Juliana McCarthy | Chaotic Waves Matt D’Elia Is Confused

Renowned astrologist Juliana McCarthy joins Matt, on her birthday of all days, to help him understand exactly what astrology really is— and why it’s gaining in popularity at this particular moment in time. (According to The Pew Research Center, over 25% of Americans now believe in astrology.) From there they get into a broader conversation about belief, myth, archetype, chaos, and human history. Finally, there is an unexpected but very welcome revelation about alt-right leader Richard Spencer’s sexual orientation. Matt’s world is rocked.

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