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We tell the compelling stories behind cookbooks you won't get anywhere else. Featuring interviews with leading authors, we explore the art and craft of cookbooks, looking at both new and vintage cookbooks and the inspirations behind them … the compelling people who create them … and their impact on home cooks and the culinary world.

Salt & Spine Brian Hogan Stewart

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    • 4.5, 135 Ratings

We tell the compelling stories behind cookbooks you won't get anywhere else. Featuring interviews with leading authors, we explore the art and craft of cookbooks, looking at both new and vintage cookbooks and the inspirations behind them … the compelling people who create them … and their impact on home cooks and the culinary world.

    Sonoko Sakai // Japanese Home Cooking

    Sonoko Sakai // Japanese Home Cooking

    Sonoko Sakai is a writer and teacher based in California. Over the course of her career, she’s developed recipes, taught cooking classes, and written articles and cookbooks to promote Japanese food and culture. Her first cookbook—The Poetical Pursuit of Food: Japanese Recipes for American Cooks—was published in 1986, and her most recent, Japanese Home Cooking, features 100 recipes that get to the heart of accessible Japanese cuisine. 
     
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    • 48 min
    Jesse Szewczyk // Tasty Pride

    Jesse Szewczyk // Tasty Pride

    Jesse Szewczyk is a New York-based food writer and stylist with bylines in outlets from Food52, The Kitchn, Tasty, and Jarry. Jesse joined us to talk about his first cookbook, Tasty Pride, a compilation of 75 recipes and stories from the queer food community. June is Pride Month and we were thrilled to welcome Jesse to the show. In addition to bringing together queer voices for this cookbook, Jesse's publishers -- Clarkson potter & Tasty -- also made a $50,000 donation to GLADD on the book's publication. 


    We talk with Jesse about growing up in the Midwest, what it was like to work in restaurant kitchens and food media as a young, gay man, and the process of putting together this cookbook. 


    Jesse dedicates the book to "All the queer cooks who have longed to see themselves represented in mainstream food media." He writes: "We are in every restaurant, test kitchen, hotel, catering company, studio, and publication. This book and the stories within in prove that there is a seat at the table for all of us."


    In addition to Jesse, we're joined by other contributors to Tasty Pride, including food writers John Birdsall, Aaron Hutcherson, and Eric Kim — and we hear from some of our past conversations with queer authors Lazarus Lynch and Julia Turshen. 


    And of course we're featuring recipes from Tasty Pride -- find Von Diaz's Puerto Rican–Style Pimento Cheese and Ben Mims' Dry-Rub BBQ Chicken on our website.


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    Salt + Spine is produced by Brian Hogan Stewart and Madeleine Forbes. Our Kitchen Correspondent is Sarah Varney. Our original theme song was created by Brunch for Lunch. Additional music in today's show is "Spend My Life With You" by The Tall Pines (Free Music Archive). Thanks to Jen Nurse, Chris Bonomo, and The Civic Kitchen team and to Celia Sack at Omnivore Books.
     
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    • 44 min
    BONUS: Alison Roman & Where We Go From Here with food writer Alicia Kennedy

    BONUS: Alison Roman & Where We Go From Here with food writer Alicia Kennedy

    Note: This episode was recorded remotely.
    Food writer Alicia Kennedy joins us for a special bonus episode.

    Following cookbook author Alison Roman's interview with The New Consumer, there's renewed discussion on a number of ongoing issues in the food industry—in particular, disparities in whose voices are heard, who gets access to audiences and platforms. Of course, these challenges and conversations are not new; but the high-profile drama Alison Roman ignited when calling out fellow cookbook author Chrissy Teigen brought the issues to the forefront among a wider, more mainstream audience.


    Instead of focusing too much on the specifics of what transpired following Roman's interview, Salt + Spine producer Madeleine Forbes dialed up San Juan-based food writer Alicia Kennedy (author of the weekly newsletter From The Desk of Alicia Kennedy host of the podcast Meatless, which is on hiatus) to discuss some of the problems plaguing food media.


    If you missed the whole drama, Stained Page News editor Paula Forbes (subscribe to her weekly newsletter here) has a summary:


    In the interview, Roman criticized two Asian women (Chrissy Teigen and Marie Kondo) for having product lines before mentioning she was launching her own collection. (There were other criticisms, but I’m trying to be brief.) Over a series of tweets, Chrissy Teigen expressed her disappointment in Roman’s words…and also revealed she’s a producer on the show Roman mentioned in the interview. Roman tweeted her first apology. Teigen made her Twitter private. Roman issued a second, longer apology (click through IG above). Teigen made her Twitter public again and responds to the apology. There was also a lot of noise on Page Six.


    Additional reading:
    - "Alison Roman, the Colonization of Spices, and the Exhausting Prevalence of Ethnic Erasure in Popular Food Culture" || Roxana Hadadi, Pajiba
    - "Alison Roman and Chrissy Teigen’s feud is about more than selling out" || Alex Abad-Santos, Vox
    - "The rise and fall of Alison Roman" || Molly Roberts, Washington Post
    - "Alison Roman And The Problem With Not Giving A F*ck" || Kristin Wong, The Financial Diet
    - "Alison Roman’s comments about Chrissy Teigen and Marie Kondo lit a fire. Here’s why it’s still burning." || Lena Felton, The Lily
     
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    • 30 min
    Charlotte Druckman // Kitchen Remix

    Charlotte Druckman // Kitchen Remix

    *In response to travel restrictions and social distancing due to COVID-19, this week's interview was recorded remotely and not in-studio. Thanks for listening.*


    NEW YORK—This week, we're excited to welcome Charlotte Druckman to Salt & Spine, the podcast on cookbooks.


    Charlotte is a food journalist whose work has appeared in nearly every major food outlet — from Food & Wine to Bon Appetit to Cherry Bombe — and national publications like The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and more. She’s also the co-creator of Food52’s Piglet, the site's much loved (though now defunct) annual cookbook tournament.


    The compilation she edited last year — Women on Food, featuring 115 voices from the industry in a genre-fluid format — was recently nominated for a James Beard Award.


    Her latest cookbook — Kitchen Remix: 75 Recipes for Making the Most of Your Ingredients — couldn’t have come at a better time, as people spend more time in the kitchen. The “remix” concept takes three ingredients — many of them staples — and offers three suggested, and usually quite different, recipes using those items. Take the Zucchini/Pistachio/Mint chapter: starting off with a slow-cooked zucchini with ground pistachios, then you’ll find a raw minty-fresh zucchini salad with marinated feta, and finally an olive oil zucchini bread studded with fresh mint and pistachios.


    In today's show, we're talking with Charlotte about:
    - the path that took her from an art history student to a preeminent food journalist;
    - about how she came up with the idea for the Food52’s Piglet and then fell into a career as a cookbook author herself;
    - and about her work on gender in the restaurant and food media worlds.


    Plus, of course, we’re playing a game -- putting Charlotte to the Kitchen Remix test! And Paula Forbes, editor of Stained Page News, joins us to preview food memoirs being published this month. And we feature recipes on SaltAndSpine.com from Kitchen Remix.
     
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    • 1 hr 17 min
    Stacie Billis // Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner

    Stacie Billis // Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner

    *In response to travel restrictions and social distancing due to COVID-19, this week's interview was recorded remotely and not in-studio. Thanks for listening.*


    BROOKLYN, NEW YORK—This week, we're excited to welcome Stacie Billis to Salt & Spine, the podcast on cookbooks.
    Stacie Billis is a food writer whose award-winning blog, One Hungry Mama, was considered one of the first food blogs focused on parents and feeding your family. Stacie has also been the Founding Food Editor-in-Chief at the Cool Mom Picks network — and today, she shares her life, recipes, and tips as the "family cook" on social media.


    Stacie is also one of the voices behind the popular podcast, Didn’t I Just Feed You, a show about feeding families that she co-hosts with Meghan Splawn, Associate Food Editor for Kitchn.com. [Salt + Spine host Brian Hogan Stewart has joined the DIJFY podcast twice to talk cookbooks with Stacie and Meghan—be sure to subscribe to their show!]


    And of course, Stacie is a cookbook author — her first book, Make It Easy, focused on shortcuts using store-bought ingredients. And her latest, Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner, is all about how to harness the flavor and versatility of—you guessed it—chicken.


    In today’s show, we’re talking with Stacie about:
    - how a background in child development led her to career in food writing
    - the popularity of chicken — now the most consumed protein in the U.S., with the average American now buying 53 pounds, per person, per year — and some tricks for producing flavorful, juicy chicken dishes;
    - and about her foray into podcasting, which cookbook authors she turns to as a home cook, and more.


    And of course, we’re playing a chicken-themed game with Stacie at the end of the show — don't miss it!


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    Featured Recipes:
    - Chicken Parmesan Meatballs
    - Pineapple Chicken Salad with Green Beans and Toasted Coconut


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    • 40 min
    Meike Peters // 365

    Meike Peters // 365

    This week, we're excited to welcome food blogger and cookbook author Meike Peters to Salt + Spine, the podcast on cookbooks.


    Meike is the James Beard-winning author of Eat In My Kitchen and her latest cookbook, 365: A Year Of Everyday Cooking And Baking. And her latest work is exactly that: 365 new recipes to fuel a year of home cooking. Meike has been sharing recipes from her home kitchen in Berlin on her blog, Eat In My Kitchen, and on her Instagram since 2013.


    In today’s show, we’re talking with Meike about:
    - how she went from a music label to pursuing a food career;
    - the inspiration behind her work and how she approaches recipe testing;
    - and developing a full year of approachable, varied recipes for her latest book.


    Plus, of course, we’re playing a themed game with Meike – and we're featuring two recipes for her latest cookbook on saltandspine.com.
     
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    • 40 min

Customer Reviews

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135 Ratings

135 Ratings

Kayla Kozicky ,

Love these interviews

I love this podcast and always look forward to the very thoughtful and diverse conversations. Brian is a great interviewer and asks some of the best questions to get really great interviews out in the world.

etf1975 ,

Great cookbooks, great conversations

I’ve been listening to this podcast for about a year. It has probably cost me several hundred dollars in cook books, for which I am really grateful. Hearing the authors discuss the whys and hows behind their books is awesome.

kobgreen ,

Elegant and full of respect

I listen to a number of food related podcasts and this is definitely one of my favorites. Always conducted with the upmost respect and dignity. Great content and thoughtfulness. Keep up the great work!

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