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a podcast for storytellers. a new episode every monday.

2 brown sheeps is a weekly podcast starring Saps and Tazo, 2 misfit-soulsisters.

Our story:


We met in the stairwell at the University of Virginia's drama building in the fall of 2004 after a directing class led by grumpy man named Bob.

From the hello, we both knew we wanted to make art but we were too chicken to admit it as more than a hobby.

Throughout the next 10 years, made in Kathmandu, Dhaka, London, Paris, Delhi, Quito, Prague, Berkeley and San Francisco, our memories would come to include: climbing through windows; beating up men larger than ourselves—and winning; countless serious loves now forgotten, and the recurring, restless dream to tell a story.

Finally, in March 2017, in a spirit of angst through a voice dripping of desire, we agreed to create 2 brown sheeps, a podcast on the crust, but inside, a gooey, fruity filling of honest conversation and the occasional chunky conflict of misfits.

We didn’t feel like the other sheep, that wanted us black or white, and so we left as proud brown and chose to be sheeps in an act of rebellion. It might not be grammatically or even politically correct, but it’s who we believe we are and it acts right to us.

Join us as we commune between and among different worlds!

Follow us here and also on:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2brown_sheeps/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/2brownsheeps


Some of our FAQs:
“Why are you called ‘2brownsheepS’ and not ‘2brownsheep’? You do know that sheepS is incorrect, right?”
Yes, we know. But we have chosen intentionally to call ourselves sheepS because we stand in our respective individualities.
“Why are you called ‘brown’ sheeps? Isn’t the expression ‘black’ sheep?”
-as misfits, we connect with the expression of being a ‘black sheep’ but wanted something that reflected us specifically.
-the color brown is what you get if you make a mess of all the colors by mixing them up. As mixes of many places, people and stories being 'brown' in that sense resonates with the both of us.
-and of course, we have a brown coat.

(Credit for intro/outro/transition music for episodes 1-5 goes to RM Jackson and Rod Weinstein from SESAC)

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a podcast for storytellers. a new episode every monday.

2 brown sheeps is a weekly podcast starring Saps and Tazo, 2 misfit-soulsisters.

Our story:


We met in the stairwell at the University of Virginia's drama building in the fall of 2004 after a directing class led by grumpy man named Bob.

From the hello, we both knew we wanted to make art but we were too chicken to admit it as more than a hobby.

Throughout the next 10 years, made in Kathmandu, Dhaka, London, Paris, Delhi, Quito, Prague, Berkeley and San Francisco, our memories would come to include: climbing through windows; beating up men larger than ourselves—and winning; countless serious loves now forgotten, and the recurring, restless dream to tell a story.

Finally, in March 2017, in a spirit of angst through a voice dripping of desire, we agreed to create 2 brown sheeps, a podcast on the crust, but inside, a gooey, fruity filling of honest conversation and the occasional chunky conflict of misfits.

We didn’t feel like the other sheep, that wanted us black or white, and so we left as proud brown and chose to be sheeps in an act of rebellion. It might not be grammatically or even politically correct, but it’s who we believe we are and it acts right to us.

Join us as we commune between and among different worlds!

Follow us here and also on:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2brown_sheeps/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/2brownsheeps


Some of our FAQs:
“Why are you called ‘2brownsheepS’ and not ‘2brownsheep’? You do know that sheepS is incorrect, right?”
Yes, we know. But we have chosen intentionally to call ourselves sheepS because we stand in our respective individualities.
“Why are you called ‘brown’ sheeps? Isn’t the expression ‘black’ sheep?”
-as misfits, we connect with the expression of being a ‘black sheep’ but wanted something that reflected us specifically.
-the color brown is what you get if you make a mess of all the colors by mixing them up. As mixes of many places, people and stories being 'brown' in that sense resonates with the both of us.
-and of course, we have a brown coat.

(Credit for intro/outro/transition music for episodes 1-5 goes to RM Jackson and Rod Weinstein from SESAC)

    episode 19: Skin Heads, Whitney Houston and Thriving in Racist Russia feat. Julie Owono

    episode 19: Skin Heads, Whitney Houston and Thriving in Racist Russia feat. Julie Owono

    Pojalosta! In this episode, I speak to one of my dearest friends, Julie Owono, about the time she spent in Russia, in Moscow, where we both became friends in a tiny French school. It was a time like no other, where our parents worried about skinheads roaming the streets and us being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Julie's fascinating account of the relationship between Russia and the African continent; about our absurd encounter with a bashful skinhead and how it has shaped racism for us is not to be missed.

    Julie Owono is a lawyer and the Executive Director of Internet Without Borders where she focuses on Rights and Freedoms in the digital space, and develops the organization globally. She regularly writes columns for various publications, including Al Jazeera English and Quartz, on issues related to politics, law and innovation in the Gulf of Guinea. She often appears as a Gulf of Guinea expert on International TV channels (France 24 English, BBC World, Russia Today, Huff Post Live, etc.)

    • 25 min
    episode 18 - Stories of UVA, Charlottesville, Racism and Love

    episode 18 - Stories of UVA, Charlottesville, Racism and Love

    UVA is the place that brought us together, and that made up some of the best years of our lives. That is not to say that racism, hate, segregation did not exist. They did. But so did friendship, discovery and dreams. Tune in to hear some of our stories of UVA, and if you would like to, share yours with us.

    • 22 min
    Charlottesville and UVA Reflections

    Charlottesville and UVA Reflections

    It's been difficult to see the place that has brought us so many beautiful memories, and taught us so much, be overrun with hatred and racism. This is what happened this weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia at UVA. But telling our stories and sharing our values is one way to reclaim that space. So this week, we have got 2 beautiful accounts from friends from UVA. Thank you dear Elio and Carolyn for sharing your stories with us.

    • 3 min
    episode 17 - beauty, style and confidence when you're a brown girl with hair!

    episode 17 - beauty, style and confidence when you're a brown girl with hair!

    In this episode, Tazo and I talk about the sometimes funny, sometimes painful journey of defining beauty for ourselves and how hair, has been so central to all of it. Check it out!

    And if you want to do the 30-day dress your best challenge too, send us your pics on instagram!

    References:
    - Suraiya, also known as Twitter user @iranikanjari, posted a selfie with the caption "walmart underwear vibes" in December. This photo has surged in relevance since then because Suraiya, like many other women, has hair on her stomach.http://bit.ly/1PkFAbx
    - Fatimah Asghar is an amazing poet. "How I played football with the boys in the school park & let my moustache grow longer than anyone in my class & isn’t that a type of girlhood too?"http://www.theadroitjournal.org/issue-fourteen-fatimah-asghar/
    -Fatimah Asghar also talks about her eyebrows and how thick is back in:
    https://cupofjo.com/2017/06/beauty-uniform-fatimah-asghar/
    - Don't wait to dress your best and the 30-day confidence challenge:: https://anuschkarees.com/blog/2017/1/6/9-ways-to-boost-your-style-confidence-and-have-more-fun-with-fashion
    -The #unfairandlovely campaign: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35783348
    -Sammy Sosa and Lighter Skin: http://bit.ly/2tzc2rZ

    • 30 min
    episode 15: on international love & intercultural marriages ft. Francois Plattard (aka Saps husband)

    episode 15: on international love & intercultural marriages ft. Francois Plattard (aka Saps husband)

    Welcome to this episode dedicated to international love! Tune in as Saps' husband, Francois joins a candid conversation on the benefits and the challenges of being in an international, intercultural marriage.

    Now, it is your turn. Are you in an intercultural marriage? Does anything we say resonate with you? Tell us your story! We are dying to hear it!

    • 29 min

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