Irenicast - A Progressive Christian Podcast Rev. Bonnie Rambob, Pastor Casey Tinnin, Jeff Manildi and, Rev. Rajeev Ramb

Thanks for joining the conversation for 200 episodes of Irenicast!  In this episode the hosts answer your questions.  The topics range from the bible, hell, marriage and more.  After 7 years and 200 episodes the Irenicast team is still so thankful to helping provoke the progressive Christian imagination.  Here’s to 200 more!
 
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RELEVANT LINKS
From Our Thanks for Joining the Conversation Q&A
The Generational Divide – Special Guest Co-Host Selah Cluff – 193 Past episodes that are ‘salvation’ adjacent Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One – Waking Up – 183 Atonement Theology Revisited – What’s the Cross Got to Do with It? – 175 The Diversity of Christian Theologies – What Straight Old White Guys Don't Tell You – 136 The Evolution of Satan – Details in the Devil – 086 Why Did Jesus Die? – Standing at the Foot of Atonement Theology – 059 Heaven and Hell – Get the Hell Outta Here – 018 Haystacks Podcast (Bonnie & Rajeev’s podcast for former Adventists) Past episodes concerning the Bible Cosmology Shapes Our Theology – A Chaotic Journey – 138 The Nature of Biblical Texts – Wholly Scripture, Batman! – 004  Interpreting the Bible Part 1 – Literally Literature – 063 Interpreting the Bible Part 2 – A Scribed Meaning – 064 Interpreting the Bible Part 3 – Collecting Lenses – 065 A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America by Bruce Cannon Gibney (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)


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Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com
You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com.
 
Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com
You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org
 
Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com
Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.
 
Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com
You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.  



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One thing that tends to get left out of many conversations on deconstruction is atheism and agnosticism.  Why is this?  Even when it is brought up, it is rarely spoken of as an ending point.  Why is that?  Can our deconstruction lead us to atheism and agnosticism?  Is that ‘okay’?  Spoilers, we think it is.
In this episode the Irenicast hosts discuss the important space atheism and agnosticism hold for so many on their journeys.  Perhaps what we believe is less important than how we hold those beliefs.  Fundamentalism can rear its ugly head in any ideology, god or no god.  
And in the spirit of irony, the hosts close out the episode by sharing the Top 3 things they are against.  And in Irenicast fashion, not all of the hosts understand the assignment.
Conversation on Atheism and Agnosticism (02:12)
Top 3 Segment (41:31)



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RELEVANT LINKS
From Our Conversation on Atheism and Agnosticism
Brian McLaren & Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon – The Age of Secular Christianity – 155 (Irenicast Episode) Waking Up: A Guide to Spirituality Without Religion by Sam Harris (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Christopher Eric Hitchens (A British-American author, journalist, orator and columnist) Richard Dawkins (A British evolutionary biologist and author) Josh McDowell (An evangelical Christian apologist and evangelist) Pluralism – You Be You, Unless You’re a Hobbit – 139 (Irenicast Episode) Another Conversation with Jennifer Knapp – Theology, Music and Sous Vide – 125 (Irenicast Episode)  From Our Top 3 Segment
Tenet (2020 Film) Why Americans still avoid MSG, even though its ‘health effects’ have been debunked (article) University Of California Reaches Final Decision: No More Standardized Admission Testing


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You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.
PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).
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IRENCAST HOSTS
Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com
You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC
Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com
You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org
Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com
Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.
Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com
You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn



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War and Christianity are certainly not strangers.  In fact, they seem pretty friendly many of the times.  In this episode Bonnie, Rajeev and Jeff discuss the complicated history of war and Christianity.  A discussion that seems especially timely considering the current invasion of Ukraine.
The conversation starts by acknowledging the ample examples of divine mandated war in our religious text.  To which, the wide path of Biblical interpretations has come up with many theological ‘theories’ on war and peace.  Bonnie specifically lays out a great overview of the history of the peace movement in America from her studies to lay the foundation for the remainder of the episode.
After sharing a little about their journeys through their thoughts and beliefs about war, the discussion delves deeper into pacifism.  There soon seems to be a quick distinction between theory and reality.  Struggling with questions like:
What amount of privilege has led to your thoughts on war and peace?  What does pacifism and non-violence look like on the ground when it is no longer a thought exercise?  Are there moral absolutes when discussing war and violence?  Is there movement on the spectrum of violence and oppression and peace and pacifism?
And speaking of things that are better in theory, we introduce a new segment called Connect the Dots to close the episode. 
Conversation on War and Christianity (02:44)
Connect the Dots Segment (42:33)



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RELEVANT LINKS
From Our Conversation on War and Christianity
William Lloyd Garrison Leo Tolstoy John Howard Yoder John Howard Yoder’s Sexual Misconduct Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7 NRSV) Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Resistance and Execution Just War Theory West Nickel Mines School Shooting (Shooting in Amish Community) From Our Connect the Dots Segment
Karate Kid (1984 Film) Beverly Hills Cop (1984 Film) What is Love? – The Space Between – 191 (Listen to the segment in this episode for context on ‘Kibbles and Bits’)


SUPPORT THE SHOW
You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.
PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). 
MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.
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IRENCAST HOSTS
Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com
You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com.
Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com
You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org
Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com
Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.
Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com
You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podc

In this episode on queer legacy, Casey shares a recent revelation from a queer history class he has been taking.  He shares the history of the term two-spirit.  A term used by some to describe Indigenous North American people who fulfilled a traditional third-gender ceremonial and social role in their cultures.  As someone who is both queer and has Indigenous ancestry Casey expressed his deep sense of validation in his pastoral calling.
Casey also takes this revelation and challenges us to take a new look at calling and purpose.  This shifts the conversation into challenging the ideas we’ve been given about calling and purpose.  Is calling for the few and capable or for all?  Is it something that happens to us or something we live into?
The episode ends with a fun couple of rounds of Jesus Juke.  Listen to the end to find out just what it means to be a ‘Hot Tub Christian’.
 
Conversation on Queer Legacy (03:49)
Jesus Juke Segment (36:59)



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RELEVANT LINKS
From Our Conversation on Queer Legacy
Two-Spirit - A modern, pan-Indian, umbrella term used by some Indigenous North Americans to describe Native people in their communities who fulfill a traditional third-gender (or other gender-variant) ceremonial and social role in their cultures. LGBT history in Mexico Chickasaw (An indigenous people of the Southeastern Woodlands) Texas Governor Pushes to Investigate Medical Treatments for Trans Youth as ‘Child Abuse’ (NYT Article) Florida House passes controversial measure dubbed the 'Don't Say Gay' bill by critics (NPR Article) History of LGBTQ Rights Cases In Iowa Ted Haggard Jesus Camp (2006 Documentary) Spanish Missions in California



SUPPORT THE SHOW
You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. 
PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).
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IRENCAST HOSTS
Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com
You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com.
 
Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com
You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org
 
Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com
Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.
 
Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com
You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.  



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How do Eschatology and Process Theology fit together?  This week we try and answer that question by sitting down with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord.  Dr. Oord is an expert on Process Theology, also known as Open and Relational Theology.
Many days it feels as though the end of the world is upon us.  This is even true for people across the proverbial aisle.  Although for much different reasons.  In this conversation we explore endings through a Process Theology lens.
Will things get better?  Will there be an ultimate ending?  What is God’s role, or lack thereof, in endings?  Listen and find out what Dr. Oord and the Irencast team have to say about Eschatology and Process Theology.



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RELEVANT LINKS
From Our Conversation on Eschatology and Process Theology
Dr. Oord’s Latest Book: Pluriform Love: An Open and Relational Theology of Well-Being by Thomas Oord (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Dr. Oord’s Book with Bonnie as co-editor: Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Church of the Nazarene (Evangelical Christian Denomination) Holiness Movement Cru (until 2011 known as Campus Crusade for Christ) (Interdenominational Christian parachurch organization) Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey
 
Left Behind  
Lutheran Augustine of Hippo Alfred North Whitehead (English Mathematician and Philosopher) Charles Hartshorne (American philosopher) Matthew 16:24-26 NRSV (Take up cross to follow Jesus verse) ORTCon 2022 ORTLine 2022



MORE ON OUR GUEST THOMAS JAY OORD
Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. He directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. A twelve-time Faculty Award-winning professor, he teaches around the globe. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation.  Check out his website at ThomasJayOord.com



SUPPORT THE SHOW
You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.
PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).
MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.
AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you.



IRENCAST HOSTS
Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com
You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com.
Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com
You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org
Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com
Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.

The problem with patriarchal Christianity may seem obvious to many listeners of Irenicast.  It is no surprise to us that patriarchy has done perhaps irrevocable damage to not just Christianity, but the nation as well.  We are seeing the ripples of that sad truth on every level in society.
In this episode, three beneficiaries of the the f**ked up system we’ve come to know and loathe discuss ways we can lay aside our privilege to make room for others to lead.  It is not an easy task, and sometimes it seems like it is too little too late.  However, as Rajeev points out, there is still some hope left.  Is it enough to make a difference?
And for our segment this week, Casey introduces the team to a new one called Bunker Buddies.  Since most days feel like the end of the world is here, we figure we would lean into it and share the items we would bring to the Irenicast bunker to wait out the apocalypse.
Conversation on The Problem with Patriarchal Christianity (02:52)
Bunker Buddies Segment (39:57)



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Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today.



RELEVANT LINKS
From Our Conversation The Problem with Patriarchal Christianity
A Conversation with Carolyn Baker, Author of Confronting Christofascism – 194 (Irenicast Episode) The Generational Divide – Special Guest Co-Host Selah Cluff – 193 (Irenicast Episode) Angela Dorothea Merkel (Chancellor of Germany from 2005 to 2021) Jacinda Ardern (Prime Minister of New Zealand) Malala Yousafzai (Pakistani Activist) Good Night Stories for Rebel Girls by Elena Favilli and Francesca Cavallo (Books - Amazon Affiliate Link) Landing Spot (Non-Profit Organization Helping LGBTQIA+ Teens in Sacramento, CA) Atlas of the Heart: Mapping Meaningful Connection and the Language of Human Experience by Brené Brown (Books - Amazon Affiliate Link) Confronting Christofascism: Healing the Evangelical Wound (Kindle Edition) by Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Healing the Evangelical Wound: The End of Religious Authoritarianism by Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Encanto (2021 Film) From Our Bunker Buddies Segment
Bob’s Burgers (Fox Animated Series)


SUPPORT THE SHOW
You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. 
PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).
MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.
AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you.



IRENCAST HOSTS
Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com
You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com.
Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com
You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org
Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com
Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.
Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com
You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twi