A podcast for soul sisters, where we talk all things faith, feminism, and friendship from our homes in the South.
We explore the age-old question of what happens when we die. We return to our evangelical roots and discuss theologies of salvation, atonement, and baptism—and how those things are portrayed in church culture (hell house, anyone?). Is Hell even a biblical concept at all? Then we move into talking about where we land these days. In short, we have a lot of questions, and we’re just fine with that.
Navigating Grief, Part 2: What Does It Mean To Heal?
What does it mean to heal from grief? Is it something we do alone, or is healing a communal effort? What does support look like for grieving people, and where do we go for that support? How do we support people we love who are grieving? These are some of the things we talk about in this second conversation about grief.
Some of the areas we discuss are the ways that churches show up (and don’t) when we are suffering a loss, how grief connects to the rituals of different religious seasons and practices, and some of the worst things people say in the face of a person’s loss.
How to Process our Collective Grief (https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/23/how-to-process-our-collective-grief)
Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times by Katherine May (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52623750-wintering)
Marked by Covid (https://www.markedbycovid.com/)
Black Liturgies on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/blackliturgies/)
Navigating Grief, Part 1: Naming and Claiming
For a long time we’ve been saying that we need to record an episode about this heavy topic, but we’ve just been too mired in it ourselves to talk about it publicly. We’re finally ready, and we have so much to say that we’re making it a two-parter.
In this episode we talk about what exactly grief is, what some of the different types are, and how no matter the source, your grief is valid.
Things We Mention:
Brene Brown's Atlas of the Heart
Columbia Center for Complicated Grief
Webinar: Healing the Brain After Loss
We talk about our reactions to the post-Roe reality that we are making our way through, how we are navigating our own grief journeys this year, and what we are turning to for comfort in these hard days. Ashley shares about the compounded grief her family is experiencing, and Katey shares about coming out about being queer.
Resources We Mention:
-AbortionsWelcome.org, our pro-choice spiritual companion for before, during, and after abortion
-National Network of Abortion Funds
-ineedana.com for abortion seekers
-Emergent Strategy by adrienne marie brown
- Rebecca Campbell's community Sancutary
- Hacks on HBO
- Harry Styles's album, Harry's House
Katey and Ashley share life updates, some big lows and some inspiring highs, and they share some of their inspiring, fun reads on their currently-reading lists: The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo, Come As You Are, The Once and Future Witches, and The Firekeeper's Daughter.
Be sure to check out www.abortionswelcome.org and pick up a copy of Katey's book A Complicated Choice at our online bookstore! https://bookshop.org/shop/kindreds
A Complicated Choice with Katey Zeh
Ashley sits down with Katey to discuss her new book A Complicated Choice: Making Space for Grief and Healing in the Pro-Choice Movement. We talk about how this wasn't the book Katey intended to write, how the process of writing it taught her a lot about burnout, and how we can all learn to be more compassionate in the ways that we talk about abortion, especially in how we show up for people who are experiencing it.
Buy the book: www.bookshop.org/shop/kindreds
Check out the show notes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2022/02/16/episode-64-a-complicated-choice-by-katey-zeh/
Hit a chord with me
Oh my gosh, the quote that you read about the word "blessed" and the problems that come with it (associated with unearned privilege) really resonated with me. I've felt kind of odd about that word and couldn't put my finger on why. Thanks for that discussion. - C. Levin
Love this podcast.
As a Christian who is constantly learning about social justice, this podcast makes me feel less alone in the world. There aren’t many spaces where I can find Christians who agree with me about LGBTQ+ issues, reproductive rights, racism etc. but Katey and Ashley are unapologetic about their views. Their episode about diet culture was a revelation! Thanks for showing me I still have a space in this faith, folks.
Important informative and fun!
I have been listening to this podcast since it started and love it!! While most topics are aimed at women, men like myself can learn a lot about the opposite sex! Katey and Ashley have crafted a podcast with the perfect balance between conversation, introspection, and information sharing. If you want to give them a try, I recommend #9 “What it means to be white”. It’s an honest look into the racial divide in our country and how white privilege effects us all. Give a listen...you’ll love it!!