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A podcast for the bold and curious to help you navigate our world's accelerating weirdness — about science and the philosophy of it, prehistory and post-humanity and deep time, non-human agency and non-duality, science fiction and the stories we regard as real, complex systems and sustainability (or lack thereof), psychedelics as a form of training for a weirding present and proliferating futures, art and creativity as service and as inquiry. Join paleontologist-futurist Michael Garfield every other week for deep but irreverent discussions on the biggest questions we can think to ask — and even deeper mysteries beyond what’s thinkable.
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A podcast for the bold and curious to help you navigate our world's accelerating weirdness — about science and the philosophy of it, prehistory and post-humanity and deep time, non-human agency and non-duality, science fiction and the stories we regard as real, complex systems and sustainability (or lack thereof), psychedelics as a form of training for a weirding present and proliferating futures, art and creativity as service and as inquiry. Join paleontologist-futurist Michael Garfield every other week for deep but irreverent discussions on the biggest questions we can think to ask — and even deeper mysteries beyond what’s thinkable.
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    168 - Mikey Lion & Malena Grosz on Festival Time, Life-Changing Trips, and Community in COVID

    168 - Mikey Lion & Malena Grosz on Festival Time, Life-Changing Trips, and Community in COVID

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    This week I talk with Mikey Lion, music producer and co-founder of Desert Hearts, and Malena Grosz, creator of The Party Pro Toolkit and director of Stargate Reunion, about the pandemic’s distortions of time and community, flow states and festival time, gatherings in the No New Normal, running a festival and record label at the same time, comparing the potentials of festivals and urban nightlife, the impact of stage design and architecture on how community events shape individual experience, the tension between intimacy and scale, my hatred of silent disco and multiple simultaneous competing sound systems, DMT and other life-changing experiences, the good parts of tribalism, psychedelic integration.
    We start talking about the initiatic inspirations for both of them as festival producers…and then things get weird. And beautiful and raw and real and intimate — surprisingly, intensely so. Mikey talks about a very bad trip and we help him integrate it.  
    We aim to close with two questions: What would you tell people in the future if they had forgotten how to party? And what, if they’re better at partying than we are, would you want to ask them?
    But then we get to talking about the future of festival economics…
    Mikey Lion: Spotify | SoundCloud | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter
    Desert Hearts: Spotify | SoundCloud | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter
    Malena Grosz: Party Pro Toolkit | Future Fossils 96 | LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook
    From the press release for Mikey’s new LP, For The Love:
    “Before nurturing his brand and record label into the behemoth that it is today, a young Mikey Lion had been living with his parents and questioning the direction to take his life. Mesmeric album closer ‘Talking To The Trees’ with its lush synth layers and gossamer vocals, sketches out how his path was revealed to him. During a fateful psychedelic trip, he was guided to spread love and community under the banner of House, Techno, and Love that fans know today. Desert Hearts was officially launched in 2012, and the rest is history."
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    People & Topics in this episode:
    Malena Grosz, Peter Dodds, George Carlin, Burning Man, Coachella, UtopiaFest, Firefly Gathering, Stuart Davis, Aliens and Artists, Topher Sipes, Trinumeral Festival, The War of Art
    Related episodes:
    David Bronner, Shane Mauss, The Teafaerie, Lydia Violet, Tricia Eastman, Rak Razam and Niles Heckman, Dennis McKenna, Jessica Nielson and Link Swanson
    Program Info:
    Episode edited by my amazing wife, Nicole Taylor. (It’s even more amazing that she did this when you listen to me divulge our relationship on the show…)
    Theme music by Future Fossils co-host Evan “Skytree” Snyder.
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    • 1 hr 41 min
    167 - Robert Jacobson on Opening The High Frontier for Business

    167 - Robert Jacobson on Opening The High Frontier for Business

    This week we talk with Robert C. Jacobson, entrepreneur and space industry enabler, advocate, and investor. Jacobson is the founder of Space Advisors, a strategic and financial consulting firm for space startups and organizations looking to establish a space strategy. He also works at the Arch Mission Foundation, which is dedicated to creating civilizational backup libraries, and Space Angels, the world’s first space-focused angel investment group. His new book is Space Is Open for Business: The Industry That Can Transform Humanity (sample it | buy the hardcover).
    In this episode, we discuss the bright and dark sides of the emerging space industry — from the inspirational and unifying 1970s visions of Gerard O’Neill to the 2020s’ clash of barons, SpaceX vs. Blue Origin, and the challenges of regulation in a space of blindingly fast innovation and massive inequality. 
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    People & Topics in this episode (links go to Future Fossils episodes or my Bookshop storefront):
    Gerard O’Neill’s The High Frontier, John David Ebert, Mark Nelson, Armin Ellis, Tanya Harrison, Elon Musk, Philip K. Dick’s The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, Geoffrey West, Annalee Newitz, Divya Persaud, Bob May, Jeff Bezos, W. Brian Arthur, Space Force, Arch Mission Foundation, Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars Trilogy (Red, Green, Blue), Robert Zubrin’s The Case For Mars, Robert David Steele, Greg Egan’s Distress
    Fermi’s Paradox, Space Anarchy, Frontierism, Civilizational Backups, The Not Insignificant Ethical Issue of Unchecked Mega-Billionaires, Space Isn’t Hospitable, Space Debris & The Tragedy of The Commons, Scaling Laws & Path Dependencies, Can We Make It To Space Before We Eat Ourselves?, Interdisciplinary Innovation vs. Institutional Incumbents & Inhibitory Structure, Space Is For Artists
    Other related FF episodes: Kate Greene, Barry Vacker, Jessa Gamble
    Program Info:
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    • 1 hr 28 min
    166 - Anna Riedl on Bounded Rationality & Effective Altruism

    166 - Anna Riedl on Bounded Rationality & Effective Altruism

    This week we’re joined by Anna Riedl, a Global Shaper at the World Economic Forum and organizer at Effective Altruism Austria, currently studying Cognitive Science at Universität Wien. We discuss behavioral economics, bounded rationality, computational rationality, and other formal ways of thinking about how to do the most good, given great uncertainty about most things. We ask whether “cognitive biases” are really fairly understood as biases when they’re the result of a rational learning process, we explore links to the quantified self, and we advocate for epistemic humility — and the need, no matter our incomplete understanding, to nonetheless still Do Something…
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    Other Links:
    Anna on FB: “Rationality ≠ Rationalism”
    Anna’s Cognitive Science Map
    Effective Altruism Austria
    Effective Altruism Redbubble Design Shop
    80,000 Hours: Key Ideas
    Gapminder.org
    Future of Humanity Institute
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    • 1 hr 2 min
    165 - Kevin Kelly on Time, Memory, Change, and Vanishing Asia

    165 - Kevin Kelly on Time, Memory, Change, and Vanishing Asia

    “The most expensive part of making this book was time. I spent my time, which is my scarcest resource. For every one of the nearly 9,000 images in this book, I was standing directly behind the camera. I had to get there. It’s not just a long way from the US to Asia, it was usually a long way from the airport to the local town in the countryside. And then it took time to reach the right village. And then it took time to find the ceremony. And then I would have to wait. Then wait some more. More than money, or photons, this book is made from time.”
    “Our religion, which is the religion of quantification and measurement” has transformed the world. This week on Future Fossils, we talk to Kevin Kelly about his three-volume photojournal Vanishing Asia, a style archive collected over 50 years and countless miles, winnowed down from 200,000 pictures.
    We talk about what it is to remember, to preserve, to capture, to restore, to reimagine… 
    Preservation bias in the archaeological history of technology,
    Cosmology and religion, the evolution of culture and faith in modernity,
    What kinds of value the economy is capable of capturing or even seeing, and what kinds it’s not capable of capturing,
    Ecosystem services and other invisible labor,
    When externalities are people,
    How long memories can make systems stubborn,
    How to optimize forgetting so as to be a good ancestor leaving more degrees of freedom,
    What makes an explanation good enough,
    The future of Asia and thus the world…
    Yeah, we squeeze a lot into 45 minutes.
    Pairs Well With:
    Future Fossils 128 - Kevin Kelly on Evolving with Technology
    Complexity 55 - James Evans on Social Computing and Diversity By Design
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    I'm slowly turning this podcast into a book, with help from Podscribe.ai — which I highly recommend to other podcasters. If you’d like to edit transcripts, please let me know! I’m @michaelgarfield on Twitter & Instagram.
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    • 51 min
    164 - Violet Luxton on Scientific Reductionism vs. Traditional Ecological Knowledge

    164 - Violet Luxton on Scientific Reductionism vs. Traditional Ecological Knowledge

    This week we talk to artist, musician, and community organizer Violet Luxton, who works and lives at the intersection of Indigenous wisdom traditions and Indigenous rights movements, #LandBack and #BlackLivesMatter, afro-futurism, yoga, and visionary biotechnological speculation. In a conversation far shorter than the subject matter deserves, we explore some of the themes in and related to her profound academic paper, "Transtemporality and The Technology of Indigenous Kinship: The Science of Remembering Ourselves."
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    Music by Future Fossils co-host Evan “Skytree” Snyder.
    Enjoy, and thanks for listening!
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    Also Discussed In This Episode:
    Violet Luxton at LinkedIn
    Saki Mafundikwa — Ingenuity and Elegance in Ancient African Alphabets [video]
    Ron Eglash — The Fractals at The Heart of African Designs [video]
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    Additional Resources:
    Buy the books we mention on Future Fossils at Bookshop.org/shop/FutureFossils, which supports local bookstores instead of Amazon and pays me 10% at no additional cost to you.
    When you’re ready to switch it up, here are my music and listening recommendations on Spotify.
    I transcribe this show with help from Podscribe.ai — which I highly recommend to other podcasters. If you’d like to help me edit transcripts for my upcoming Future Fossils book project, please let me know! I’m @michaelgarfield on Twitter & Instagram.
    If you’re looking for new ways to help regulate stress, get better sleep, recover from exercise, and/or stay alert and focused without stimulants, let me recommend the Apollo Neuro wearable. I have one and appreciate it so much I decided to join their affiliate program. The science is solid.
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    • 57 min
    163 - Bitcoin & Fungal Economies with Toby Kiers & Brandon Quittem

    163 - Bitcoin & Fungal Economies with Toby Kiers & Brandon Quittem

    This week we’re joined by evolutionary biologist Toby Kiers and Bitcoin entrepreneur Brandon Quittem for an interdisciplinary trialogue on the analogy between digital currencies and the so-called Wood Wide Web. Toby studies fungal economies in the lab, and her research challenges the commonly-held assumption that mycorrhizal networks are socialist utopia hippie love-fests. Brandon evangelizes “The Internet of Money” as an exemplary instance of biomimicry and argues that Bitcoin is doing for human finance what mycelial networks have done for terrestrial biology. And I wade in with more than my usual helping of paradoxically-critical enthusiasm to ask if “natural” really equals “healthy” or “desirable” in our rush to serve the evolutionary algorithm of technological development.  
    This one should appeal to anybody on the “Transhumanist Bitcoin Bro to Luddite Biodynamic Farmer” spectrum…share your thoughts about the episode in ourFuture Fossils Discord server or Facebook group, where it’s easy to link up with amazing fellow weirdos.
    Brandon’s Website & Twitter
    Brandon’s article, “Bitcoin is The Mycelium of Money”
    Toby’s Website & Twitter
    Toby’s TED talk, “Lessons from fungi on markets and economics”
    If you believe in the value of this show and want to see it thrive, support Future Fossils on Patreon and/or please rate and review Future Fossils on Apple Podcasts! Patrons gain access to over twenty secret episodes, unreleased music, our monthly book club, and many other wondrous things.
    Music by Future Fossils co-host Evan “Skytree” Snyder.
    I transcribe this show with help from Podscribe.ai — which I highly recommend to other podcasters. If you’d like to help me edit transcripts for my upcoming Future Fossils book project, please let me know! I’m @michaelgarfield on Twitter & Instagram.
    If you’re looking for new ways to help regulate stress, get better sleep, recover from exercise, and/or stay alert and focused without stimulants, let me recommend the Apollo Neuro wearable. I have one and appreciate it so much I decided to join their affiliate program. The science is solid.
    And for my fellow guitarists in the audience, let me recommend you get yourself a Jamstik Studio, the coolest MIDI guitar I’ve ever played. I just grabbed one this year and LOVE it. Videos soon!
    Enjoy, and thanks for listening!
    Additional Resources:
    Future Fossils 161 - Michael Phillip on Play & Creativity
    Future Fossils 81 - Art Brock on Holochain and the Future of Currency
    Future Fossils 56 - Sophia Rohklin on Anarchy, Ecology, Economy, and Shamanism
    Complexity 35 - Geoffrey West on Physical Scaling Laws
    Complexity 13 - Brian Arthur on the History of Complexity Economics
    Complexity 8 - Olivia Judson on Life’s Major Energy Transitions
    Deep Facebook thread on the un/sustainability of blockchains & cryptocurrencies
    Regen Network
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    • 1 hr 24 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
195 Ratings

195 Ratings

L. Kuiper ,

Bizarre and indispensable

Michael Garfield does a great job bringing in great guests and asking really thoughtful, unique, and deep questions. All in all it really helps to broaden the listeners' mind about the place in time we inhabit as future fossils.

Arlie K ,

Fascinating insights!

The insight that Michael brings to bear on the challenges facing humanity is mind-blowing every. Single. Time. I appreciate his thoughtfulness and sincerity, and I can tell the guests he brings on are people he is genuinely excited to share with Future Fossils listeners. Really fascinating listen!

Oyoy3788 ,

Original and thought provoking

Michael does a great job blending evolutionary concepts, futurism with allegorical examples of humanity’s past, present, and future. This is a really thought provoking podcast. Highly recommend it for all curious people. And best of all he’s independent!!

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