31 episodes

Sick of the echo chamber? Do you find yourself nodding off to the same shows saying the same things over and over again? Plaintiff’s lawyer Jay Edelson has made his reputation ignoring conventional thinking. For that, the American Bar Association has recognized him as one of the “most creative minds in the legal industry.” Racking up over $20 billion in settlements and verdicts, he has been called a "titan of the plaintiff’s bar,” a “transformational lawyer,” and, according to the New York Times, law’s “baby-faced boogieman.” His podcast explores new ways of looking at issues ranging from law and politics to movies, sports and art.  He and his guests will cut through the tribalism that is increasingly defining our society and deliver a show that is completely non-compliant.

Non-Compliant Podcast Jay Edelson

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.8 • 54 Ratings

Sick of the echo chamber? Do you find yourself nodding off to the same shows saying the same things over and over again? Plaintiff’s lawyer Jay Edelson has made his reputation ignoring conventional thinking. For that, the American Bar Association has recognized him as one of the “most creative minds in the legal industry.” Racking up over $20 billion in settlements and verdicts, he has been called a "titan of the plaintiff’s bar,” a “transformational lawyer,” and, according to the New York Times, law’s “baby-faced boogieman.” His podcast explores new ways of looking at issues ranging from law and politics to movies, sports and art.  He and his guests will cut through the tribalism that is increasingly defining our society and deliver a show that is completely non-compliant.

    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 31:The One Where We Get Nostalgic With Class Action Park Co-Director Seth Porges

    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 31:The One Where We Get Nostalgic With Class Action Park Co-Director Seth Porges

    The nostalgia of the 80’s and 90’s is a driving force of our pop-culture today. With the rise of streaming services like Netflix and thrilling documentaries like HBO Max’s Class Action Park, it is now easier than ever to get a glimpse into that era and make us push the limits of our recollections of the past.

    In Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 31, Host Jay Edelson, nationally recognized plaintiff’s attorney and Founder of Edelson PC, and Guest Seth Porges, Co-Director of hit HBO Max documentary Class Action Park, discuss the murky areas of nostalgia, the wild story of Action Park, the rise of streaming services, and the process of making a documentary.

    To start the show, Jay and Seth get nostalgic and talk about how 80’s and 90’s culture that has shaped who we are today (4:15). It is fascinating to see the transformation of kids that were often left alone to push their limits in that era, as they turn into the helicopter parents today that are hyper-focused on their children’s activities.

    Next, Jay and Seth delve into the wild true story behind Class Action Park and how its chaotic atmosphere made life-long memories for anyone that experienced its glory (10:05). While such a park doesn’t exist today, the documentary gives viewers a chance to ask themselves how they would respond to the anarchy and chaos (12:23). On a broader scale, Class Action Park also gets viewers to revisit their own experiences of growing up in the 80’s or 90’s in an era with more freedom (14:30).

    Later in the show, Jay and Seth discuss the growing popularity of documentaries that have evolved from Ken Burns-style informational shows to the wild-romps like Class Action Park (25:04). The rise of streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, and HBO Max have allowed for more viewers to access documentaries for the first time, especially during the pandemic (27:36). But the uptick in popularity is also due to the differing style of documentaries we see today that force us to take a fresh look at reality (29:00).

    To wrap the show, Jay and Seth break down the process of making a documentary and how Class Action Park went from concept to one of the most popular HBO Max movies (30:50). Even with multiple streaming services, filmmakers must put in a lot of work to get attention for their projects to reach wider audiences through promotions and word of mouth. But at the end of the day, documentaries and movies will capture the most audiences if they are authentic and feel like they come from people with a passion for the underlying narrative (38:00).


    Check out the show to hear more about Class Action Park, why Chris Gethard is a great comedian and storyteller (22:00), and to catch a glimpse into Seth’s next project (40:00).

    If you liked the show, please subscribe, and leave a review. You can also send us an email at podcast@edelson.com with any questions or for guest booking.

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    Website: https://www.edelsoncreative.com/#podcast
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    Twitter: https://twitter.com/EdelsonCreative
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/edelson-pc

    Connect with Jay:
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/jayedelson
    Edelson PC Profile: https://edelson.com/team/jay-edelson/

    Connect with Seth:
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/sethporges
    Website: a href="http://sethporges.com/"...

    • 42 min
    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 30: The One Where We Talk About Disrupting the Legal Industry with Sara O’Reilly

    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 30: The One Where We Talk About Disrupting the Legal Industry with Sara O’Reilly

    The legal profession is going through a period of disruption that is leading some firms to think creatively by bringing in non-lawyer executives and consultants to run their day-to-day operations. The vision of seasoned business executives can help many firms take it to the next level, while allowing lawyers to focus on what matters the most: practicing the law and getting significant results for their clients.

    In Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 30, Host Jay Edelson, nationally recognized plaintiff’s attorney and Founder of Edelson PC, and Guest Sara O’Reilly, Chief Executive Officer at HMB Legal, discuss what it’s like running a law firm as a non-lawyer, why firm’s need to professionalize their business operations, and why diversity is imperative to the long-term success of the legal industry.

    To start the show, Jay and Sara discuss recent efforts by forward-thinking law firms to bring in non-lawyer executives to oversee their business operations and usher in professionalization across all functions (3:20). To be successful in the legal profession, executives need to appreciate the history, talent, and culture of law firms so they can successfully implement long-term strategies (6:30).

    Next, Jay and Sara dive into the best ways to take law firms to the next level (10:40). Law firms, under the charge of seasoned executives and consultants, should approach their business operations with long-term strategies that work within the firm’s ecosystem (15:30). A key way to usher in these long-term changes is to spend considerable time and resources to train the next class of attorneys, staff, and future legal executives (30:00).

    Later in the show, Jay and Sara delve into why diversity should be a top priority for law firms—not only to better the legal profession, but also to bring in new voices to the practice of law (35:20). Firms must not take the approach that diversity is a numbers game, rather they must take a more holistic approach, including by recalibrating where they recruit summer associates and by exploring new ways to reach diverse candidates (36:44).

    To wrap the show, Jay and Sara discuss the recent trend of states opening up non-lawyer ownership of law firms and what the industry could look like over the next 5 to 10 years. (42:25). Such ownership and control, Jay and Sara explain, allows for a new type of thinking and increased competition within the legal profession that would further increase diversity of thought across the board.

    Check out the show to hear more about how firms benefit by bringing in non-lawyer executives (8:00) and why firms need a five-year plan to be successful (17:30).

    If you liked the show, please subscribe, and leave a review. You can also send us an email at podcast@edelson.com with any questions or for guest booking.

    Connect with us:
    Website: https://www.edelsoncreative.com/#podcast
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/edelsonlaw
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/EdelsonCreative
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/edelson-pc

    Connect with Jay:
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/jayedelson
    Edelson PC Profile: https://edelson.com/team/jay-edelson/

    Connect with Sara:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-o-reilly-7a8b9b1/
    HMB Legal Profile: a href="https://hmblaw.com/professionals/sara-e-oreilly/"...

    • 51 min
    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 29: The One Where We Discuss The SolarWinds Cyberattack With Edelson's Digital Forensics Director Shawn Davis

    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 29: The One Where We Discuss The SolarWinds Cyberattack With Edelson's Digital Forensics Director Shawn Davis

    The SolarWinds attack reminded everyone that the U.S. government, major corporations, and small businesses can all fall victim to sophisticated supply chain attacks. What went wrong and how can we limit the impact of the next attack?

    In Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 29, Host Jay Edelson, nationally recognized plaintiff’s attorney and founder of Edelson PC, and Guest Shawn Davis, the firm’s Director of Digital Forensics and leader of the firm’s tech investigations team, discuss the SolarWinds hack, vendor cybersecurity, geopolitical fall-out of cyberattacks, and what everyday companies can do to up their information security game.

    To start the show, Jay and Shawn breakdown the wide-scale SolarWinds hack that targeted major government institutions, Fortune 500 companies, and many other businesses throughout industry (4:05). The attack shows that even well-regarded vendors like SolarWinds are prone to nation-state cyberattacks due to the wealth of highly sensitive information and access their customers hold (7:25).

    Jay and Shawn continue their discussion on SolarWinds and why the attack highlights the potential dangers and risks of trusting third-party vendors (8:58). Shawn explains how the hack worked and how the attackers launched a broader attack through the Solarwinds updates, but then targeted specific valuable targets like Microsoft and the Department of Homeland Security for further compromise.

    Next, Jay and Shawn turn their discussion to the difficulties of attributing a cyberattack to a nation-state or any threat actor (12:00). Shawn explains that sophisticated nation-state attackers can easily mimic where the attack is coming from and often are familiar with the coding and hacking styles of other foreign adversaries. Shawn further divulges that human intelligence can be one of the best ways to figure out who is behind a foreign cyberattack.

    Later in the show, Jay and Shawn delve into why nation-state cyberattacks have the possibility of escalating into physical attacks that can disrupt the core of our national infrastructure (22:45). Jay and Shawn discuss that if such an attack happened, countries could escalate the situation to full-out kinetic warfare (26:20). That’s why many nation-states limit cyber-activities to gathering intelligence, steal trade secrets, and influence elections.

    To wrap the show, Jay and Shawn discuss why physical security – such as protecting laptops– is just as important as limiting online threats (31:35). The human element is important as many in the C-Suite often don’t follow the rules they set out for their own companies (34:45). Shawn further shares his best practices for any company trying to limit cyberattacks and why information security should always remain top-of-mind (37:35).

    If you liked the show, please subscribe and leave a review. You can also send us an email at podcast@edelson.com with any questions or for guest booking.

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    Website: https://www.edelsoncreative.com/#podcast
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/edelsonlaw
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/EdelsonCreative
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/edelson-pc

    Connect with Shawn:
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/sd24801
    Edelson PC Profile: https://edelson.com/team/shawn-davis/

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    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 28: The One Where We Discuss Overconfidence With Professor Don Moore

    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 28: The One Where We Discuss Overconfidence With Professor Don Moore

    From Lebron James to Barack Obama, confidence plays an important role in success. But there is a fine line between taking calculated risks based on your skills and ignoring the high-chance of failure that comes with every venture. That is why people must appreciate their level of confidence to better approach business decisions, negations, and the hiring process.

    In Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 28, Host Jay Edelson, nationally recognized plaintiff’s attorney and founder of Edelson PC, and Guest Don Moore, overconfidence and organizations professor at the UC Berkeley Haas School of Business” discuss overconfidence, how confidence plays a role in negotiations, and how to change the recruitment process to better, and more fairly, measure future success.

    Jay and Don first discuss how adolescence plays a role into how much confidence humans display (3:01). Don, the author of “Perfectly Confident,” shares that youth often struggle with confidence because they don’t know their place in the world and are unsure of their abilities to function as an adult (4:36).

    Jay and Don continue the discussion of confidence and how people need to make better bets with the skill sets they have (9:00). To limit the chance of being too-confident, people need to take a data-driven approach and weigh the risk of failure with the potential rewards of starting a venture or pursuing their dreams (13:00). The ultimate journey, career growth, and connections can all weigh in favor of being confident in a particular pursuit (15:23).

    Next, Jay and Don delve into how fraudsters and politicians can often tap into overconfidence to scam individuals (25:35). From former President Trump to the Music Man, fraudsters can often thrive because people often take others' displays of confidence as their potential for leadership. People must anticipate these risks and ask leaders to put up or shut up.

    Later in the show, Jay and Don break down how to successfully navigate negotiations and how overconfidence plays into the results of a deal (28:40). Don explains that putting incentives into a deal and making it more costly to decline is a good way to expose adversaries' misguided confidence. A good strategy, Jay explains, is to lean-in to people’s positions to get them to recalibrate their overconfidence for a better result for all parties (35:24).

    To wrap the show, Jay and Don explore the role confidence plays in recruiting and the difficulties in predicting the future performance of a candidate (37:55). Many companies get the hiring process wrong and need to restructure their interviews to focus on objective questions that focus on a candidate’s actual skills (43:17). Don explains that offering candidates a longer probationary period with financial rewards can better predict a candidate’s performance and screen out overconfident individuals (47:26).

    Check out the show to hear more about Edelson PC’s negotiation strategy (35:24); the firm’s recruitment process (44:35); and how people get entrenched in their own beliefs (50:10).

    If you liked the show, please subscribe and leave a review. You can also send us an email at podcast@edelson.com with any questions or for guest booking.

    Connect with us:
    Website: https://www.edelsoncreative.com/#podcast
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/edelsonlaw
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/EdelsonCreative
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/edelson-pc

    Connect with Don:
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/donandrewmoorebr...

    • 55 min
    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 27: The One Where We Lift the Veil on Legal Recruiting with Kelsey McCann

    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 27: The One Where We Lift the Veil on Legal Recruiting with Kelsey McCann

    The law school recruitment process is broken. Law schools don’t do enough to prepare law students for their dream jobs, and they continue to push Big Law as the safe choice. However, this is misguided, and law students need to take off their blinders once and for all.

    In Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 27, Host Jay Edelson, nationally recognized plaintiff’s attorney and founder of Edelson PC, and Guest Kelsey McCann, the firm’s Chief of Staff and recruiting director, Big Law’s Big Lie, and how law students can do a better job of getting their dream summer associate position.

    Jay and Kelsey first discuss how law schools aren’t preparing their students enough for the rigors of the summer associate recruitment process (4:18). Kelsey explains that law schools continue to push students to big law and do little to prepare them to apply for the jobs they want.

    Next, Jay and Kelsey dive into why Big Law is no longer the safe choice for law students entering the legal profession (7:27). Amid the pandemic, Big Law cut summer programs, associate salaries, or even pulled offers to come to their firms. Students should focus their efforts on finding the job they want because the plaintiff’s bar and public interest can be just as safe and more rewarding (9:01).

    The discussion turns to best practices for law students applying for their dream summer placement (15:37). Kelsey gives her insight into why many qualified applicants are often rejected due to not having substantive experience or because they didn’t do enough research into the firm. Law firms want creative and motivated associates, so putting in the extra work during the recruitment stage will pay dividends (19:34).

    Later in the show, Kelsey gives her tips for law students applying to Edelson PC and to plaintiff’s firms overall (22:20). Law students can’t approach interviews like a Big Law recruitment pitch and need to know exactly the kinds of cases and work a firm does on a daily basis (24:55). Students that spend time reviewing the firm website, doing legal news searches, checking dockets, and what awards a firm has won will be leaps and bounds ahead of their peers.

    To wrap the show, Jay and Kelsey talk about law firm diversity efforts and why the whole industry needs to do a better job at recruiting more women and BIPOC law students (27:36). Diversity and Inclusion are no longer efforts, but mandatory to operate in the legal industry.

    Check out the show to hear more tips on how to land your dream summer associate position.

    If you liked the show, please subscribe and leave a review. You can also send us an email at podcast@edelson.com with any questions or for guest booking.

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    Website: https://www.edelsoncreative.com/#podcast
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    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/edelson-pc

    Connect with Kelsey:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelsey-mccann-b45938159/
    Edelson PC Bio: https://edelson.com/team/chief-of-staff/

    Check out Kelsey’s Op-ed “Big Law Refuted,” which further explores Big Law’s Big Lie, law schools, legal recruiting, and how the whole system needs to change: a href="https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2021/02/03/big-law-refuted-plaintiffs-firms-offer-a-less-traveled-route-to-success/"...

    • 39 min
    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 26: The One Where We Talk Big Tech & Section 230 With Jeff Kosseff

    Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 26: The One Where We Talk Big Tech & Section 230 With Jeff Kosseff

    Section 230 and content moderation are hot topics in Washington amid calls for change to the tech liability shield. While some of these efforts come from a misunderstanding of Section 230, there is room for reform that could open the door to hold social platforms accountable.

    In Non-Compliant Podcast Episode 26, Host Jay Edelson, nationally recognized plaintiff’s attorney and founder of Edelson PC, and Guest Jeff Kosseff, professor of cybersecurity at the U.S. Naval Academy and author of The Twenty-Six Words That Created the Internet, discuss Big Tech regulation, Section 230 reform efforts, First Amendment protections, and digital anonymity.

    Jay and Jeff first discuss what Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act really means and why so many lawmakers and so-called experts get it wrong (5:10). Jeff says he supports some efforts to change the liability shield citing court rulings that say platforms don’t have to take down posts because of Section 230 (6:20).

    The discussion turns to former President Trump and the GOP’s efforts to repeal Section 230 (9:00). Jay and Jeff expose why these efforts actually harm the GOP’s arguments over conservative censorship and would lead to more aggressive actions by social platforms to block content (10:00).

    Jay and Jeff continue with their discussion on the GOP’s strategy against the Big Tech companies arguing that Republican arguments aren’t about legal strategy, but rather they are focused on politics (12:30). Jeff believes it's part of an effort to pressure Big Tech so they will do less moderation – something that is unlikely to happen after platforms doubled-down after the January 6th attack on our Capitol (14:30).

    Next, Jay and Jeff turn their attention to the judicial system and how the U.S. Supreme Court played a role in broadening Section 230 (20:00). Jeff discusses options for making it easier on people to have a chance against social platforms, including allowing limited early discovery.

    Later in the show, Jeff explains why so many people confuse First Amendment protections with Section 230 (34:00). The First Amendment doesn’t apply to private businesses and only restricts the actions of the government. On the other hand, the dominance of Big Tech platforms show that they could censor anyone if it’s a message they don’t believe in (37:30).

    To wrap the show, Jeff discusses his upcoming book United States of Anonymous Speech and how courts have created First Amendment rights to online anonymity (40:00). Jeff and Jay end the show by discussing the downside to anonymity and how to balance the need to mitigate real world harms it causes.

    Check out the show for even more from Jay and Jeff and for a preview of our upcoming animated rap video (0:55).

    If you liked the show, please subscribe and leave a review. You can also send us an email at podcast@edelson.com with any questions or for guest booking.

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    Website: https://www.edelsoncreative.com/#podcast
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    Twitter: https://twitter.com/EdelsonCreative
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/edelson-pc

    Connect with Jeff:
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/jkosseff
    Website: https://www.jeffkosseff.com
    U.S. Naval Academy Profile: https://www.usna.edu/CyberCenter/People/Biographies/Kosseffbio.php

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    • 48 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
54 Ratings

54 Ratings

podcastnurse53 ,

Exciting show that mixes law and pop culture

Really love the guests and the mix between legal topics and pop culture guests. Class Action Park episode is fantastic and really looking forward to who they’ll have on next.

modonohue64 ,

Wow!

Such fresh, fantastic insight and deep dives into relevant topics. Great podcast for legal practitioners and legal enthusiasts alike.

rswaj ,

Outstanding

Interesting topics; excellent host provides balanced perspectives. Well done.

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