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The Earthshot podcast is a platform for critical and collaborative conversations about stabilizing the planet and elevating the ethics and integrity of restoring nature. We interview environmental, social, climate, and economic justice leaders focused on healing humanity’s relationship with nature.
The Earthshot Podcast is a project of Earthshot Labs, a company building the technology and operational capacity to scale carbon credits globally in alignment with regenerative principles.
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Post-Capitalist Philanthropy with Lynn Murphy & Alnoor Ladha
Lynn Murphy & Alnoor Ladha - Post-Capitalist Philanthropy
“Doing the decolonizing, deprogramming, deconditioning, unlearning work, as well as thinking non-laterally and moving the dominant ontology and dominant cosmology from this rationalist-separatist-materialist worldview to one that's more relational, more quantum, more queer, more based on interbeing, is going to open up vistas of possibility that we can't even imagine from our current vantage point.” -Alnoor Ladha“We’re looking at how do we liberate capital and alchemize wealth in service of life,if you understand the structure how capital markets function they are not in service to life, and they aren’t often looked at through a framework of liberation “-Lynne Murphy
In this episode, host Armando Davila interviews Lynn Murphy and Alnoor Ladha of Transition Resource Circle about our world’s necessary shift beyond late-stage capitalism. This vibrant and out-of-the-box conversation starts with exploring our current economy and why leaving the house of capitalist modernity over the next ten to twenty years is crucial. Then the fun really begins when Lynn and Alnoor Ladha paint a picture of how this shift might look and the tools they are using to catalyze this transition. This radical conversation will open your mind to new ideas and possibilities for shifting beyond capitalism and creating a sustainable future.
IN THIS EPISODE:
An introduction to Post-Capitalist Philanthropy
Lynn & Alnoor Ladha’s backgrounds and how they came to this work
The Transition Resource Circle
Why our current growth-based economy isn’t sustainable for the Earth
The impending collapse of late-stage capitalism
How to leave the house of capitalist modernity
The importance of creating more local resilience & self-reliance in communities
How doing inner work can open up unimaginable possibilities
Releasing resistance to letting go of certainty and comfort
Why the approach to using capital to build a post-capitalist infrastructure is so important
The 5 element mandala Lynn & Alnoor Ladha use as a tool for exploring transition pathways
The importance of gifting and redistributing wealth for decolonization and liberation
How to work with Lynn and Alnoor Ladha and their Transition Resource Circle
RELEVANT LINKS:
Transition Resource Circle: www.transitionresourcecircle.org,
Post Capitalist Philanthropy Book: https://www.postcapitalistphilanthropy.org/
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com -
Assisted Natural Regeneration with Robin Chazdon
“Restoration is not just about planting trees or about making an area look beautiful again. It's about recreating a social ecological system that is more resilient and is more aligned with natural processes.” -Robin Chazdon
This episode features legendary ecologist Robin Chazdon with hosts Armando Davila, Patrick Leung, & Pedro Ribeiro Piffer for an adventure through the world of assisted natural regeneration. Robin discusses active versus passive regeneration, how to increase the capacity of local communities to lead restoration, and the importance of honoring traditional knowledge. Robin then paints a vision of a fair trade carbon market, discusses biodiversity monitoring, and explores the challenges of involving corporations in restoration projects. This rich conversation ends on an inspirational note as Robin skillfully describes how we are all interconnected with each other and the natural world.
IN THIS EPISODE:
How Robin started her journey as an ecologist and how her work has evolved over her career
Her current projects including the UN’s Best Practices Task Force
An overview of assisted natural regeneration
Active regeneration vs. passive regeneration
How to support farmers in regenerating their land
Robin’s view on monoculture plantations
How to decide which restoration approach to use
The important social considerations of restoration projects
How to increase the capacity of local communities to lead restoration
The importance of honoring local and traditional knowledge
Robin’s vision of a fair trade carbon market
Biodiversity monitoring as a way to measure the effects of restoration projects
The dangers of viewing nature as a corporate asset
The importance of channeling funds through ground-based mechanisms
What it will take for corporations to change their practices towards greater sustainability
The importance of recognizing that we are all in this together
How our humanity is dependent on our relationship with the natural world
The importance of multi-disciplinary collaboration & infiltrating the corporate sector
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Robin’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-chazdon-96218a59/
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com -
Legalizing The Rights of Nature with Earth Law Center
Grant Wilson and Michelle Bender of Earth Law Center - Legal Rights of Nature
“How do you give nature a voice within carbon markets?” -Grant Wilson
Grant Wilson, Executive Director of Earth Law Center, & Michelle Bender, Ocean Campaigns Director of Earth Law Center, join hosts Armando Davila & Troy Carter for a discussion about the Rights of Nature Movement. After an overview of how this movement advocates for nature to have rights just as humans do, Grant and Michelle discuss traction that the movement is gaining in Ecuador and New Zealand and explore how this movement can be integrated with the carbon market’s financial approach to protect nature to the fullest extent possible. This deep conversation also includes a heart-centered discussion about how humanity, society, economics, and law are inseparable from nature and also explores the unique challenges of protecting the rights of our oceans. You’ll also learn more about the Earth Law Center and how you can get involved.
IN THIS EPISODE:
An overview of the rights of nature movement and Earth law
Rights of nature laws that are being enacted internationally
The articles of Ecuador’s rights of nature
An example of a successful lawsuit in the name of rights of nature
A journey into Ecuador’s Los Cedros cloud forest and how Earth law saved it from mining, setting a precedent for respecting the rights of nature
New Zealand’s journey of granting legal rights to its rivers
What rights of nature means in relation to indigenous worldviews
How the rights of nature movement can be integrated with the carbon market’s financial approach to protecting nature
Unique corporate structures where nature can be a shareholder or sit on a board of directors
How humanity, society, economics, and law are inseparable from nature
The dangers of viewing Earth as a machine and focusing on technological solutions for the climate crisis
How listeners can get involved in the rights of nature movement
Approaching decisions that may support human/societal development but may be harmful to nature (ie mining precious metals for technology)
How the rights of nature apply to oceans
How legal victories can change public opinion and vice versa
About the Earth Law Center
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Earth Law Center: https://www.earthlawcenter.org/
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com -
Verra: Setting the Standard for Carbon Markets
“We need all hands on deck in all areas, all sectors, and all approaches. So that means we need governments setting aggressive climate policy and regulation to control as far and fast as possible top-down, we need corporates and industry to do their part and do everything they can to decarbonize and squeeze out emissions…and then we also need market mechanisms like what Verra pioneers and helps manage that bring integrity and the ability for finance to flow to other activities that otherwise wouldn't be supported and are critical for us addressing the climate challenge.” -Toby Janson-Smith
David Antonioli, CEO at Verra, & Toby Jason-Smith, Chief Program Development & Innovation Officer at Verra, join hosts Armando Davila & Oliver Miltenberger for a rich discussion about carbon markets and the importance of standards and transparency. David and Toby begin by introducing us to Verra, a nonprofit organization setting the world’s leading standards for climate action and sustainable development, and continue on to discuss the past, present, and future of the carbon market and its role in addressing the climate crisis. They masterfully address questions, critiques, and challenges alive in the carbon market sector today and discuss what is needed for the carbon market to successfully play its part in creating a sustainable future for all.
IN THIS EPISODE:
An overview of nonprofit organization Verra as well as David’s and Toby’s roles there
The history of Verra and its evolution to what it is today
A history of the carbon market and how and why standards have been developed
The systems and processes needed to continue to scale the carbon market successfully
Why offsetting carbon is not enough and what else must be done
How the volunteer carbon market is positioned to put pressure on corporates to make internal carbon reductions
Why direct action within our economy to reduce emissions is needed first and foremost to address the climate crisis
How the carbon market is designed to offset residual emissions that cannot be reduced
Carbon markets as a way to jumpstart finance for new climate technologies and activities
How some countries are implementing carbon taxes to support the carbon market
Why clarity is needed around what carbon credit claims corporates can make and what these claims mean
How to address the current confusion in the carbon market today
The Integrity Council for Voluntary Carbon Markets and other initiatives meant to ensure that carbon credit issuers are meeting standards
Additionality explained
Why renewable energy projects are no longer creditable under Verra’s standards
Carbon removals vs avoidance reductions
Baselines explained
Creating a framework that values nature when projects don’t qualify for carbon credits
Climate community and biodiversity standards that are being used in addition to the core carbon standards
The challenges of estimating the actual success of project before it’s executed
How to ensure indigenous communities are being supported by local projects
The importance of learning and not letting perfect be the enemy of the good that’s happening
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Verra: https://verra.org
Kasigau Project: https://www.innovationforum.co.uk/articles/the-kasigau-corridor-redd-project
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com -
Consuming Less Energy: Our Critical Transition with Richard Heinberg
1. Richard Heinberg - Consuming Less Energy: Our Critical Transition
“Nature will win in the end and balance will be reestablished. The question is how is it going to happen and if we're working in the direction of rebalancing things and doing it from the standpoint of minimizing the casualties and maximizing the opportunities of the survivors.” -Richard Heinberg
Richard Heinberg, author and Senior Fellow at Post Carbon Institute, joins hosts Patrick Leung and Armando Davila for a deep conversation on the importance of reducing energy consumption for humanity’s transition to a sustainable existence on Earth. Richard sheds light on the harm that energy consumption causes, the history behind it, and the factors making it difficult to reduce. The discussion then moves to practical ways to reduce energy consumption, countries that are doing so on a large scale, how nature is supporting us in this transition, and how we can work together with nature to create a beautiful and sustainable future.
IN THIS EPISODE:
The impact of affluence on energy consumption
How using energy almost always causes environmental harm
The serious challenges with renewables
The only way the energy transition is likely to work
Why green growth is not enough without downsizing industrial society
Practical ways to live a lower consumption lifestyle
The hidden energy usage behind the green industry
How the field of economics is energy blind
The historical roots of consumerism
The importance of social innovation
How moving away from consumption is an act of resistance
Why continuous economic growth is unsustainable
The importance of periods of economic retraction
The countries that are leading the way in methods for reducing consumption
How consuming less doesn’t need to equate with a less happy life
The importance of conserving wild ecosystems for future generations
Nature’s tendency to always reestablish the balance of power
Why we need more optimistic post-apocalyptic fiction
The power of beauty and nature’s deliberate production of it
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Richard’s Website: https://richardheinberg.com
Post Carbon Institute: https://www.postcarbon.org/
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com -
Patrick Leung, Armando Davila, & Troy Carter - Season 1 Finale
In this season 1 wrap-up episode, hosts Patrick, Troy, and Armando reflect on the first season of the Earthshot Podcast, including themes and insights that emerged, favorite moments with guests, and the evolution of the podcast, of Earthshot Labs, and of the state of the climate crisis. Stay tuned for Season 2, coming in 2023!
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Troy Carter’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/troyearthshot
Patrick Leung’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/puiwah
Armando Davila’s Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/armando-davila-49681716
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: littlewhale.bandcamp.com
Customer Reviews
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Great podcast for those who actually care about the environment :)
Needed approach to conversation
This podcast takes a greatly aspirational and practical approach to the conversation around ecosystem restoration and the climate change.
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I am actively angry after listening to the episode with Susan Cook-Patton. It seems like she’s probably doing really fascinating work, but we only heard about the work Earthshot is doing. The only questions about her work were about how it relates to yours. We only really learn about her when she goes off topic from the questions you asked. You want to know how to uplift women in science? If you have one on a podcast CENTER HER EXPERIENCE, NOT YOURS. I’m sure you’re doing great things too! Awesome! That’s important! If you want to talk about it, do so during an episode with just your team! You can hear the point about 2/3 through where she gives up on talking about her work and just accepts that her role is to ask questions about you, since all you’re going to talk about is yourselves anyway. I am furious.