The NOT REAL ART podcast celebrates creative culture and the artists who make it. NOT REAL ART is fresh, fun and inspiring. It contains material not suitable for pretentious art snobs. Guests include the world-class artists, designers and creatives who drive the $2T creative economy.
NOT REAL ART is hosted by L.A. based art world insiders Man One and Sourdough who bring their devil-may-care attitude to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for the contemporary art world, creative culture, and everything in between.
If you're an an arts professional or creative culture enthusiast, NOT REAL ART is for you!
Trauma and Creativity: How Artists Can Bounce Back From COVID-19
Whether we realize it or not, most of us have experienced some level of trauma over the past few years as we learned to navigate the fallout of COVID-19. As a result, we are changed people (and artists)—but what have we learned? How do we begin to process the impact of the pandemic? And where do we go from here?
By now, you’ve probably heard us mention smARTtalks, a series of intimate learning sessions covering relevant topics for artists and creatives working in the 21st century. On September 24, 2022, Crewest Studio—NOT REAL ART’s parent company—produced its first smARTalks event, held at Helms Bakery District in Culver City. In today’s podcast episode, we look back on an especially important discussion held during the inaugural event: “Who Are We Now? A Discussion About COVID, Trauma + Creativity. How Did The Pandemic Hurt or Help Us and Our Creativity?”
Moderated by your intrepid host, Scott “Sourdough” Power, alongside trauma experts Dr. Kim Cookson and Eric Weiss, this discussion centers on wellness in arts. “Whether we’re walking around traumatized—some people are, some people are not—but everyone is working under a new level of stress,” says Dr. Cookson. “They’re having to negotiate a new reality.”
Tune into today’s episode to catch some much-need discourse on the intersection of trauma and creativity, and how you can use art-making as a form of self-care.
In Today’s Episode:
Dr. Kim Cookson and Eric Weiss discuss…
The inherent trauma that comes with navigating COVID-19How artists were affected by lockdowns and isolationHow trauma can influence and impact creativityArt as therapy: how artists can use their creativity for self-careBudget-friendly ways to regulate and manage traumaHelpful therapeutic methods such as somatic therapyHow to promote activities that bring you joyTips for finding your “escape hatch” and focusing on the positiveThe silver linings in and around post-traumatic growth
For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/trauma-creativity
Lorne Buchman of ArtCenter: Moving ‘From Spaces of Uncertainty to Creative Discovery’
Creativity is rarely a “lightbulb moment.” In fact it usually arrives through a winding and non-linear process that involves self-understanding, improvisation, and a whole lot of uncertainty.
That’s the belief of today’s guest, Lorne Buchman, president emeritus of the ArtCenter College of Design in Pasadena, California. ArtCenter is known as a world-class leader in art and design education, with some even referring to it as the Harvard of art, design, and creativity. When Lorne took office in 2009, he quickly challenged students, faculty, staff, alumni, and trustees to redefine what a great art and design college should look like in the 21st century.
As the host of Art Center’s podcast Change Lab, Lorne interviews leading artists and designers to explore the ideas behind their work and discover how the creative process can act as a catalyst for change. In today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder and host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Lorne to discuss his recently published book, Make to Know: From Spaces of Uncertainty to Creative Discovery, which illuminates the long, winding creative process of today’s top artists, innovators, entrepreneurs, and designers.
Join us for today’s episode with Lorne Buchman as we unpack what it means to be a maker, what defines creativity, and how the creative process allows us to understand the world around us in new, exciting ways.
On Today’s Episode
Lorne Buchman discusses…
How he unpacks the four characteristics of “making”: uncertainty, material engagement, problem-solving, and improvisationWhy we tend to celebrate some forms of creative improvisation over othersExpanding the narrow definition of what it means to makeThe profound significance of democratizing creativityThe immense value of observation and collective engagementWhat the world would look like if “design thinking” were taught in K-12 educationHow the creative process opens up whole new ways of understandingHis tips for wrestling with failure and entering into uncertainty How sharing personal stories can help instill courage in young creativesWhy the act of making is just as important as the end product
For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/lorne-buchman
Michael Facchinello of Altamira: Integrating Art, Community, and Commerce
While there are a number of e-commerce platforms available to artists, there are very few—if any—that seek to integrate art and community and enable engagement between artists, buyers, art lovers, and critics too. Today, we’re joined by Michael Facchinello, who is the founder and CEO of Altamira, a unique community-oriented marketplace for artists.
Prior to Altamira, Michael spent eight years at Clique Studios, a top national design firm headquartered in Chicago. There, he started as a UX designer before transitioning into launching and managing new offices—but he felt compelled to create something meaningful that combined his tech expertise with his love of art. Altamira was born, offering artists the opportunity to gain recognition, sell their work, and become part of a thriving creative community. It allows art fans, commentators, and collectors to discover new artists, bringing them all together in an accessible space, all without the gatekeeping and snobbery often associated with the traditional art ecosystem.
In today’s episode, Michael shares his mission to democratize art and help artists make a better living by promoting their work and connecting them with buyers. We also discuss the importance of facilitating interaction, “growing the pie,” and appealing to a broad audience. To find out how Altamira is integrating art, community, and commerce, tune in to our fascinating conversation with its founder, Michael Facchinello.
In Today’s Episode:
Michael Facchinello discusses…
Why he decided to name his platform “Altamira”Altamira’s focus on facilitating community first, then commerceThe challenges of competing on crowded digital art platformsThe benefits of designing for both ends of the spectrum, from art experts to total novicesWhy anyone who is interested in art should be able to participate in the conversationThe need for more business models that empower artists to promote their workHow traditional gallery spaces don’t “grow the pie” for artistsWhy galleries are still an important part of the art ecosystemThe importance of democratizing art, from an individual to a societal level
For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/altamira
NiNo Alicea: Raising Climate Consciousness Through Art
Art has the power to make people think twice, change their perspectives, and heighten their consciousness around important issues. For Puerto Rican artist NiNo Alicea, the destruction caused by climate change is the most pressing issue of our time. In today’s podcast episode, NiNo chats with host Scott “Sourdough” Power about his mission to raise climate awareness through art.
“A lot of my art has become a vessel to create more climate change awareness,” says NiNo, who was deeply affected by Hurricane Maria, the near-Category 5 storm that roared across his home island of Puerto Rico in 2017. During this episode, NiNo explains how the natural disaster moved him to focus on art with a message about climate change.
Crafted from pizza pans and recycled metal, NiNo’s solar-powered installation for this year’s Burning Man (2022) was created in honor of Atabey, the Caribbean goddess of fresh water and fertility. In this week’s episode, you’ll hear about the challenges NiNo faced bringing this spectacular creation to life. “I’m the first Puerto Rican that has ever brought art to the Playa,” he tells NOT REAL ART. “I’m trying to inspire others; I don’t want to be the only one.”
Tune into our chat with the one and only NiNo, who shares his hopes and dreams for our future on planet Earth.
In Today’s Episode
Nino Alicea discusses…
The environmental and humanitarian crisis in Puerto RicoHow Hurricane Maria inspired him to change to focus of his workThe experience of creating “Atabey’s Treasure,” his 2022 Burning Man installationHow he designed the 18-foot sculpture from recycled materialsHis future plans for “Atabey’s Treasure”How he became the lead production designer for Ricky MartinHis upcoming tour with Ricky Martin and what the future holds for the coming year
For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/nino-alicea
Art World Horror Stories 2022
Halloween is right around the corner, which means we’re back with our infamous Art World Horror Stories series. We’re not talking about ghosts, ghouls, and goblins though—in today’s podcast episode, you’ll hear some truly terrifying tales from artists who brave the ugly side of the art world.
You’ll hear about malicious gallery owners, neglectful shipping companies, and one graffiti artist’s very stinky encounter on the streets of San Francisco. “It could happen to anybody,” muses host Scott “Sourdough” Power. “That’s what art world horror stories are about. That’s why we want to share them, because it could happen to you.”
Presented by NOT REAL ART’s parent company, Crewest Studio, Art World Horror Stories is a podcast about bad things that happen to good artists. In today’s crossover episode, we delve into the spine-chilling stories usually reserved for the spookiest podcast in Crewest’s network.
While we’d rather gobble down treats than suffer through tricks, these stories offer insight into some of the baddies you’ll encounter in the art world. So dim the lights and settle in with a mug of cider or a few fun-size Snickers—we’ve got a few stories to tell.
Got an art world horror story of your own? Call the NOT REAL ART hotline at 833-668-7325 and tell us about it!
In Today’s Episode
Scott “Sourdough” Power discusses…
Halloween traditions, updates, and new artists to check outThe red flags textile artist Jeanne F Jalandoni wants to warn other artists aboutWhy Los Angeles-based Linda Vallejo laughed when we asked for her art world horror storiesStreet artist Amanda Lynn’s gross-out encounter with poop while painting walls in San FranciscoThe perils of exhibiting your work outdoors, as detailed by collage artist Alexandra ChiouNeon artist Dani Bonnet’s experience with being scammed, and the financial pitfalls that followedHow you can learn from these scary moments and prevent them from happening to you
For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/art-world-horror-stories-2022
Victor ‘Marka27’ Quiñonez: How the Street Artist Controls His Creative Narrative
Victor "Marka27" Quiñonez is a phenomenal street artist working at the intersection of graffiti, contemporary art, and design. Blending elements of pop culture with Mexican and Indigenous aesthetics—a style he calls “Neo-Indigenous”—Marka27 creates vinyl toys, large-scale murals, and private commissions for major brands. His award-winning creative agency, Street Theory, activates communities and global brands through experiential marketing, bringing the vibrancy of art and street culture into all aspects of life and work.
On today’s podcast episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power chats with Marka27 about the power of controlling his creative narrative. “Imagine if the media pushed narratives that were uplifting, that were inspiring, that showed our people thriving,” the artist muses. “It would make somebody in a bad situation see themselves [differently].”
Scott and Marka27 also discuss the importance of family and faith, the tenuous balance between personal creative expression and paid work, and the artist’s dedication to the mentorship and support of formerly incarcerated creatives. Marka27 emphasizes his commitment to creating work that preserves culture and highlights the value of collaboration, advocacy, and upliftment, all of which form an intrinsic part of his practice. We also discuss the sometimes unsettling experience of belonging to more than one culture and how Marka27 authentically bridges these two worlds with his incredible work.
Ultimately, Marka27 refuses to let labels or titles define him. He believes artists have the power to control their own narratives, create with passion and purpose, and stay true to the causes they believe in. For more words of wisdom, as well as some actionable advice that you can implement in your own artistic practice, tune into our insightful conversation with Victor “Marka27” Quiñonez!
In Today’s Episode
How he took his practice from passion to full-time professionImportant lessons learned from working with brands in corporate AmericaHow to maintain your artist’s DNA, even when working with big brandsWhy he believes process is everything; there’s no “right”’ way to createBuilding partnerships that focus on complementary strengths and a common visionHow to positively impact struggling communities with uplifting narratives The importance of celebrating the work of BIPOC artists and activistsHis involvement with Right of Return, an organization that supports formerly incarcerated artists with mentorship and fundingThe root cause of many of mankind’s problems: division
For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/marka27
Great resource for art biz newbie
As an Art business newbie and I love this show. I always learn something and Scott does a great job pulling out the personal and professional insights from his guests. Nice work!
Great Experience, Great Opportunity, and So Much Fun to Make!
As a podcast-virgin, being apart of the makings of the podcast was a tremendous opportunity and experience. Sourdough was a great host, and we could go on and on. I am especially appreciative of the opportunity to speak about my art on a new platform that I will definitely be exploring! It felt like the conversation was seamless to produce and was conveyed to the audience in an easy-to-understand delivery when discussing art history. If I could do it again, I absolutely would! These podcasts are great for art learners and art-lovers alike, and I’m so glad to be apart of the Not Real Art family! :)
It’s like free art school!
Great podcast for anyone interested in working in the arts! Definitely a great selection of guests, art forms + processes discussed. A must-listen for any artist!