Face in Hat

Aaron Brewster & Eric Jepson

LDS Miscellany through a Berkeley Lens

  1. OCT 18

    7.8 Interregnum hot takes

    With the rest of the church we mourn the passing of President Nelson.  In this show we look back on his life and we talk about the future, including chatting about President Oak’s October 2025 conference talk.  The decision to focus on birthrates was interesting, so that prompted a deep dive, from Saturday’s Warrior to South Korea.  Would love to hear your own takes! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ President Russel M. Nelson wiki https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_M._Nelson President Russell M. Nelson on the Healing Power of Gratitude​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i51gcWCs-Ho An Interview With Gordon Hinckley by Mike Wallace https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/ President Dallin H. Oaks wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallin_H._Oaks Carthage Conspiracy,  by Dallin H. Oaks and Marvin S. Hill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage_Conspiracy Legal Eagle https://www.youtube.com/legaleagle Truth & Treason (2025 movie) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_%26_Treason The Family-Centered Gospel of Jesus Christ, by President Dallin H. Oaks, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/10/58oaks The End of Children, by Gideon Lewis-Kraus https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/03/03/the-population-implosion Sex Without Women, What happens when men prefer porn?  By Caitlin Flanagan https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/sex-without-women/682064/?gift=7Dmgya6WfQQSjX_hzD7e6JS-14VnM4BwMPCcn3UgkUM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share What Women Wish They’d Known Before Trying to Get Pregnant. Many Americans lack basic fertility knowledge. More robust sex ed could help.  By Olga Khazan https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/09/sex-ed-school-fertility/684079/?gift=7Dmgya6WfQQSjX_hzD7e6N-IKckFrqX-zdDLAPsolPM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share Zero Population https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZHlEYgiM08 Saturday's Warrior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday%27s_Warrior The Population Bomb,  by Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb 2.1 Millennial musings: this is our early take on overpopulation, and cites the first Kurzgesagt video https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/21-millennial-musings/ Overpopulation – The Human Explosion Explained, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348 Why Humans Are Vanishing, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBudghsdByQ SOUTH KOREA IS OVER, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

    52 min
  2. OCT 2

    7.7 Modernity vs. retrenchment

    We’re back from summer and let's keep this season going!  Today we focus on Chapter 6, The Perils of Reform: 1920-1945, from Benjamin Park’s book: American Zion.  Many threads connect the topics, but the contest between the modernity of the early part of the 20th century and resistance to change mark the struggle for the LDS church at this time.  Join us! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Amy B. Lyman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_B._Lyman D&C 29:34,”Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given unto you a law which was temporal” https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/29#34 J. Reuben Clark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark Our David O’McKay season was actually season 3!  Here’s an example episode, with topics on politics and such.  3.4 David O. McKay and the confrontation with communism https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/34-david-o-mckay-and-the-confrontation-with-communism/ John Birch Society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society No wiki on Nephi Johnson, but lots of articles out there on him :) Juanita Brooks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Brooks The Mountain Meadows Massacre (book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Meadows_Massacre_(book) 3.13 Close to home: the Church Building Program https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/313-close-to-home-the-church-building-program/ 3.11 Poetry, Spies, and the Church Education System https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/311-poetry-spies-and-the-church-education-system/ B. H. Roberts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._H._Roberts Studies of the Book of Mormon, by B. H. Roberts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_of_the_Book_of_Mormon “Now, if you mean it-I am not going to give any command, but I will ask it as a personal, individual favor to me, to let coca-cola alone. There are plenty of other things you can get at the soda fountains without drinking that which is injurious. The Lord does not want you to use any drug that creates an appetite for itself.” -Heber J Grant, April 1921 https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8061 Heber J Grant: stories of baseball and penmanship are here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heber_J._Grant Welfare and Self Reliance https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/topic/welfare-and-self-reliance Fawn M. Brodie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn_M._Brodie 3.7 Tolerance: this might be the episode where we talked about David O’Mckay and Fawn Brodie https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/37-tolerance/ “$32 million deficit in 1962” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints Saints, Volume 3, Boldly, Nobly, and Independent, 1893–1955 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v3 The Mormon Typology: Mapping a Changing Faith https://mormonmetrics.substack.com/p/the-mormon-typology-mapping-a-changing Another Data Source Confirms Typology Findings https://mormonmetrics.substack.com/p/multiple-data-sources-confirm-typology Thubrina, by Theric Jepson https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/thubrina/f0c86c78-3b42-35b0-afdf-40d6b81d25db.html

    1 hr
  3. MAY 18

    7.6 Progress and compromise

    1890-1920 was a period of great progress among the LDS Saints but came with key compromises that began the assimilation of LDS culture and into the broader American people.   Join us as we look at this era, continuing our trip through American Zion by Benjamin Park!   Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Letter to the Editor: Reconciliation and Truth, by Robert A. Rees https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/letter-to-the-editor-reconciliation-and-truth/ Jesus the Christ, by James E. Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_the_Christ_(book) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/jesus-the-christ?lang=eng Articles of Faith, by James E. Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Faith_(Talmage_book) The Great Apostasy, by James E. Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Apostasy_(book) The House of the Lord, by James E. Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_the_Lord Ten Thousand, xkcd http://xkcd.com/1053/ Jane Manning James (wiki article) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Manning_James Jane Elizabeth Manning James (LDS article) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/jane-elizabeth-manning-james Jane and Emma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_and_Emma They stole Yogi Berra’s World Series rings. Then they did something really crazy, by Ariel Sabar https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/sports-memorabilia-heist-yogi-berra-world-series-rings/681093/ On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century, by Timothy Snyder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny Ephesians 2:19 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/eph/2?lang=eng&id=p19#p19 Seer stone (Latter Day Saints) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seer_stone_(Latter_Day_Saints) D&C 138 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/138 The Truth of a Dream: A Conversation with Theric Jepson, on the Dialogue Out Loud podcast https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/the-truth-of-a-dream-a-conversation-with-theric-jepson/ I Dreamed of Oil, by Theric Jepson https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/i-dreamed-of-oil/

    1h 10m
  4. FEB 21

    7.4 The Big 3 in 1850

    Polygamy, Racism and Indian affairs.  These stories dominated Chapter 3 of American Zion by Benjamin E. Park, “Of empires and wars, 1846-69”.  Come for the historical controversy but stay for the good vibes at the end! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Pioneer Children sang as they walk, words and music by: Elizabeth Fetzer Bates https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/pioneer-children-sang-as-they-walked Legacy (1993) https://youtu.be/TZALT-fK9Ao?si=vN-6uAZMRRW485dD Walker Lewis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Lewis Chief Walkara https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkara The Angel (2024), directed by Barrett Burgin, Jess Burgin https://letterboxd.com/film/the-angel-2024/ Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/ Commentary: New LDS curriculum flops in teaching eternal polygamy to children, by Carol Lynn Pearson https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/13/new-lds-curriculum-flops-teaching/ Emmeline B. Wells https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells (Aaron) Note the comment on Emmeline changing her mind was actually in relation to Emily Dow Partridge (note the redirects if you click on this link) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily%20Dow%20Partridge?redirect=no Phoebe Pendleton Woodbury: not a lot of her online. Dr. Park is citing letters to her children Into the Headwinds: Why Belief Has Always Been Hard―and Still Is, by Terryl Givens and Nathaniel Givens https://a.co/d/59qRjS1 (Aaron) Couldn’t find the tiger roar/rattlesnake article :) You are Two, by CGP Grey https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8?si=Z1qkIrKNMLMJL3K_ Episode 5.4 Agency and its opposition https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/54-agency-and-its-opposition/ Moroni: a brief theological introduction (The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions 12), by David F Holland https://a.co/d/7lkNflh After transcribing 1.2 million of his words, this researcher has something to say about Brigham Young, by Jacob Hess, about LaJean Purcell Carruth https://www.deseret.com/faith/2024/10/10/new-discoveries-about-brigham-young/ Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-brigham-young Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show) https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

    1h 9m
  5. 12/23/2024

    7.3 Zion (not the Matrix one), Part 2

    “O My Father”, and the Council of Fifty! Let’s wrap up chapter 2 of “American Zion” in a quick show for the end of the year! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Eliza R. Snow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_R._Snow “Invocation, or The Eternal Father and Mother” or “O my father” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_My_Father Testimony in Art: John Hafen's Illustrations for “O My Father”, by Dawn Pheysey https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/byusq/vol36/iss1/5/ John Hafen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hafen A Little Lower than the Angels, by Virginia Sorensen https://www.amazon.com/Little-Angels-Signature-Morman-Classics/dp/1560851031 Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/ Hosea Stout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosea_Stout Council of Fifty, Church History topic https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/council-of-fifty Council of Fifty on wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Fifty Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show) https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

    31 min
  6. 12/07/2024

    7.2 Zion (not the Matrix one), Part 1

    Part one of our journey through Chapter 2 of Dr. Benjamin Park’s book, “American Zion”, “The Voice of the People,1831-46.”  This history is a rollercoaster of emotion! Also, we have just so many show notes. Check them out and be sure to join us on Discord! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Not a lot about Laura Hubble out there, but this Historical Introduction to D&C 43 seems relevant: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/church-historians-press/jsp-revelations/dc-043-1831_02_01_000 Peter Kerr (Black Pete) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kerr_(priest) Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/ Carol Lynn Pearson, Radiant Mormonism Award, recorded by Paris Fox https://vimeo.com/1018163129 Saints Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1 Century of Black Mormons https://exhibits.lib.utah.edu/s/century-of-black-mormons/page/welcome Missouri Executive Order 44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44 Related to the ‘am I better for suffering’ section of the pod: Opinion | A man at work, A half century of George Will https://wapo.st/4g7HdgJ Quote: “In “The Roosevelts,” George, the conservative thinker, found empathy at the core of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal. “Polio gave FDR the gift of empathy.  There was no suffering that he could not in some sense relate to,” George explained. “Just as the irons were clapped on his legs, the steel entered his soul by having to fight through the constant pain of therapy that was unforgiving in its demands and not very fulfilling in its success.”” Episode 1.2 Theodicy and the Red Ball https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-2-theodicy-and-the-red-ball/ Not sure about the last Shaker Eric mentioned, but this is probably relevant: There Are Only Two Shakers Left. They’ve Still Got Utopia in Their Sights, by Jordan Kisner https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/magazine/shakers-utopia.html James 1: 5-6 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%201%3A5-6&version=KJV Tumult of opinions quote is from Joseph Smith - History: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1#p10 Oakland Stake First Vision Lecture Series - Eric Jepson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSicnZ3B3k Wiki on Limbo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo (Really enjoyed finding this -Aaron) Comparison of the texts of Doctrine and Covenants 76 and Joseph Smith’s poetic rendition of The Vision, Courtesy of Dr. Lawrence Flake from his book “Three Degrees of Glory” https://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~clement/rel325/vision-poem.pdf The Drowned World, by J. G. Ballard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drowned_World Revised Plat of the City of Zion, circa Early August 1833 https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revised-plat-of-the-city-of-zion-circa-early-august-1833/1 The Maine story might have been Vermont, see Building Zion: the controversial plan for a Mormon-inspired city in Vermont, by Claire Provost https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jan/31/building-zion-controversial-plan-mormon-inspired-city-vermont Defunctland: Walt Disney's City of the Future, E.P.C.O.T. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKYEXjMlKKQ Wiki on the Book of Commands mentions the teenage sisters Caroline and Mary Elizabeth Rollins who saved the “remnants of nearly 100 copies” from an anti-Mormon fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Commandments Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show) https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

    1h 9m
  7. 10/30/2024

    7.1 A Visionary Nation

    Welcome to season 7!  We are starting by reviewing the Prologue and Chapter 1 of Dr. Benjamin Park’s book, “American Zion”.  The first single volume history of the Church in over a decade, and taking advantage of new sources, it’s an excellent way to get some good old Mormon history.  This was fun! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Parks and Recollection, with Jim O’Heir and Greg Levine https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection Saints, Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1 History of Joseph Smith by His Mother, by Lucy Mack Smith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Joseph_Smith_by_His_Mother Thomas B. Griffith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_B._Griffith The Book of Mormon (musical) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mormon_(musical) Alexander Campbell (minister) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Campbell_(minister) Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/ James 1:5 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/james/1#p5 Burned-over district https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned-over_district The Glass Looker: The Collected Tales of Joseph Smith, by Mark Elwood https://theglasslooker.com/ Hero's journey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey An Interview With Gordon Hinckley, by Mike Wallace (this includes the boat and garments story) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/ William Apess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Apess

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