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This show is a collection of real, honest, and sometimes messy conversations between two friends. We’ll explore racism, antiracism, interracial friendship, activism, books, films, and more through our different lived experiences. We’ll offer questions and actions to help you go deeper into your exploration of race & culture, find your own inner disruptor, and be a part of the solution. Occasionally, we’ll bring you interviews with others who are experts in this work so we can learn together and do better.

Naked Conversations: Race, Culture, & Beyond Sage B. Hobbs | Naked Conversations

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 30 Ratings

This show is a collection of real, honest, and sometimes messy conversations between two friends. We’ll explore racism, antiracism, interracial friendship, activism, books, films, and more through our different lived experiences. We’ll offer questions and actions to help you go deeper into your exploration of race & culture, find your own inner disruptor, and be a part of the solution. Occasionally, we’ll bring you interviews with others who are experts in this work so we can learn together and do better.

    S7E6: Race & Roe Overturned

    S7E6: Race & Roe Overturned

    We are vacillating between resignation and rage in the wake of the Roe v. Wade decision. We recorded this episode on June 28. This is a heavy and raw conversation. You will hear us dive into uncomfortable terrain and uncover the nuances in our own belief systems. 
    This is a harrowing time. Don’t forget to reach out and lean on your support networks, find healthy outlets for your emotions, and be an advocate and ally for those most experiencing the gravity of these decisions. Resources and more reading linked below. 
     
    Listen to hear us talk about 
    - Support networks: finding outlets for rage, reclaiming agency, and what to do when the people you love don’t share your values. 
    - Embracing nuance in a culture of extremism
    - Who actually experiences the lived burden of this decision? (Not men)
    - The immense undertaking of being a parent. 
    - Further consequences of this decision: people who are already under-resourced will be disproportionately affected. 
    What we’re watching:
    - Summer of Soul (...Or, When the Revolution Could Not Be Televised) - On Netflix
     
    Resources
    Abortion Laws by State: https://reproductiverights.org/maps/what-if-roe-fell/
     
     
    Connect with us and learn more about our work:
    Sage: Speaking, leadership development & coaching, team building, and group facilitation www.sagebhobbs.com
    On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sagebhobbs/
     
    Erica: Executive coaching and organizational strategy at Flying Colors LLC:
    https://www.flyingcolorsllc.com/flying-colors-about-us- 
     
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    • 42 min
    S7E5: The What and Why of Truth and Reconciliation

    S7E5: The What and Why of Truth and Reconciliation

    "Own the history, tell the truth, sit with the discomfort”. 
    Since our chat with Amy Hunter last week, we haven’t been able to stop thinking about Truth and Reconciliation. In this episode we take a deep dive into its history, and applications, and what it would mean for the U.S to adopt its own T&R process.   
     
    Listen to hear us talk about:
    - Truth and reconciliation: what does it really mean? 
    - Does the U.S. need a T&R commission?
    - Feeling personally attacked: this isn’t about you, and you don’t need to get your feelings hurt. 
    - Being representative of your race: black folks are constantly equated to their race, white people can own their whiteness too. 
    - Imagining truth & reconciliation: what would it look like? Who would be in the room?
    - You don’t have to agree, but you can listen. 
    - Apologies: do they mean anything? What if there was a system to walk us through this?
    - Sage’s ABCDE framework for cross-cultural communication 
     
    Resources mentioned
    1. Marianne's letter of apology: https://marianne.com/atonement/  
    2. 1619 Project: https://1619education.org/?gclid=CjwKCAjwzeqVBhAoEiwAOrEmzTwYg5f2D6l-sA4IvQJ-oyEW73P4EvKmfOeBbi31fpDQLHOgz0TT1RoC9ngQAvD_BwE 
    3. Sage’s ABCDE approach to cross-cultural communication
    - Approach with respect
    - Be curious (with discretion) 
    - Communication for connection (clean, clear, compassionate, couragmneous) 
    - Dialogue (encourage discussion, don’t shut it down)
    - Educate yourself (diversify sources, you’re never done learning) 
     
     
     
    Connect with us and learn more about our work:
    Sage: Speaking, leadership development & coaching, team building, and group facilitation www.sagebhobbs.com
    On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sagebhobbs/
     
    Erica: Executive coaching and organizational strategy at Flying Colors LLC:
    https://www.flyingcolorsllc.com/flying-colors-about-us- 
     
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    • 13 min
    S7E4: Amy Hunter on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion at Work

    S7E4: Amy Hunter on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion at Work

    “Not everything I’ve tried has worked, I just have forgotten about the things that didn’t work.” - Amy Hunter
    This woman will blow your mind. We are so blessed to have had this conversation with Amy Hunter, it went completely off-script in the best possible way. Amy is ‘Miss Optimism’, a relentless trier. She speaks in possibility. She motivates us to do better, to reach higher, to dream bigger. Thank you Amy. We hope you are all as inspired by this conversation as we are.
     
    Listen to hear us talk about:
    - What inspired Amy into activism at age 14
    - HBCU’s (historically black colleges and universities) and “being white”
    - The need for white women to step up and support their black sisters. No longer saying yes to violence and injustice. 
    - What does truth and reconciliation look like in practice, between women, across racial lines? 
    - Apologies: who needs to apologise, and for what? 
    - How “not being good enough” and “not belonging to a community” are socialisations of whiteness 
    - Optimism: failing & trying again. How Amy looks to her successes to sustain her activist work
    - Your sphere of influence: what can you do to make a tangible difference, right now? 
     
    More about Amy Hunter:
    Amy A. Hunter is the Vice President of Global Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion for the publicly traded footwear company, Caleres.  She recently joined the Caleres team after serving as the Senior Global Equity Diversity and Inclusion leader at Boeing.  At Caleres she leads the global initiatives for diversity equity and inclusion. She has enjoyed a career in diversity working within the healthcare, agricultural, educational, and financial services industries.   
    Hunter has more than 20 years of experience in human resources, organizational development, project management and leadership within the corporate and nonprofit arenas. Her responsibilities have included creating and implementing return on investment strategies for recruitment, curriculums for training and development and measurable retention strategies. 
    Her community engagements have included serving on several boards for local organizations. She has spoken and presented diversity training, keynotes, seminars, and strategy sessions around the world.  She is well respected globally and has received numerous awards for her achievements as a diversity resource. Her popular speech “The Talk” was incorporated into a TEDx presentation called “Lucky Zip Codes.” Hunter has an earned undergraduate degree and is currently pursuing a doctorate from the University of Missouri-St. Louis. 
     
    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    - Cornel West - Racism Literature 
    - Amy’s company ‘Caleres’: https://www.caleres.com/ 
    - Amy’s TED talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g36ijwr3wc8 
    - Witnessing Whiteness (YMCA program): https://www.ywcastl.org/what-were-doing/racial-justice/witnessing-whiteness 
     
    Books:
    - Tarana Burke & Brene Brown: You Are Your Best Thing
    - Brene Brown: Atlas of The Heart,
    - Ijeoma Oluo: So You Want to Talk About Race 
    - Isabel Wilkerson: Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents
    - Gary John Bishop: Unfu*k Yourself: Get Out of Your Head and Into Your Life
    Connect with Amy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-hunter-491767b 
     
     
     
    Connect with us and learn more about our work:
    Sage: Speaking, leadership development & coaching, team building, and group facilitation www.sagebhobbs.com
    On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sagebhobbs/
     
    Erica: Executive coaching and organizational strategy at Flying Colors LLC:
    https://www.flyingcolorsllc.com/flying-colors-about-us- 
     
    Help support antiracism work and community dialogue by SHARING to the show with your friends and family!
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    • 59 min
    S7E3: Dr. Andrea Kane on Racism, Education, and Hope

    S7E3: Dr. Andrea Kane on Racism, Education, and Hope

    We are joined today by none other than THE Dr. Andrea M Kane, one of the most courageous & bold women we know, working tirelessly to transform the public education system. Wow, you are in for a treat. 
     
    Listen to hear us talk about: 
    - What is educational equity? 
    - Savior complex in teaching environments is a disservice: the fine line between coddling and supporting.
    - Why teachers must unpack their own biases if they want to truly support their students
    - Sustainability in activist work: how to stay grounded and motivated, how to support other people to stay in the game 
    - Why the public education system is an aspirational endeavor 
    - Dr Kane’s own experience of backlash & negativity in response to speaking out against racial injustice
     
    About Dr. Andrea M. Kane:
    Dr. Kane is a Professor of Practice in Educational Leadership at the University of Pennsylvania’s Graduate School of Education. She took on this role after serving as the the first African American Superintendent for Queen Anne’s County Public Schools, where she set professional and personal goals focused on implementing equitable practices across all areas of the organization including improving black, brown, and poor students’ access to advanced learning opportunities, offering the first African American Studies course in district history, building a diverse workforce, promoting student voice, and providing cultural proficiency/educational equity professional development to all employees.
     
    Dr. Kane’s visionary leadership proved to be effective in large suburban, urban, and small rural districts with the following as some of her achievements: 
    - recognition for the first fully virtual learning program for public elementary and middle school students in Maryland, 
    - achieving Green School certification in 100% of schools in Queen Anne's County Public Schools (QACPS) in 2020 and 2021,
    - first National Blue Ribbon School in QACPS history (2020-21)
    - a grant award for one million dollars for an innovative outdoor environmental education and STEAM summer program in 2021, 
    - and induction into the prestigious Baltimore City College High School Hall of Fame (2018)
     
    What Dr. Andrea Kane is currently hooked on:
    Ozark & the new Jurassic Park movie
     
    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    New York Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/10/us/politics/maryland-superintendent-racism-black-lives-matter.html 
    Dr Andrea Kane’s Co-Authored Book: Coaching Champions: How to Understand the Players Before Giving the Plays - A Guide to Improvement and Success (May 2019).
     
    Connect with us and learn more about our work:
    Sage: Speaking, leadership development & coaching, team building, and group facilitation www.sagebhobbs.com
    On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sagebhobbs/
     
    Erica: Executive coaching and organizational strategy at Flying Colors LLC:
    https://www.flyingcolorsllc.com/flying-colors-about-us-
     
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    • 58 min
    S7E2: Rita Brent: On Being a Black, Queer, Musician and Comedian from Mississippi

    S7E2: Rita Brent: On Being a Black, Queer, Musician and Comedian from Mississippi

    Season 7 continues to bring phenomenal guests and conversations.
    We have an incredible guest on this episode, whom we “met” at a live comedy show in Austin, TX. She is bold and honest, unafraid to speak to injustices and is just damn funny. We are such big fans of Rita Brent and we are beyond excited that she is joining us today.
     
    Listen to hear us talk about:
    - How the places we live can cultivate (or hinder) our talents.
    - Using curse words: when are they necessary, and when do they detract from the value of the message?
    - Cancel culture: who gives who the power to cancel? Who is the author of this cancellation?
    - Being strategic in the internet age: everything we say can be used against us
    - Disarming through humor - using comedy to shake opinions and resonate deeply
    - Greater popularity means greater responsibility. How should we use our platforms?
    - Why it is important to acknowledge and accept our fears, and not leave this earth with regrets.
     
    More about the hilarious and brilliant Rita Brent”
    Rita Brent is a comedian, musician, and military veteran from Jackson, Mississippi. She discovered her love for music as a young girl performing in talent shows and southern Baptist churches as a drummer alongside her mother and singer-pianist, Angela. She credits her mother as the one who helped cultivate and support her talents. At age 18, she joined the 41st Army National Guard Band where she served for nine years and ended her time in service as a sergeant. Rita graduated from her beloved HBCU, Jackson State University, with a Bachelor’s Degree in Mass and Speech Communication, and pledged Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated.
     
    After graduating from JSU she landed at Mississippi Public Broadcasting where she served as a Radio Host and Producer. In March 2013, Rita made a sharp turn and plunged into a career as a stand-up comedian. Since then, she’s been featured on Kevin Hart’s Hart of the City, TruTV’s Laff Mobb’s Laff Tracks, and Epix TV's Unprotected Sets. Rita has released three singles, “Kamala,” “Raised in the Sipp,” and “I Deserve to Be Alive”. She currently tours as a feature act with her mentors, Rickey Smiley and Cedric the Entertainer. Rita wrote for the 73rd Primetime Emmy Awards, the Academy of Country Music Awards, MusiCares Person of the Year, and Netflix’s “Stand Out: An LGBTQ+ Celebration”. Rita is currently on The Born Funny Tour, her first as a headlining act.
     
    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    What Rita is currently hooked on:
    Reading: Viola Davis’s “Finding Me”, Christine Plant’s “Afrominimalist”. 
    Watching: Stranger Things, First Ladies, The Lincoln Lawyer
     
    Website: www.ritabrent.com  
    Social Media: @ritabrentcomedy   
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/RitaBEntertainment 
    Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/rita-brent/1476684820 
     
    Connect with us and learn more about our work:
    Sage: Speaking, leadership development & coaching, team building, and group facilitation www.sagebhobbs.com
    On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sagebhobbs/
     
    Erica: Executive coaching and organizational strategy at Flying Colors LLC:
    https://www.flyingcolorsllc.com/flying-colors-about-us- 
     
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    • 1 hr 2 min
    S7E1: Bridgerton, The Oscar’s Slap, THE Kentanji Brown Jackson, and Disrupting the Construction Industry

    S7E1: Bridgerton, The Oscar’s Slap, THE Kentanji Brown Jackson, and Disrupting the Construction Industry

    WELCOME to Season 7!  We’re so excited to be back with all of you.  There’s so much happening in the world that we want to discuss and share with you, it’s hard to know where to begin.  In this episode, we’re talking about the return of Bridgerton, the Supreme Court nominee hearings for Kentanji Brown Jackson, and the Oscars slap that’s got lots of folks talking.
     
    Listen to hear us talk about:
    The amazing Shonda Rhimes and Bridgerton’s drama and disruption Sage’s experience presenting at the 2022 Construction Diversity Summit at the University of Colorado Boulder and the many questions that attendees brought with them How we’re feeling (and there are LOTS of feelings) about Jackson’s Supreme Court nomination hearings Jada, Will, Chris, the Oscars, the big slap, and how the Williams sisters got lost in all of it  
    Links and Resources Mentioned:
    Colorado’s 2022 Construction Diversity Summit
    Episode on Comedy, Cancel Culture, and Dave Chappelle
    Episode on Equity and Education:Can Schools Fix Racism? 
    Shonda Rhimes book Year of Yes
     
    Connect with us and learn more about our work:
    Sage: Speaking, inclusive leadership coaching, team building, and facilitation www.sagebhobbs.com
    On LinkedIn
    Erica: Executive coaching and organizational strategy at Flying Colors LLC
     
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    Take a screenshot of an episode you love and tag @racecultureandbeyondpodcast on Instagram Click the “share” button on whichever platform you listen and send it to folks who would find it helpful Good old “spread the word,” and talk about it with your people   
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To be seen in our truth is powerful for all people but especially for people of color. And one way of achieving sight and insight is by asking and answering the right questions. Erica Howard answers some hard questions about race and what it means to be alive in such times as these and those answers reveal the commonalities and the shared experience of being Black in America regardless of the era. “That moment when you decide who you are and who you are not,” recalls Erica when answering when she first became aware of racism. This defining incident along with others is captured with clarity and contextualization in what is referred to as the “Steak N Shake” moments, a period in her teenage life when she got her first job waitressing in a predominantly white area of Southern Illinois. Naked Conversations allows us to reflect on our own experiences while listening to a honest conversation between friends of differing racial background but shared empathy for what it means to be alive and connecting with others.

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