Ryan and Brian's Bible Bistro

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Ryan and Brian's Bible Bistro

A podcast about the Bible, theology, and all things related to the Christian faith. Hosted by Ryan Sarver and Brian Johnson..

  1. The Unseen Realm: Part 1

    6D AGO

    The Unseen Realm: Part 1

    In this episode of Ryan and Brian’s Bible Bistro, the hosts dive into The Unseen Realm by Michael Heiser, focusing on Old Testament themes. Heiser’s “Deuteronomy 32 worldview” explores a divine council of spiritual beings (Elohim) surrounding God, distinct from polytheism. Key passages like Psalm 82:1, Genesis 6:1-4, and Deuteronomy 32:8 highlight rebellions (Fall, Nephilim, Tower of Babel) and cosmic geography, where Israel’s land is uniquely tied to Yahweh. Naaman’s request for Israelite soil (2 Kings 5) underscores this. Heiser’s framework, rooted in ancient context, clarifies “weird” texts but requires caution due to speculative elements. Part 2 will cover New Testament applications. Overview of The Unseen Realm Core Thesis: Heiser proposes a “Deuteronomy 32 worldview,” emphasizing a divine council of spiritual beings (Elohim) that God interacts with, distinct from polytheism.Heiser’s Background: His interest sparked as a PhD student when reading Psalm 82:1, which mentions God judging “among the gods” (Elohim, a plural Hebrew term).Writing Style: Heiser leans into “weird” or overlooked passages (e.g., Genesis 6:1-4), offering fresh interpretations grounded in biblical languages and ancient Near Eastern context.Audience Appeal: Engages readers unfamiliar with scholarly study through accessible writing, YouTube presence, and podcasts. Key Old Testament Concepts Discussed The Divine Council (Psalm 82:1) Text: “God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the gods” (Elohim).Explanation: Elohim can mean God or spiritual beings, depending on context. Heiser argues this passage depicts God surrounded by a council of spiritual beings (not gods in a polytheistic sense).Key Idea: God is unique, but other spiritual beings exist, serving advisory roles, not as equals. Heiser emphasizes, “There is no Elohim like Yahweh.” Deuteronomy 32 Worldview (Deuteronomy 32:8) Text: “When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance… he set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of God” (Dead Sea Scrolls/Septuagint reading).Context: Refers to the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11), where God divided nations and assigned spiritual beings (“sons of God”) to oversee them.Implications: These beings rebelled, leading to judgment (Psalm 82). This explains why nations worshipped other gods, tied to spiritual rebellion.Textual Note: The Masoretic Text reads “sons of Israel,” but earlier texts (Dead Sea Scrolls, Septuagint) support “sons of God,” a more difficult but likely original reading. Three Rebellions in Genesis Fall (Genesis 3): The serpent, a rebellious spiritual being, deceives humanity, opposing God’s plan for humans to rule the earth.Sons of God and Nephilim (Genesis 6:1-4): Spiritual beings (“sons of God”) intermarry with human women, producing Nephilim (giants), leading to increased wickedness and the flood.Tower of Babel (Genesis 11): Humanity rebels by building a ziggurat to reach the heavens, defying God’s command to spread out. God divides nations and assigns spiritual beings (Deuteronomy 32:8). Cosmic Geography Concept: The land of Israel is uniquely tied to Yahweh’s presence, distinct from other nations under rebellious spiritual beings.Example: Naaman’s Story (2 Kings 5:14-17):Naaman, a Syrian...

    50 min
  2. Was Jesus Nailed To The Cross?

    APR 24

    Was Jesus Nailed To The Cross?

    Overview: In this episode, Ryan and Brian dive into a recent Christianity Today article by Daniel Silliman that sparked controversy by discussing scholar Jeffrey Paul Garcia’s research suggesting Jesus’ crucifixion may not have involved nails. The hosts explore the article’s implications, the role of biblical scholarship, and the historical and archaeological evidence surrounding crucifixion. They also reflect on the importance of careful scholarship and its presentation to the public. Key Topics Discussed: Introduction to the Christianity Today Article Article by Daniel Silliman references Jeffrey Garcia’s research, which proposes that ropes, not nails, may have been used in Jesus’ crucifixion.Published around Easter, leading to a firestorm of responses due to its timing and implications.Ryan notes he heard Garcia present this paper at the Society of Biblical Literature (SBL) meeting in 2006, highlighting the slow dissemination of scholarly work. Context of Biblical Scholarship Ryan defines a scholar as someone deeply engaged in study, emphasizing that it’s not an elite category but a commitment to rigorous inquiry.Describes the SBL as a diverse gathering of scholars, including conservatives, nonbelievers, and others, studying Christian, Hebrew, and intertestamental texts.Contrasts how ideas are received in scholarly settings versus congregational ones, noting the skepticism scholars face at SBL. The Article’s Claims and Evidence Garcia’s argument: Nails are not explicitly mentioned in the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke), and some ancient sources suggest ropes were used in crucifixions.Ryan counters with literary evidence:John 20 explicitly mentions nail marks in Jesus’ hands (verses 25, 27).Luke 24:39-40 implies wounds in Jesus’ hands and feet, supporting the nail narrative.Archaeological evidence:Yohanan’s skeleton (found in Jerusalem post-Six Days War) with a nail in the heel bone, suggesting nails were used.Govello skeleton in Italy, another crucified individual with ankle damage.Nails were often reused due to the value of iron, explaining scarce archaeological remains.Ancient Roman inscription lists nails as essential for crucifixion, reinforcing their use. Response to the Article Christianity Today’s evangelical roots (founded with Billy Graham’s involvement) make the article’s publication surprising, as it was perceived to question scriptural inerrancy.Silliman issued an apology, admitting he didn’t consider John 20 or the impact on readers’ views of inerrancy.Ryan and Brian critique the article’s presentation in a popular outlet, which may lack the scholarly nuance needed for such claims. Historical and Archaeological Insights on Crucifixion Ryan references Martin Hengel’s book, Crucifixion in the Ancient World and the Folly of the Message of the Cross, which details the widespread use of crucifixion by Romans.Crucifixion was not just execution but public humiliation, often near roads for visibility.Variations in crucifixion methods:Crosses were likely lower than depicted in media.Shapes varied (e.g., capital T vs. small t).Some were crucified post-mortem for display.Example: Peter’s upside-down crucifixion per church tradition.Yohanan’s leg fractures were likely post-mortem, not evidence of crurifragium (leg-breaking to hasten death), as initially thought. The Role of Scholarship in Faith Ryan defends...

    46 min
  3. Malchus and the Return of Belief

    APR 15

    Malchus and the Return of Belief

    Episode Overview: Welcome back to Ryan and Brian’s Bible Bistro, where hosts Ryan and Brian dive into the Bible, theology, and all things pertaining to the Christian faith. Recorded during Holy Week, this episode explores the story of Malchus, the servant of the high priest, and discusses encouraging trends in Christian faith globally. From historical insights to modern revivals, Ryan and Brian cover it all with their signature wit and wisdom. Timestamps & Topics: [00:00 - 03:30] Introduction and BanterRyan and Brian kick off with playful banter about Brian’s “conversion” to the word “pertaining.”Setting the scene: It’s Holy Week, recorded the day after Palm Sunday, with Easter approaching.[03:30 - 06:00] Holy Week ContextBrian shares his busy schedule as a pastor, preparing for a unique Maundy Thursday service and Easter celebrations.The episode will cover two main topics: a biblical reflection for Holy Week and a discussion on current trends in Christianity.[06:00 - 28:00] The Story of MalchusFocus on Malchus, the servant of the high priest, whose ear is cut off during Jesus’ arrest in the Garden of Gethsemane.Examination of the account across all four Gospels:Mark 14:47: An unnamed person cuts off the servant’s ear; Jesus rebukes the action (Mark 14:48).Matthew 26:50-51: Similar account, with Jesus saying, “All who draw the sword will die by the sword” (Matthew 26:52).Luke 22:49-51: Adds that Jesus heals the servant’s ear, still unnamed.John 18:10-11: Names the servant as Malchus and the disciple as Simon Peter; Jesus commands Peter to put away his sword.Discussion on why details differ:Traditional view: Later Gospels add details for verisimilitude.N.T. Wright’s perspective: Gospel writers interacted, emphasizing different aspects.Scholarly insights from Richard Bauckham’s book (Jesus and the Eyewitnesses):Anonymity in earlier Gospels (Mark, Matthew, Luke) may have protected early Christians, like Malchus, from persecution.Naming in John could indicate safety or recognition of Malchus as a believer.Theories suggest Malchus became a Christian after Jesus healed him, supported by early church traditions.Criteria for authenticity:Multiple attestation (all four Gospels include the story).Criterion of embarrassment (Peter’s rebuke reflects poorly on him, suggesting authenticity).Connection to Holy Week: Jesus’ call to avoid violence and embrace a “cruciform life” of sacrifice.[28:00 - 50:00] Resurgence of Christian FaithThree encouraging studies highlight a revival in Christianity: UK Bible Society Report (The Quiet Revival): Interview with Dr. Rhiannon McAleer, Director of Research.Church attendance in England and Wales has grown, especially among Gen Z.Stats: Young men’s attendance up from 4% to 21% (2018–present), young women from 3% to 12%.Quote from Dr. Rob Barward-Simmons: Church offers meaning amidst mental health struggles, loneliness, and loss of purpose. Barna Group Study (US): 66% of U.S. adults report a personal commitment to Jesus, up 12% since 2021.Gen Z men show a 15% increase in commitment (2019–2025).David Kinnaman’s Faith for Exiles: “This is the clearest trend we’ve seen in more than a decade pointing to spiritual renewal.”Ryan Burge notes a plateau and slight decline in “nones” (religiously unaffiliated). Voice of the Martyrs Report...

    47 min
  4. The Book of Enoch

    APR 9

    The Book of Enoch

    Overview: In this episode of Ryan and Brian's Bible Bistro, the hosts dive into the intriguing world of First Enoch, a pseudepigraphical text that has captured the curiosity of many within and beyond Christian circles. Ryan and Brian discuss its origins, content, and significance while addressing common questions about its relationship to the biblical canon and its historical context. This episode offers a fresh perspective, including Brian’s first-time reading impressions, and aims to clarify what First Enoch is—and what it isn’t. What is First Enoch? Defined as a pseudepigraphical book, meaning it’s falsely attributed to Enoch, a descendant of Adam and father of Methuselah, who didn’t actually write it.Likely composed between the 3rd century BC and post-New Testament times, with parts dated to the intertestamental period.Fits the genre of apocalyptic literature, characterized by divine guides and supernatural narratives (e.g., similar to Revelation and Daniel).Genesis 5:24 highlights Enoch’s unique story: “Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, because God took him away,” sparking fascination as one of two Old Testament figures (alongside Elijah) not said to have died. Structure of First Enoch Comprises 108 chapters divided into five sections: Book of Watchers (Ch. 1-36): Focuses on fallen angels (sons of God) intermarrying with human women, producing the Nephilim (giants), and introducing evil via figures like Azazel.Similitudes of Enoch (Ch. 37-71): Explores angelology, the “Son of Man,” and divine judgment, with debated dating relative to the New Testament.Astronomical Book (Ch. 72-82): Details a solar calendar (364 days), contrasting with the Jewish lunar calendar, found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.Book of Dream Visions (Ch. 83-90): Recasts Israel’s history through animal allegory (e.g., sheep as the righteous, boars as adversaries), ending with the Maccabean period.Epistle of Enoch (Ch. 91-108): Offers exhortations, an “Apocalypse of Weeks,” and additional Noah-related content. Why the Interest in First Enoch? Answers curious questions left open by canonical Scripture, such as the identity of the Nephilim (Genesis 6) and the origins of evil.Referenced in Jude 14-15 (quoting 1 Enoch 1:9), and possibly alluded to in 1 Peter 3:19-20 and 2 Peter 2:4-5, raising questions about its early Christian reception.Included in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church’s canon (81 books total), with the only complete manuscript preserved in an Ethiopian language.Parallels in other texts like the Book of Jubilees and the Mormon Book of Moses fuel further intrigue. First Impressions and Observations Brian shares his initial reaction: First Enoch feels “wild” and disjointed compared to Scripture, lacking the Bible’s narrative continuity and spiritual coherence.Ryan notes its appeal lies in sensationalism (e.g., YouTube videos about hidden knowledge), but it lacks the authoritative character of canonical texts. Key Passages Explored 1 Enoch 20: Lists seven archangels (Uriel, Raphael, Raguel, Michael, Sariel, Gabriel, Remiel), expanding biblical angelology beyond Michael and Gabriel.1 Enoch 13:1-2: Enoch condemns Azazel for teaching humanity unrighteousness, casting him as a source of evil.1 Enoch 89:72+: Animal allegory depicts the rebuilding of Zerubbabel’s temple, critiquing its inadequacy.1 Enoch 40: Four archangels praise God, reminiscent of...

    56 min
  5. The Heart of Worship

    MAR 18

    The Heart of Worship

    Welcome back to Ryan and Brian's Bible Bistro! In this episode, hosts Ryan and Brian explore what worship really means. Inspired by the late '90s Christian song "The Heart of Worship" by Matt Redman, they discuss how worship is less about getting the form right—hymns, modern songs, or rituals—and more about the heart behind it. They start with a throwback to the "Worship Wars" of the '90s and a funny story from Ryan’s early days as a worship leader (spoiler: someone wasn’t thrilled about a missing hymn!). Then they dive into Scripture, beginning with Zechariah 7, where God questions the motives behind fasting, and moving through 1 Samuel, Isaiah, Micah, the Psalms, and Jesus’ run-ins with the Pharisees in the Gospels. The main point? God values a heart focused on justice, mercy, and humility over perfect religious routines. From Saul’s half-hearted obedience to the Pharisees’ rule obsession to modern debates over worship styles, it’s clear: worship should change us, not just be a task to complete. Ryan and Brian share personal takes too—covering Lent, the Lord’s Supper, and even Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups (no judgment on your snacks). They wrestle with balancing form and heart, asking: How do we keep worship meaningful without fixating on the "how-to"? Highlights: Why God asked, “Why are you fasting—or feasting?” in Zechariah Samuel’s blunt words to Saul: “Obedience beats sacrifice” Isaiah’s call-out: “Your sacrifices? Meaningless without justice.” Jesus shutting down the Pharisees with “I desire mercy, not sacrifice” Practical ideas on shaking up routines to refocus on God Join Us: If this episode hits home (or makes you rethink your playlist), share it with a friend! Reach out at thebiblebeeshare.com, follow us on Instagram or Facebook, or rate us on Apple Podcasts. We’ll be back next Tuesday—unless we mix it up to keep you guessing. Resources: Find recommended books at thebiblebistro.com See you at the Bistro!

    1 hr
  6. The Good Shepherd: Unpacking John 10 Through an Old Testament Lens

    MAR 11

    The Good Shepherd: Unpacking John 10 Through an Old Testament Lens

    Welcome back to Ryan and Brian's Bible Bistro! In this episode, your hosts Ryan and Brian dig into the rich imagery of Jesus as the Good Shepherd in John 10, but with a twist—they take a long, meandering path through the Old Testament to uncover the deeper context. From Genesis to the prophets, the shepherd motif isn’t just about care and comfort (think Psalm 23); it’s a complex tapestry of God’s faithfulness, human failure, and ultimate redemption. Here’s what’s on the menu this week: Shepherds in the Bible: Ryan and Brian explore how shepherds pop up everywhere in Scripture—literally with Abel, Abraham, and Jacob tending flocks, and figuratively with leaders like Moses, David, and even God Himself (Genesis 49, Numbers 27). Sheep Without a Shepherd: A recurring Old Testament theme (1 Kings 22, Ezekiel 34, Zechariah 10) reveals the chaos of God’s people under flawed human rulers—greedy, violent, and scattering the flock. Sound familiar? Jesus picks up this thread in Matthew 9 and John 10. God as the True Shepherd: Passages like Isaiah 40 and Jeremiah 23 show God stepping in where human shepherds fail, promising to gather His scattered sheep Himself. Spoiler: Jesus fulfills this in a big way. John 10 Unpacked: Jesus declares, “I am the Good Shepherd,” contrasting Himself with the “thieves and robbers” (greedy, violent leaders) who came before. Set against the backdrop of Hanukkah—the Feast of Dedication—this claim hits different, challenging even the heroic Maccabean legacy. Practical Bible Study Tips: Learn how to dig into Old Testament backgrounds to enrich your understanding of the New Testament. (Shoutout to Logos Bible Software for making it easier!) Ryan and Brian also share a hilarious real-life shepherd encounter from the Jesus Trail and reflect on how Jesus’ voice still calls us today—unlike the noisy distractions of false shepherds. Plus, a nod to 1 Peter 5, where church leaders are urged to shepherd God’s flock with care, not greed. Grab a coffee and join us at the Bistro as we connect the dots from ancient pastures to the eternal Shepherd who lays down His life for the sheep. Resources Mentioned: Check out Kenneth Bailey’s books, Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes and his work on shepherds, linked at thebiblebistro.com. Visit our website for show notes, past episodes, and book recommendations—your purchases through our links help keep the Bistro brewing! Connect With Us: YouTube: Ryan and Brian’s Bible Bistro Facebook: The Bible Bistro Website: thebiblebistro.com If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend and tune in next Tuesday for more tasty theological bites. Thanks for stopping by the Bistro!

    1h 4m
  7. Faith Over Sight: Spiritual Blindness and John 9

    MAR 4

    Faith Over Sight: Spiritual Blindness and John 9

    Show Notes: Faith Over Sight: Unpacking Scripture at the Bible Bistro Episode: Walking by Faith, Not by Sight Hosts: Ryan and Brian Date: March 03, 2025 Website: thebiblebistro.com Welcome back to Ryan and Brian’s Bible Bistro! In this episode, your hosts Ryan and Brian serve up a hearty discussion on what it means to "walk by faith, not by sight." With their signature bistro charm—real, unpolished, and full of heart—they dig into scripture, explore narrative storytelling in the Bible, and connect it all to our lives today. From the healing of the blind man in John 9 to Elisha’s angel armies in 2 Kings, this episode is all about seeing the unseen. Grab a seat and let’s unpack it! Opening Banter: The Bistro Charm Ryan and Brian kick things off with their usual laid-back vibe—no bloopers reel needed, just authentic charm. They tease the topic: Bible theology and all things Christian faith, with a focus on "walking by faith, not by sight." Main Discussion: Walking by Faith, Not by Sight Scripture Starter: 2 Corinthians 5:6-7 Text: "Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. For we live by faith, not by sight." Ryan’s Take: Living 2,000 years after Christ, faith means trusting the Bible’s truth without seeing Jesus firsthand—like leaning on the book in front of us. Brian’s Insight: Paul’s talking about trusting God for our eternal state, even when we can’t see it. It’s a funny spot to be in—betting our eternity on someone we’ve never met face-to-face! Deep Dive: John 9 – The Blind Man’s Story Text: John 9:1-38 (Healing of the man born blind). Key Moments: Verses 1-2: Jesus sees a man blind from birth; the disciples ask, “Who sinned—him or his parents?” (Reflecting the 1st-century Jewish view tying blindness to sin.) Verses 3-5: Jesus flips the script: “Neither… but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.” He’s the light of the world! Verses 6-7: Jesus spits, makes mud, sends the man to wash in the Pool of Siloam (“Sent”)—and he comes back seeing. Verses 13-15: Plot twist—it’s the Sabbath! The Pharisees grill the man: “How’d this happen?” Verses 24-34: The man sticks to his story—“He put mud on my eyes, I washed, now I see”—even as the Pharisees excommunicate him. Verses 35-38: Jesus finds him, reveals Himself as the Son of Man, and the man worships Him.Brian’s Narrative Lens: Why tell it this way? John withholds the Sabbath detail to pull us in—miracle vs. lawbreaker tension! The man’s consistent testimony, despite never seeing Jesus till the end, mirrors our faith today. Ryan’s Thoughts: The Pharisees can’t accept any explanation—sin or no sin, they’re stuck. The man’s boldness stands out. Big Idea: This story’s about seeing with faith—Jesus as the light, and us as witnesses, boldly sharing what He’s done, even without seeing Him ourselves. Connecting the Dots: More Scripture on Faith and Sight 1 Peter 1:7-9 Text: “Though you have not seen him, you love him… you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy.” Takeaway: Peter nails it—we love...

    48 min
  8. The Intermediate State: What Happens After We Die?

    FEB 25

    The Intermediate State: What Happens After We Die?

    Brian and Ryan have a conversation about a question many people wrestle with: what happens after we die? They acknowledge that it’s a heavy topic, especially for those grieving loved ones, and discuss common ideas about the afterlife—like the belief that the dead watch over us or reunite with family in another realm. While these ideas can be comforting, they question whether they align with what the Bible actually says. Looking at scripture, they point out that the New Testament often describes death as “sleep,” suggesting a temporary state rather than a permanent end. They highlight the emphasis on resurrection, explaining that, for believers, death isn’t the final stop but a step toward being raised and glorified in God’s presence. LinksSupport Ryan and Brian’s Bible Bistro Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thebiblebistro Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thebiblebistro Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebiblebistro/ Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3H7qRmg Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3I7Gw6A Website: https://www.thebiblebistro.com Ryan and Brian’s Bible Bistro is a podcast all about the Bible, theology, and all things related to the Christian faith.

    55 min
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