute of Diplomacy and Human Rights, a not for profit organization (6 mins 30 secs)

    Kaner and Amby welcome Isabelle to the show. Kaner asks about the sort of work she does (7 mins 30 secs)

    Kaner reflects on reputation and asks how a diplomatic negotiation takes place (12 mins 30 secs)

    Amby asks about soft skills in breaking through an impasse and re-establishing trust (17 mins)

    Amby asks Isabelle about her understanding of the game Diplomacy (19 mins 30 secs)

    Kaner touches on Isabelle's point about linguistic barriers, and throws to Amby to discuss his previous experience with Google Translate Diplomacy (24 mins 45 secs)

    Kaner asks about backdoor diplomacy, they go onto discuss deliberate false statements (30 mins)

    They start wrapping up the interview reflecting on the role of etiquette and where listeners can learn more about US Institute of Diplomacy and Human Rights (38 mins)

    The guys reflect back on the interview and their thoughts on its application to the game Diplomacy (40 mins 45 secs)


    Ar-Kansas chat
    Amby gives Kaner an update on the pronunciation of Arkansas (45 mins 30 secs)


    Around the grounds
    Kaner asks Amby about how he's going in their joint game "Ratty Bastards 2" (49 mins 30 secs)

    Amby reflects on the fog of war nature of the game (52 mins 15 secs)

    Amby talks about his other anonymous game, "DSA" a Divided States game (56 mins 15 secs)


    Public service announcement
    As a Mod at vDip, Kaner gives an example of what NOT to do when dealing with mods at webDip, playDip, Backstabbr etc (1 hr 0 mins)

    The guys wrap up the show (1 hr 8 mins)


    Venues: Empire Hotel, Brisbane


    Drinks of choice:


    Kaner: Mahogany American Brown Ale by Brendale Brewing Company


    Amby: Maxwell's Silver Hammer shiraz from the McLaren Vale


    Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!


    Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.


    Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

    • 1 hr 8 min
    Kaner vs Brother Bored

    Kaner vs Brother Bored

    Kaner takes on Brother Bored in a live France vs Austria game and learns a few lessons. Amby is also "learning lessons" in his Media Wars 2 game.


    Intro and Diplomacy news
    The guys discuss the venue, drinks and set the scene for today's episode (0 mins 10 secs)

    Kaner discusses the Summer Classic virtual tournament being held 23-25 July (2 mins 35 secs)

    They discuss work and life commitments have been getting in the way of their Diplomacy interests (5 mins 20 secs)


    Kaner vs Brother Bored live game: France vs Austria
    Amby sets the scene in the Kaner vs Brother Bored game of France vs Austria. Brother Bored also has the game on his Youtube channel (6 mins 30 secs)

    They discuss the Spring 1901 openings (8 mins 15 secs)





     


    Amby goes through the Fall 1901 orders (11 mins)





    Brother Bored gives a fun fact about Trieste (11 mins 30 secs)

    Next up is the builds (12 mins 15 secs)

    Spring 1902 moves are then discussed (14 mins 30 secs)





    Brother Bored explains some of his thinking as they enter Fall 1902 moves (16 mins 20 secs)





    After builds they start on their spring 1903 moves (18 mins 20 secs)





    After reviewing spring 1903 moves they move on. Amby gives his thoughts on the likely outcome (21 mins 20 secs)





    They discuss the fall 1903 outcome. Brother Bored gives his views on Kaner's moves. The guys then do builds and prepare their spring 1904 moves (25 mins 30 secs)





    The orders are in for spring 1904. The guys dissect it all before clicking away for fall 1904 moves (31 mins 30 secs)





    The fall outcome is in! After builds and discussion they start preparing for spring 1905 (36 mins 15 secs)





    Spring 1905 blossoms throughout Brother Bored's side of the board with all those vacant neutrals. They dissect where the game is at and start clicking away for fall 1905's moves. Brother Bored gives some perspectives on playing as Austria compared to France (42 mins 30 secs)





    The game is done with Brother Bored proudly at the winner's podium! They discuss creating content in this format. They talk about doing this again in the future and decide on the highly balanced 843: Treaty of Verdun variant (48 mins)

    Kaner and Amby are back and discuss their thoughts on the game with Brother Bored. Don't forget you can also watch this in Brother Bored's Youtube channel (56 mins 40 secs)

    After discussing Treaty of Verdun again, they discuss deliberately balanced variants and find their not as balanced as you think (1 hr 2 min 45 secs)


    Media Wars 2
    Kaner asks Amby how his Media Wars 2 game is going. The game is up to spring 1908 with only England (Floridaman) eliminated (1 hr 5 mins 30 secs)

    Amby gives an update on what's been happening with hat tips to Oliver Lugg and Ed Sullivan (GoHornsGo)  (1 hr 6 mins 50 secs)





    Venues: Empire Hotel, Brisbane


    Drinks of choice:


    Kaner: Mahogany American Brown Ale by Brendale Brewing Company


    Amby: High Country Hops Hazy Harvest Fresh Hop IPA


     


    Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!


    Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.


    Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.


     


    The guys start wrapping up the show with a bit of a tease about the next episode (1 hr 15 mins)

    • 1 hr 14 min
    Coming off a small break

    Coming off a small break

    The guys have had a small break and come back re-energised for the game. They discuss an upcoming face to face game, Media Wars 2 and test unbreakable alliances.


    Intro and Diplomacy news
    The guys discuss the venue and throwing stones (0 mins 10 secs)

    They discuss they're out of lockdown and Kaner explains how he'd taken a break from the game for a little while. He talks about his decision making process for choosing a game to join (2 mins 50 secs)

    Amby's had a lot going on in real life too and has reduced the number of his games (4 mins 55 secs)

    Amby discusses the volume of Diplomacy content coming from the DBN and Legendary Tactics (7 mins)

    Kaner asks what is Amby's worst country to play (7 mins 55 secs)

    Amby discusses some of the recent Diplomacy Briefing releases (11 mins 20 secs)

    The guys discuss the u/trampolinebears Diplomacy map and what Kaner did to create his board, as asked by Dan Bahler (12 mins)

    They've also got an email from Daniel McNamara about playing a face to face game in Brisbane. The guys land on Saturday 29 May as a tentative date (15 mins 50 secs)

    Amby discusses getting the timing right to also get a game happening at one of the local university's board games club (19 mins)

    The guys give a shout out to the Minnesota Diplomacy Club for their recent COVID safe face to face game (20 mins 40 secs)

    Kaner and Amby move downstairs to the La Costa bar. ** Audio quality warning ** We have no idea what happened but this part of the show sounds like it was recorded inside a tin can. Sorry folks! (21 mins 40 secs)

    They discuss their drinks (22 mins 20 secs)


    Around the grounds
    While Kaner isn't in any games, Amby gives an update on his online Diplomacy games (23 mins 15 secs)

    Amby's Europa Renovatio team game has ended in a draw, despite Amby feeling the game should've played out a lot longer. They talk about proposed future team games, before Amby outlines his team members: Naples, Livonian Order and Morocco (Amby was Austria) (23 mins 45 secs)

    He's also in an anonymous gunboat Divided States game and is doing reasonable at the moment (31 mins 45 secs)

    Kaner asks about how Amby is going in the Media Wars 2 game. Amby gives an update and his thinking on recent moves (33 mins 45 secs)


    Podcast survey
    Amby flags they're going to be running a survey soon to help improve the podcast. Hopefully this will be ready by the next episode (41 mins 30 secs)


    Unbreakable alliances: the German-Austrian Anschluss
    The guys set the scene about their original moves in 1901 and where they were up to (44 mins 15 secs)

    They discuss what Kaner should be building (47 mins)

    The guys get peckish and order some chips (fries) that creates all sorts of confusion in the kitchen... you'll understand why soon (51 mins 20 secs)

    They start their planning for spring 1902's moves (52 mins)

    Then there's more confusion with the orders not being processed (56 mins 15 secs)

    They try another game where their alliance is France-Germany and start planning a Sealion (1 hr 0 mins)

    Their spring 1901 game orders went through only for Amby to misorder. They decide to cancel the game  (1 hr 2 mins 45 secs)

    So NEXT, they start an unbreakable alliance as Italy and Turkey (1 hr 4 mins)

    They plan Fall 1901's moves and discuss getting an AI update from the folks at webDip. BUT they can't adjudicate orders again. They check the forums and find out its broken at webDip (1 hr 7 mins 30 secs)

    The guys wrap up the show (1 hr 10 mins)


    Venues: Cielo Rooftop bar and La Costa bar, Brisbane


    Drinks of choice:


    Kaner: Young Henry's Pale Ale


    Amby: Alpha Box and Dice grenache from South Australia


     


     Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast epis

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Podcast scheduling update

    Podcast scheduling update

    No show due to real life stuff. Back in two weeks.

    • 1 min
    Face to Face is back! Interview with Jamal Blakkarly winner of PoppyCon 2021

    Face to Face is back! Interview with Jamal Blakkarly winner of PoppyCon 2021

    The guys interview Jamal Blakkarly, winner of PoppyCon 2021, the first face to face Diplomacy tournament since Covid (excluding that 7 player European championship.) Plus they chat about Media Wars 2 and much, much more.


    Lockdown intro and Diplomacy news
    The guys set the scene about the most recent lockdown in Brisbane and their drinks  (0 mins 10 secs)

    They're going to do their first live interview on the show. They set the scenes for the interview (4 mins 20 secs)

    Amby discusses briefly the guys' France v Austria 1 on 1 game on their Patreon feed and give a shout out to our latest Patreon supporter (7 mins)

    Amby flags that their $3 Patreon supporter level which used to get you a position in Kaner's presidential cabinet if he won (9 mins 15 secs)

    He goes onto discuss how Brisbane now has the sole negotiating rights with the International Olympics Committee for the 2032 summer olympics. Amby proposes that we need to get Diplomacy as an offcicial olympic sport and set up a lobbying campaign (10 mins 30 secs)

    Kaner outlines his decision to take a break from playing games at the moment (16 mins 40 secs)


    Interview with Jamal Blakkarly
    Kaner & Amby bring Jamal into the interview. He quickly grabs a beverage (20 mins 30 secs)

    The guys congratulate Jamal on his win, beating Shane Cubis by one-eighth of an SC. Kaner asks which was the best game/country he played (23 mins 45 secs)

    Amby asks Jamal what it was like to be at last playing face-to-face tournaments since Covid (23 mins 45 secs)

    They talk about the vibe of the tournament and the players. Kaner asks about how aware Jamal was about the points (28 mins)

    Jamal discuses the mistakes he learnt in the tournament (31 mins 30 secs)

    Amby asks if Jamal's brother Jarni played (34 mins 50 secs)

    They discuss Jamal's game style and how its developed over time (36 mins 20 secs)

    They talk stabbing (39 mins)

    Amby asks about the social aspect of the tournament outside the games (46 mins 45 secs)

    He asks about what interaction he had with Shane as they headed toward the end of the tournament (49 mins 45 secs)

    Kaner asks if Jamal has a favorite country to play (51 mins 30 secs)

    Amby does a couple of shout outs for the other main tournament players (54 mins 40 secs)

    They start wrapping up the interview (57 mins)

    Post interview Kaner discusses how he sucks as England (58 mins)


    Media Wars 2
    Amby announces the Media Wars 2 game (a game of Diplomacy content creators) has now started. He gives an outline of the players and the moves at the end of 1901 (59 mins)

    Kaner asks Amby why he thinks Austria tried moving into Venice (1 hr 6 mins 20 secs)

    Amby reflects on the number of units in fall 1901 that just held (1 hr 10 mins 50 secs)

    Amby mentions his plans for why he moved to Tyrolia will be discussed in the Patreon episode before they wrap up (1 hr 15 mins 45 secs)


     


    Venues: Locked down at home, Brisbane


    Drinks of choice:


    Kaner: Somersby cloudy apple cider


    Amby: Wynns Coonwarra estate cabinet shiraz merlot


     


    Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!


    Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.


    Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

    • 1 hr 15 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
6 Ratings

6 Ratings

Hal - NYC ,

Diplomatic Review

Thank you for creating a podcast for the game Diplomacy! Good interviews, information just wish the sound quality was a bit better.

Chave 22 ,

Best Diplomacy Podcast, Hands Down

Listen in while Amby and Kaner get progressively more inebriated and talk diplomacy. Their games are entertaining, the interviews are interesting, and the drink discussion is always on point.

My only qualm is the background noise can make voices difficult to distinguish. The efforts to keep the ambient volume low are appreciated.

Eagerly anticipating the next installment, keep up the good work! Regarding the episode notes - cjuric is spelled without a "k". Shout out is wonderful nonetheless.

Best of luck with the backstabbing!

-cjuric

A wandering moose ,

Fills the Web & Variant-oriented Diplomacy Niche

The Diplomacy hobby has a few different fan-supported publications that make the rounds: "The Diplomatic Pouch" and "Diplomacy World" are two examples in the online newsletter space, and Chris Martin's Youtube channel covers a good chunk of the face-to-face happenings in the hobby.
What's not quite as well-covered, and what Kaner & Amby provide here, is a window into Diplomacy as it is most frequently played, via web-based interfaces. Though their expertise is primarily from webDiplomacy and vDiplomacy, they've been branching out to other sites as well like PlayDiplomacy.
Where I find the most benefit from "Diplomacy Games" is the focus on variants. Many Diplomacy players (like the aforementioned Chris Martin) are purists; they only really like the original game, and they don't spend a lot of time with variants.
However, there are quite a few of us that see Diplomacy as a sort of family of rules (or platform) with which you can play multiple scenarios. For us, we're always looking for new variants with interesting rules and subject matters. Kaner & Amby cover those in decent detail, and it's fun to hear the gears turning as they discuss a new and interesting map or ruleset.
I have a couple criticisms of the cast, but nothing serious.
1) It's can be a little disorganized.
- Though Amby & Kaner always have a rough outline of what they want to discuss in an episode, the coverage can be a bit more stream-of-consciousness than I care for.
- However, the Full Description of each episode gives useful timestamps on a topic-by-topic breakdown, so it's easy to skip long sections for topics less to my interest.
2) The background noise can be distracting.
- They record their shows inside their favorite Australian bars, so you'll get periodic crowd noise and road noise.
- It definitely gives the cast a bit of charm, so it's not a huge negative.

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