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Racial Heresy is the show where two Episcopal priests, one black, one white, challenge you to make racial reconciliation as much a part of your spiritual practice as prayer, bible study, and communion. With every episode we bring a Christian lens to the racial issues of American Society and provoke you to do the same, in order to lead the Church in a deeper commitment to the Baptismal Covenant. Join us and become a racial heretic for this age!

Racial Heresy | Making Racial Reconciliation a Spiritual Practice Fr. Jabriel Ballentine & Fr. Cayce Ramey

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Racial Heresy is the show where two Episcopal priests, one black, one white, challenge you to make racial reconciliation as much a part of your spiritual practice as prayer, bible study, and communion. With every episode we bring a Christian lens to the racial issues of American Society and provoke you to do the same, in order to lead the Church in a deeper commitment to the Baptismal Covenant. Join us and become a racial heretic for this age!

    Election 2020 – Where is God? Where are YOU?

    Election 2020 – Where is God? Where are YOU?

    On the morning of November 4th, 2020, Racial Heresy went LIVE! For the first time ever, events were so pressing, the pressure so great, and the Spirit was moving so that we finally took to Facebook Live to process the results of the election (such as they were in that moment).







    Listen as we explore lament, courage, history, lethargy, guilt, shame, faith, hope, and Christ as part of our reactions to the presidential election as of 11:00am, 2020.









    https://youtu.be/5bWgO_1xUfA

















    Working toward Beloved Community.







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    • 39 min
    When Will We Start Listening?

    When Will We Start Listening?

    When will we start listening to God and when will we start listening to Black experience?







    If white people are serious about reconciliation, then we should one day find ourselves reconciling with white supremacists. If white people really listen to Black leaders, thinkers, friends, family members, clergy, organizers, writers, poets, musicians, theologians, historians, authors, and speakers, then our work will take us beyond ourselves and into the lives of others.







    But I Have Been Listening...







    Maybe you've been listening already. Maybe you've listened and read and listened some more. I have.







    I've listened to all manner of incredible preachers, professors, and mentors but if you looked at my life could you really tell? What impact have I allowed them to have? If I haven't changed, have I really been listening?







    How Can We Listen When We Haven't Done Our Work?







    We say we want Black leadership in the Church. We say we want to appoint and elect Black clergy and lay leaders to our boards. We say we want to have "diversity" that represents all of our church in all that we do. But are we willing to work for it? Are we willing to do the work that would make us safe to work with? Will we do the work that can move us beyond tokenism and trophies?







    White Comfort & "Safe" Black Leaders







    Or will we reenact what centuries of systematized power has taught us and gravitate to those we judge to be safe?







    Just like we do with God.







    What to Do When We Don't Repent?







    How long do we expect someone to stay in an abusive relationship? We never require someone to stay with a partner or parent or family member who harms them. When will we start listening to Black experience and believing Black people?







    How long will we expect Black people to stay in relationship with White America as we continue to do violence and show no sign of repentance?







    If We are Listening, Why are White Christians Still Here?







    It's a better question, in many ways, than "why are Black people still here?" Why are we still here? What is keeping us at the communion table with our siblings, sisters, and brothers whom we continue to hurt?







    What do we believe about God that lets us continue to approach the Altar of the Lord as if our siblings have nothing against us? How can we behave as if we're doing the best we can - when we're not. When will we start listening to God and to our neighbors?









    https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=umlNVo1Kj2I

















    Working toward Beloved Community.







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    • 22 min
    Murderous Intent – Jacob & Esau for 2020

    Murderous Intent – Jacob & Esau for 2020

    How should a person or a people respond when their sisters and brothers are trying to kill them? How can the church watch the murderous intent of white supremacy and our society continue everyday shielded by the law?







    Is separation, isolation, excommunication our only option?







    Jacob & Esau







    Jacob challenges Esau's identity. Jacob exposes Esau's flaws. Jacob shows Esau and the rest of the family how little the birthright means to Esau. So Esau wants revenge and Jacob is left with the choice to flee and live or stay and face the possibility of death at the hands of a powerful enemy-family.







    Jacob and Esau echo through the fears of 2020.







    White America has Sold Our Birthright







    Practical Theology teaches us that we can look at the actions of a people to see what that people actually believes. Looking beyond the stories we tell ourselves and the words we've written, what witness do we give by our actions toward our BIPOC siblings, sisters, and brothers?







    Do we believe in democracy? Do we believe in justice? Do we believe in Love? Do we believe in anything other than what works best for us; what gets me mine; what helps us feel secure?







    Do we believe in a God or do we believe in us?







    Esau Loses his Murderous Intent & Finds Beloved Community







    Somehow Esau's heart changed. Somehow he surrendered his murderous intent. Somewhere along the way, he discovered that life was more than material gain. Was it his total separation from his brother? What happened to Esau? What changed his heart?







    I wish I knew.







    We must continue to work for change - for our own hearts and in the lives of all of God's children. And we must continue to live in this world as we do. So we must embrace a level of accountability we've never seen before.







    We must listen to Black rage. We must overcome white fragility. We must accept the challenge to the identity we've built for ourselves. We must find and cherish the glimpses of Beloved Community we already have, nurture and care for them that they might take root and change the world.







    Esau must be changed.







    Jacob must find a home.









    https://youtu.be/aZbYe8tnX74

















    Working toward Beloved Community.







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    • 36 min
    Institutional Humility and a Strong Black Identity

    Institutional Humility and a Strong Black Identity

    Our churches, our communities, and our organizations need institutional humility as much as any of us as individuals need humility; and our churches, communities, and organizations must support strong Black identity as much or more than any one of us does on our own.







    But whose job is it within our institutions and how does a church behave with humility?







    Institutional Humility?







    White people, white institutions, and white power continue to operate from within our fragility, in part, because we create a world in which we never have to encounter a strong Black identity. Using money, structure, rules, and process we ensure our fragility encounters only encouragement and support, rather than challenge and confrontation.







    When will we not only allow ourselves to encounter a strong Black identity but also celebrate it, support it, encourage it, and to LISTEN to it?







    When will our church be willing to hear the Gospel proclaimed and understood by our siblings, sisters, and brothers who lives embody a strong Black identity?







    White power tries to force BIPOC people to choose between fundamental affirmation of the imgao dei in them and excommunication or even martyrdom.







    Layers of Violation and Identity.







    We are working against white supremacy but only the vitriolic kind. What about the gentile forms, the velvet glove covering the iron fist?







    What will it take for the white church to realize these traumatic layers? It's more than violence. It's more than history. It's more than violation of Black and Brown bodies. We are forcing people to present themselves within a narrow band of acceptable being in order to safely inhabit our spaces.







    Seeing our sin. Living with Discomfort.







    We have slashed the number of HBCUs we support. We work for the appearance of anti-racism rather than the substance. We try to prove we're good people and that we're better than "that."







    Yet when we encounter a strong Black identity, we immediately push back. We get defensive. We get offended. We cry. We enact compassionate displays of care and concern for Black mental health. We don't listen and let it change how we are.







    A Strong Black Identity in the Church?







    What could it look like if the white church stopped keeping Black organizations under the control of white budgets?







    What could it look like if the wealth our church built off of stolen land and stolen people was directed by and for the needs of Black and Indigenous people?









    https://youtu.be/AkGD0C_hWzo

















    Working toward Beloved Community.







    There is so much more to say and much more to discuss - come to the Racial Heresy group to be a part of the conversation.







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    • 30 min
    We Need a Way Where there is No Way

    We Need a Way Where there is No Way

    We need a way to justice, equality, but when white people try to "DO" the right thing, we take over. When white people try to just "BE", we hardly ever change enough to make a difference.







    But maybe this time is different?







    White people and white power are submitting to Black authority, right? We're showing up at Black-lead protests and trying to do what BLM and others want us to do for Black people, right?







    Except we still haven't truly accepted that not only are Black lives at stake, but also that white salvation may be in peril as well. In the midst of our periodic empathy with Blackness, while we've been trying to understand Black experience, we haven't stopped to examine how our own whiteness is keeping us and our communities from Beloved Community, from the Kingdom of God.







    We need a way to humility.







    Whiteness tells us that we always know something. Whiteness in our leadership, in our church, in our communities, in our politics and power structures, whiteness in our mythology and identity is keeping us from God. We need a fast from thinking we always know something useful to someone in every situation.







    And our problems go even deeper than that...







    We need a way to a new concept of God.







    Our very concept of God is wrong....and if our concept of God is wrong then there is no way forward for us. We are so afraid to confront our faith, to examine White Jesus, to risk losing what we have in the hope of finding something more.







    We need a way to confront our fears.







    We need a way out of whiteness into abundant life in Christ.









    https://youtu.be/z6H9jwXCom4

















    Jesus can make a way where there is no way. We can count it all as loss - all that we have and all that we've build and all that we believe ourselves to be - and find faith in our fear. We can find faith that points to the one who is just, the one who is love, the one who can bind us all together in Beloved Community.







    Working toward Beloved Community.







    There is so much more to say and much more to discuss - come to the Racial Heresy group to be a part of the conversation.







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    • 30 min
    White Supremacy & the Log that Blinds the Church Amidst Racial Discord

    White Supremacy & the Log that Blinds the Church Amidst Racial Discord

    The violence of White Supremacy continues on brazen public display...







    Leaders of government, of communities, of religious institutions are fanning the flames of racial discord.







    But with violence being brought to light and white people paying attention in new ways, even showing up in the streets, how can the Church be a voice for change?









    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWwSdysSrQ

















    We the Church - especially the liberal, progressive, conscientious White Church - like to call-out the shortcomings and failings of our public institutions, even some of our public leaders. As well we should. Isn't that the prophetic role of the Church?







    We want Black life to matter! We want to see change! We want to make a difference...







    ...but what are we really willing to do to help make that change a reality?







    What are we willing to recognize and excise in our own life, our own lives to help make that change a reality?







    What are we will to admit, expose, and confess in our selves and in our church to help make that change a reality?







    Admitting white supremacy in our relationships?







    Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, “Let me take the speck out of your eye”, while the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye. - Matthew 7:3-5







    What about "church" makes us willing to be silent about the behavior, attitudes, and impacts of our sisters and brothers while we denounce the same behavior, attitudes, and impacts in the world?







    What about our faith makes us willing to be silent? What about our God? Has white supremacy reached so far?







    How credible is our witness?







    We want to know, how can we, how do you (re)claim authentic Christian witness?







    What do you do to engage the people of your church? How do you bring sight to the blind amidst the revealing of racial discord in our country?







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    • 27 min

Customer Reviews

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14 Ratings

14 Ratings

trying2dobetter ,

Kudos to Fr. Ballentine, Fr. Ramey, & Dr. DiAngelo

Each of the Racial Heresy podcasts that I’ve listened to so far has been helpful, and this interview with the author of “White Fragility” is especially valuable — covering a lot of ground and giving practical pointers to ways of recognizing and then overcoming the racism / white supremacy that is as much a part of US history and culture as the Constitution.

I❤BCP ,

Amen!

Powerful conversation and ministry!! These are the kind of conversations that we need to be having in our lives!

Ipod RN ,

Intelligent Discussion

This podcast has made me look at race in a way I never have before.

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