Over the Counter Podcast Mark Giszczak and Andrew Whaley

Mark and Andrew reunite in Colorado after months of separation and launch into a deep discussion of the stories we tell that make up our lives. In a nod back to Episode #2, they explore the narrativity of experience, the loss of story that can become a loss of identity, the problems with mobility and the lack of solid storytelling in contemporary family life. They talk about the value of journaling, letter-writing and keeping up on local news as well as the cultural import of local song-writing and story-making. Bedouins, autobiography and long-term frienships also make an appearance.

After a long hiatus, Mark and Andrew sit down to interview Billy Kangas, entrepreneur, master barista, liturgist and so much more. This episode was originally recorded as an "Over the Counter" takeover of Andrew's daily Counterposition show. The discussion covers Billy's community-based coffeehouse project called Cultivate, Billy's biography, his vision for re-engineering business for the sake of others, the cappucino as reflective of the Trinity, beer and Fr. Avery Dulles, emulsion, foam, and ancient Christian funerary practices.


Billy's links:
Cultivate: http://www.cultivateypsi.com/
Blog: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/billykangas/
Book: https://www.amazon.com/How-First-Christians-Changed-Dying-ebook/dp/B009ZNMGKU
Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillyKangas?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor




Music credit: Josh Woodward, "Go" from The Simple Life, Creative Commons License http://freemusicarchive.org/music/josh_woodward/

Mark and Andrew fly blind, taking an astounding series of spontaneous turns through digital community, analog Lent, Peyton Manning, the mystique of Apple, the social engineering of big Internet companies, government spying on us, their first Internet experiences, a paper world, and the public square

Mark and Andrew talk over what role sports really play in the lives of spectators. Baseball, football, and other sports impact the lives of those who watch, not only those who play. Andrew tells about his encounter with sports greatness. Mark relates what it is like to attend a game at Michigan stadium. They get into the ceremony, pageantry, and dogma of sporting events.

Mark and Andrew look back on what has happened for the past few months. Thdy discuss Andrew's new daily show, the Counter Position, his apostolate, Calix,  Andrew's famous customers, Mark's new YouTube channel - "Bible Broccoli,"  local culture vs. mass culture,  newspapers, how Google affects elections, Facebook's trending topics, Internet advertising, attention span, Steve Jobs, aliens, clickbait, Andrew's coffee shop consulting projects, movie night, Mark's new book, and wine shopping.Andrew's Daily Show: http://thecounterposition.com/ Andrew's Apostolate: http://www.missionsofhope.org/calix/Mark's Book: http://www.amazon.com/Light-Dark-Passages-Scripture-Giszczak/dp/1612788033Mark's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB39Tmz3WiZbIkNK1QxvSRw

Mark and Andrew dialogue about the nature of nature. What is nature? How do we relate to it? How has our relationship to nature changed since the dawn of the Industrial Age? What are the moral implications of modifying nature through technology? What does mastery over self and mastery over nature really mean?photo credit: pen waggener