S. 8, Ep. 20: Interview with Crime Writer Michael Hearns The Crime Cafe

This episode of the Crime Cafe podcast features my interview with crime writer Michael Hearns.



Join us for a discussion of his Cade Taylor series and his other work as a technical consultant and movie producer.

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Debbi: Hi everyone. Today my guest is a Miami native who spent 27 years working as a South Florida police officer and detective. For a decade, he worked undercover investigating large-scale cocaine trafficking and high volume money laundering cases. He worked with multiple police and federal agencies and is a certified DEA instructor. He also has a Master's degree in Investigative Criminal Psychology. He has worked and consulted on multiple serial offender homicide cases, and since his retirement from law enforcement, he's worked as a technical advisor in film and television.

He is also a movie producer and an adjunct professor at multiple universities within the US, and he is the author of the Cade Taylor series of books, which I'm told is a completely new genre in the detective fiction realm—Dark Tropics. We're going to have to talk about that. It's my pleasure to introduce Michael Hearns. Michael, thank you for being here today. Thank you so much.

Michael: No, Debbi. Thank you. It's been a pleasure to be here to get a chance to meet you.

Debbi: Excellent. Well, it's great to meet you. So tell me about this Michael Cade. He sounds like an interesting character. He seems to be in a kind of a class all of his own with this weird agency or whatever he's with. Tell me about the fiction that you write in this series about him.

Michael: Yes. The fiction I write is based on a fictional character named Cade Taylor. He's a detective in Miami. He's assigned to the Vice Intelligence and Narcotic unit, which is kind of a covert undercover operation, and the first book I wrote was called Trust No One. That came out in 2020, and then that was quickly followed up by Grasping Smoke: A Cade Taylor Novel in 2021, and then last year we had One More Move. And basically these books chronicle the exploits of Cade Taylor as he tries to maneuver through some very sticky and unexpected circumstances involved in working in narcotics and money laundering, dealing with the Cali Cartel and Medellin Cartel. Also, just some nefarious subjects and people and things in Miami, which we oftentimes refer to as a sunny place for shady people. So,