31 min

Don’t Get Your Agile Shorts in a Knot Agile Coaches' Corner

    • Business

Oftentimes, those who practice agility will turn their nose up at teams or companies that are not doing agile perfectly. And though the agile practices are important and are great pathways to success, many teams and companies often find ways that work for them that are not perfect agile. In this conversation, Dan and Sam highlight some of the ways in which companies and teams find what works for them, why perfect practicing agility isn’t the end-all-be-all, share the key characteristics for succeeding in agile, and, most importantly: why you shouldn’t be getting your agile shorts in a knot!
 
Key Takeaways
Should a team or company be doing agility perfectly?
If a team finds a helpful practice for them, then that’s what they should do 
“That’s not agile,” or “That’s not the way story points work,” is not very helpful to somebody
It’s important to remember that everyone is on their own agile journey and you shouldn’t judge where they are right now in it
An agility mindset is what really matters; they will improve their practice over time
As long as it works for them, they’re delivering, and their customers are happy then they’re good
Just because a team isn’t doing something by the book doesn’t mean they are wrong in doing it
Advice in entering a new role within a company that’s getting started with agility:
Enter the company/role with curiosity
Just because the role states you will be doing certain things doesn’t mean you will always be doing those things/won’t be doing other things
Start with what the company already knows/is doing; you can adapt as you go along
If you’re interviewing for a position of any kind, it’s not just about, “Do they want you?” but, “Do you want them?”
When selecting a company you want to work for it is important to make sure that they breed a culture of innovation (regardless of where they are in their agile journey) and have a culture of constantly wanting to inspect, adapt, and innovate
Strategies for failure in agility:
There are degrees of planning that can be unhelpful when trying to forecast things out — but zero planning is also a strategy for failure
There is this idea that agility is a binary state (I.e. “You either are or you are not agile”) — agility is more of a continuum (it never truly ends)
Key characteristics for succeeding in agile:
Curiosity is a key characteristic of anybody who wants to succeed in agile
Low tolerance for impedance and that we cannot change things; we have to do it this way
Question how things could be done/how things could be done differently
Asking: “What would happen if ______?”
Having an experimental mindset
Don’t make assumptions about what you think are bad practices/what isn’t agile — you could learn a lot from these experiences
 
Mentioned in this Episode:
AgileThought.com/Events — Visit for AgileThought’s upcoming virtual events & RSVP!
Agile Coaches Corner Ep. 116: “Modern Management Made Easy with Johanna Rothman”
Jira
Ralph Stacey Chart
Wikispeed.org
Discover to Deliver: Agile Product Planning and Analysis, by Ellen Gottesdiener and Mary Gorman
Johanna Rothman’s Modern Management Made Easy Book Series
 
Want to Learn More or Get in Touch?
Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com!
Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

Oftentimes, those who practice agility will turn their nose up at teams or companies that are not doing agile perfectly. And though the agile practices are important and are great pathways to success, many teams and companies often find ways that work for them that are not perfect agile. In this conversation, Dan and Sam highlight some of the ways in which companies and teams find what works for them, why perfect practicing agility isn’t the end-all-be-all, share the key characteristics for succeeding in agile, and, most importantly: why you shouldn’t be getting your agile shorts in a knot!
 
Key Takeaways
Should a team or company be doing agility perfectly?
If a team finds a helpful practice for them, then that’s what they should do 
“That’s not agile,” or “That’s not the way story points work,” is not very helpful to somebody
It’s important to remember that everyone is on their own agile journey and you shouldn’t judge where they are right now in it
An agility mindset is what really matters; they will improve their practice over time
As long as it works for them, they’re delivering, and their customers are happy then they’re good
Just because a team isn’t doing something by the book doesn’t mean they are wrong in doing it
Advice in entering a new role within a company that’s getting started with agility:
Enter the company/role with curiosity
Just because the role states you will be doing certain things doesn’t mean you will always be doing those things/won’t be doing other things
Start with what the company already knows/is doing; you can adapt as you go along
If you’re interviewing for a position of any kind, it’s not just about, “Do they want you?” but, “Do you want them?”
When selecting a company you want to work for it is important to make sure that they breed a culture of innovation (regardless of where they are in their agile journey) and have a culture of constantly wanting to inspect, adapt, and innovate
Strategies for failure in agility:
There are degrees of planning that can be unhelpful when trying to forecast things out — but zero planning is also a strategy for failure
There is this idea that agility is a binary state (I.e. “You either are or you are not agile”) — agility is more of a continuum (it never truly ends)
Key characteristics for succeeding in agile:
Curiosity is a key characteristic of anybody who wants to succeed in agile
Low tolerance for impedance and that we cannot change things; we have to do it this way
Question how things could be done/how things could be done differently
Asking: “What would happen if ______?”
Having an experimental mindset
Don’t make assumptions about what you think are bad practices/what isn’t agile — you could learn a lot from these experiences
 
Mentioned in this Episode:
AgileThought.com/Events — Visit for AgileThought’s upcoming virtual events & RSVP!
Agile Coaches Corner Ep. 116: “Modern Management Made Easy with Johanna Rothman”
Jira
Ralph Stacey Chart
Wikispeed.org
Discover to Deliver: Agile Product Planning and Analysis, by Ellen Gottesdiener and Mary Gorman
Johanna Rothman’s Modern Management Made Easy Book Series
 
Want to Learn More or Get in Touch?
Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com!
Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

31 min

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