Ep. 74 | Fear, Trauma, Cultural Appropriation, Mindfulness Club Call and Response with Krishna Das

Call and Response Ep. 74 | Fear, Trauma, Cultural Appropriation, Mindfulness Club



“We’re seeing the movie that we are projecting from within. So, we get to see what we have to work with a little bit. And little by little, that movie can be transformed into a screwball comedy from the 30’s. Carole Lombard? Nobody knows who she is. But we can, that movie can change. We can’t change the movie because we are the movie. But the movie can change through our aspiration to be free and the things that we do to help ourselves, to free ourselves from those negative emotions and aspects of our own personality.” – Krishna Das

Yes, the alien.  What can I do for you?

Q: Yes, I’m the alien.

KD: Do I speak your language?

Q: Yeah. So, thank you so much for today. I just wanted to share…

KD: Is it over? I don’t think it’s over.

Q: No, no for being here and serving us.

KD: Oh, I’m here.  Thank you.

Q: You talked about serving and it made me think of a story I wanted to just quick-share, really short, because I know you don’t want people to talk for a long time.

KD: Which planet is the story from?

Q: Let’s see, Lehra. I was five and an intruder came into our house and I was upstairs with my knees shaking and this man was chasing my mom around the table and he was going to hurt her and she just laid down on the floor and went to go on top of her and he had a knife and everything and she said, she said an angel came to her, whatever, an inspiration and she just looked him in the eyes and said, “What do you want from me? I am your brother.” You know, you were talking about the oneness and we’re all the same blood and connected and he just looked at her and he’s like, “I’ll leave you alone now, ma’am.” And he got up and he walked out and that was sort of a miracle or something.

KD: Yeah, wow.

Q: And I remember then the police came and we were all happy and relieved, the kids in the house, because the authorities were here and I said to my mom, “I hate that man. I want him to die. I want to kill him, mommy.” And she said, “No darling, don’t hate him. He needs love. He’s sick and that’s why he was doing what he did.” And it just struck me, this memory came flooding back just today when you said, “Be of service” and that stayed with me my whole life, to see the soul of everyone. You know? Underneath their pain, underneath their stories and their suffering and their violence.

KD: Yeah.

Q: I just really wanted to share it. That’s it.

KD: Thank you. Because we are so hurt, we don’t let ourselves see the pain of other people too much. And we take everything personally. Whatever programs we have running, I have a friend who’s program is humiliation and he’s always being humiliated by things that happen. Even when they truly didn’t happen to humiliate him the way experiences it as if this person or this situation is humiliating him directly, you know? Or other people are hurt by other people, like that. It’s our programs, you know? And to unravel that program is very difficult. Very very difficult. Very difficult. But you have to start somewhere. Wherever you are, start. And things will, little by little, fall into place if one wants to be free, one can free one’s self. With a lot of help. A lot of help. Yeah.

 

Q: Hello.

KD: Where are you?

Q: Right to your left.

KD: Hi.

Q: Hi. Long time meditator and I recently have found you and chanting.

KD: I’m sorry about that.

Q: I’m very grateful for it.

KD: Ok.

Q: Over thirty years, I studied under Doctor Jon Cabot Zinn.

KD: I know Jon.

Q: And what, and to this day, I do it. And I’ve added the chanting to it and what I’ve learned throughout the years is how judgmental we automatically are as human beings, which arises a lot of stresses in people.

KD: Yeah.

Q: And one of the methods that Dr.