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Welcome to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy with Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. A podcast that aims to deconstruct and demystify popular conspiracy theories. After 20 years exploring the world of Conspiracy Culture, we're taking our guests & listeners on a guided tour of the Rabbit Hole. Our mission? To discover where the truth lies. - Brent Lee is a former believer in the NWO/Illuminati Grand Conspiracy and was an activist in the Truth Movement from 2003-2018. Neil Sanders is an author covering True Crime and Psychology with a particular interest in the history of mind manipulation techniques.

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    • 4.3 • 24 Ratings

Welcome to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy with Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. A podcast that aims to deconstruct and demystify popular conspiracy theories. After 20 years exploring the world of Conspiracy Culture, we're taking our guests & listeners on a guided tour of the Rabbit Hole. Our mission? To discover where the truth lies. - Brent Lee is a former believer in the NWO/Illuminati Grand Conspiracy and was an activist in the Truth Movement from 2003-2018. Neil Sanders is an author covering True Crime and Psychology with a particular interest in the history of mind manipulation techniques.

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

    *The Nut Roast* - Cutting Through The Grime (Darren Grimes Dismantled)

    *The Nut Roast* - Cutting Through The Grime (Darren Grimes Dismantled)

    Cutting Through the Grime: Unveiling Darren Grimes’s Misinformation Campaign

    In this episode of "Nut Roast with Neil Sanders," host Neil Sanders dissects the controversial opinions and misinformation tactics employed by Darren Grimes on his GB News show, "The Saturday Five." Sanders provides a comprehensive critique of Grimes, shedding light on his dubious past, his connections, and his role as a mouthpiece for far-right propaganda.

    Darren Grimes might be a familiar name to viewers of GB News, but his journey in the political and journalistic landscape is riddled with controversy and contradictions. Originally an activist for the Liberal Democrats, Grimes shifted dramatically to support Brexit, working with organisations embroiled in the Cambridge Analytica scandal. Sanders describes Grimes as a "haunted ventriloquist dummy," emphasising his role as a puppet manipulated by hidden hands.

    In 2016, Grimes helped form BeLeave, a spin-off of Vote Leave, embroiled in the Cambridge Analytica scandal. The use of unauthorised data to influence public opinion is a dark chapter in the history of Brexit, and Grimes was fined for his involvement, although the fine was later overturned. Sanders points out the disturbing connections between Grimes and organisations keen on undermining public trust and manipulating voter behaviour.

    Grimes's transformation from a pro-EU activist to a pro-Brexit propagandist is stark. His association with the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) and the formation of Turning Point UK, closely connected to Koch Industries, underline his shift towards far-right populism. Sanders describes this transition as a career move akin to Darth Vader's, highlighting the moral and ethical questions surrounding Grimes's motivations.

    Grimes's current role as a presenter for GB News is seen by Sanders as part of a broader strategy to disseminate far-right propaganda. GB News, funded by think tanks and billionaires with vested interests, is depicted as a hub for bigotry and misinformation. Sanders's caustic humour and sharp critique expose the channel's amateurish and chaotic operations.

    The focal point of this episode is Grimes's defence of Nigel Farage's statements on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Farage's claim that NATO provoked Russia’s actions is vehemently supported by Grimes, despite being widely debunked. Sanders meticulously debunks Farage's statements and exposes them as Kremlin propaganda, reflecting a dangerous alignment with Russian disinformation tactics.

    Sanders provides critical historical context to counter the narrative pushed by Grimes and Farage. He explains that Russia’s aggression in Ukraine stems from long-standing geopolitical tensions, not NATO's actions. The annexation of Crimea in 2014 and subsequent military incursions are rooted in Russia's desire to control Ukraine, not NATO expansion as propagated by Farage and supported by Grimes on GB News.

    Grimes's performance as a presenter and his handling of the debate reveal his lack of knowledge and preparation. Sanders critiques Grimes's inability to engage meaningfully with complex geopolitical issues, instead resorting to deflection and obfuscation. This is emblematic of a broader trend of misinformation and shallow analysis prevalent in far-right media circles.

    Sanders doesn’t shy away from discussing the darker allegations against Grimes. The claims of persistent sexual harassment of a colleague and the notorious "crafty w**k" incident add to the sordid image Sanders paints. These allegations, true or not, contribute to the negative public perception of Grimes and highlight the ethical void in his professional conduct.

    "Cutting Through the Grime" does more than critique a single GB News segment; it delves deep into the mechanisms of far-right propaganda, the ethical failings of its proponents, and the dangers of misinformation. Sanders’s...

    • 43 min
    Comedy, Conspiracy & Current Affairs with Sooz Kempner

    Comedy, Conspiracy & Current Affairs with Sooz Kempner

    Hello initiates!

    We're excited to bring you a brand-new interview on the Some Dare Call It Conspiracy podcast! In this episode, we sit down with the multi-talented Sooz Kempner to unravel a tapestry of fascinating discussions. From environmental activism to conspiracy theories, and a deep dive into the entertainment industry!

    Key Highlights:





     *Environmental Activism*: Hear Sooz Kempner discuss her views on environmental activism and the public’s outrage at being mildly inconvenienced by Just Stop Oil’s protests. We also delve into the alarming issues of pollution in Britain’s rivers and the presence of forever chemicals in our water supplies.*Spotlight on Showbiz*: Sooz shares her journey in theatre, including her role in the play "Assassins" and her experiences with tribute acts. Get behind-the-scenes insights into the world of live performances, from jazz renditions to a possible West End production!*Conspiracy Theories Unravelled*: Join us as we explore an array of conspiracy theories, including 9/11, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and the mysterious Manson family. Sooz discusses her passion for debunking theories and facing off with conspiracy theorists.*Thoughts on Politics and Society*: We touch on the complexities of modern politics, including a deep dive into Boris Johnson's integrity (or lack thereof), and how satire and comedy intersect with societal issues. Plus, we discuss the impact of public figures like Elon Musk, Russell Brand and JK Rowling.

    Behind the Scenes Insights
    Neil Sanders shares intriguing details about the origins of conspiracy theories and the psychology behind them.Personal anecdotes from Sooz Kempner about navigating the ups and downs of social media, including shadow bans and negative comments.A humorous look into bizarre moments in showbiz and the quirks of certain comedians during the pandemic.
    Whether you're a fan of environmental activism, conspiracy theories, or the ins and outs of show business, this episode has it all. Tune in to hear Sooz Kempner's candid and insightful discussions with Some Dare Call It Conspiracy.

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    In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. 

    Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support.

    So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together.

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    Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon.

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    • 1 hr 33 min
    Unveiling Modern Conspiracies and Historical Truths with Otto English

    Unveiling Modern Conspiracies and Historical Truths with Otto English

    In this riveting episode of "Some Dare Call It Conspiracy," hosts Neil Sanders and Brent Lee sit down with Otto English to unravel the complex web of political maneuverings, historical misconceptions, and media influences that shape our contemporary world. This insightful conversation delves deep into the layers of influence, from dark money in politics to the perpetuation of historical myths and the rise of political entertainers.
    The Dark Money Influencing PoliticsOne of the most compelling topics discussed is the concept of "dark money." Large corporations funnel significant amounts of undisclosed funds into politics to steer policies and public opinion in their favor. This clandestine funding mechanism has far-reaching implications, influencing everything from healthcare reforms to deregulation policies. By highlighting this issue, the podcast underscores the urgent need for transparency and accountability in government affairs.

    Political Entertainers: The Rise of a New ClassThe conversation extends to the rise of political entertainers such as Lawrence Fox, Calvin Robinson, and Ben Shapiro. These figures have capitalized on the merging of entertainment and politics to spread their ideologies. Otto English criticizes this trend, arguing that it undermines serious political discourse and fosters a climate where racist and bigoted statements can be made without consequence. There's a call for regulatory intervention to curb these harmful narratives and restore integrity to political discussions.
    The Curious Case of Ancestry and MonarchyOtto English then touches upon the fascinating topic of ancestry and its implications. Highlighting how Boris Johnson and David Cameron discovered their royal lineage on the show "Who Do You Think You Are?", he suggests that almost everyone with one European ancestor in the last hundred years likely descends from historical figures like Charlemagne or King John. This revelation serves as a reminder that lineage and ancestry often carry unexpected connections and histories.
    The Inextricable Link Between History and MediaMedia representations of history can significantly influence public perception. The podcast discusses how movies, such as Oliver Stone's "JFK," perpetuate conspiracy theories and shape historical narratives. Otto English points out that while such films can be entertaining, they can also distort historical facts, creating misconceptions that linger in public consciousness.
    The Problem with Sudden ElectionsThe hosts delve into the reasons behind a prime minister calling a sudden election. This often perplexing political move may be motivated by a range of factors, from internal party dynamics to personal considerations, such as securing a family break in California. Understanding these underlying motivations can demystify political maneuvers that often seem abrupt and inexplicable to the public.
    Reflecting on Brexit and Its Ideological RootsA significant portion of the discussion focuses on Brexit and the ideologies driving it. Otto English highlights how Brexit was shaped by a nostalgic longing for a mythical British past and aristocratic interests. The conversation also touches upon the influence of American organizations like the Heritage Foundation on English think tanks, pushing for privatization and wealth accumulation. This ideological cross-pollination has profound implications for the UK's political landscape.
    The Fetishization of Historical FiguresThe podcast critiques the fetishization of historical figures such as Winston Churchill and John F. Kennedy. Otto English argues that this glorification often ignores the complex and multifaceted realities of these individuals. By oversimplifying their legacies, society perpetuates myths that can misinform and mislead.
    Prince Andrew and the Epstein ScandalThe conversation takes a critical turn as Otto English addresses the scandal involving Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein. He...

    • 1 hr 15 min
    Turning Chaos Into Comedy (Viz) The Barney Farmer Interview

    Turning Chaos Into Comedy (Viz) The Barney Farmer Interview

    Hello Initiates! Apologies for the delay, we've been experiencing some technical difficulties... it must be that pesky Illuminati trying to silence us! lol

    Anyway, thanks for your patience and support!

    Here is a brand new episode: Turning Chaos Into Comedy The Barney Farmer (VIZ) Interview

    In this insightful episode of "Some Dare Call It Conspiracy," host Neil Sanders chats with Barney Farmer, the creative mind behind iconic characters like the Drunken Bakers and Male Online. The conversation dives deep into the roots of his satirical work, the changing landscape of conspiracy theories, and the fine line between edgy comedy and offensive material.

    Male Online: Inspired by Reality

    Barney Farmer shares that the inspiration for his character Male Online came from reading the polarizing comments on The Daily Mail website. He observed older right-wing activists sharpening their skills online, embodying a raw, unfiltered form of social commentary.

    Drunken Bakers: From Pub Observations to Comic Strips

    Farmer recounts how experiences at a pub and a pie shop laid the groundwork for his despondent yet relatable characters in "Drunken Bakers." Despite the bleak environment of the north, the humor struck a chord with readers, blending wit with melancholy.

    Offering Meaning in a World of Uncertainty

    Farmer acknowledges that both religion and science provide meaning, despite their different approaches. Where religion fills the void of existential and moral queries, science offers explanations grounded in empirical evidence.

    Conspiracies: A Symptom of a Troubled Society?

    Farmer and Sanders explore the notion that conspiracy theories serve as a coping mechanism for those grappling with the chaos and unpredictability of the world. The comfort lies in believing that events unfold according to a grand plan, even if it's a nefarious one.

    Our conversation with Barney Farmer offers a kaleidoscope of insights into the intricate blend of humor, politics, and societal observations that define his work. From exploring the genesis of beloved characters to the nuanced navigation of conspiracy theories and modern societal dynamics, this episode provides a rich tapestry of thought and laughter, weaving together the many facets of Farmer's comedic genius.

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    In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. 

    Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support.

    So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together.

    🔥🦉🔥 - 

    Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon.

    www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy

    Or support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever you're listening to us!

    Please visit our website for all of our social media links, email address and various press clippings!
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    • 1 hr 45 min
    Somebody Told Me: Danny Wallace On Conspiracies (And Ghosts!)

    Somebody Told Me: Danny Wallace On Conspiracies (And Ghosts!)

    Hello Initiates! In this episode, we welcome comedian, author, and 'cult leader' Danny Wallace for a wide-ranging and captivating conversation. Wallace shares his insights on conspiracy theories, disinformation, the supernatural, his mysterious email correspondent from China and a surreal encounter with Gareth Icke. He also provides behind-the-scenes stories from his time producing the film 'Yes Man' with Jim Carrey and working on comedy projects like The Mighty Boosh. The episode explores the role of social media in shaping public opinion, the dynamics within conspiracy communities, and Wallace's latest book 'Somebody Told Me', which discusses personal stories and the impact of conspiracy theories.

    🔥🦉🔥

    In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. 

    Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support.

    So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together.

    🔥🦉🔥 - 

    Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon.

    www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy

    Or support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever you're listening to us!

    Please visit our website for all of our social media links, email address and various press clippings!

    www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com

    🔥🦉🔥

    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

    • 1 hr 29 min
    *The Nut Roast* - History Is Written By The Whiners (Neil Oliver Dismantled)

    *The Nut Roast* - History Is Written By The Whiners (Neil Oliver Dismantled)

    History is a lie agreed upon, and so is the present day when navigating the narratives of the internet's conspiracy crowd. But luckily we have a swathe of talking heads who are here to separate the wheat from the chaff, sift through the bullshit and amplify the white in the white noise. They are here to tell us the truth, no matter how unpalatable, bigoted and fallacious this might seem to reasonable or informed people. 

    In the USA they have entire networks dedicated to distributing this modern day two minutes of hate. It can be highly lucrative to wind up the credulous and furious, and these outlets namely The Daily Wire, OAN, Rebel TV, Turning Point and others do very well and have directed more people to the right wing than a stewardess during a crash landing. These outlets can loosely be described as purveyors of news, in the same way that a dirty protest can loosely be described as an example of elegant home decoration. 

    In the UK we have the propaganda Network GB News and Talk TV. They are very much the Robbie Williams to America’s Justin Timberlake in this regard, the Jim Davidson to their Dave Chappelle or the Scunthorpe united to their Dallas Cowboys. Essentially they do the same thing but with wildly different standards of aesthetics and with far less talent, charisma, skill and panache. The main through-line is a mixture of right wing and far right politics and performative outrage deployed through the lens of conspiracy and faux anti government sentiment.  

    But, as I believe Shakespeare once said, there are levels to this shit. If we think of Alex Jones and David Icke as top billing prize fighters slugging it out against the illuminati on a pay per view from Las Vegas, then people like Russel Brand, Laurence Fox and their ilk are a man killing rats with a hammer in a ring of hay-bales in the dimly lit back room of an abandoned warehouse in Kidderminster.

    🔥🦉🔥

    In the last few years we have seen a significant rise in the belief of conspiracy theories. From the dismissal of facts as fake news to the full embrace of conspiracy theories by politicians and commentators, we face an uncertain future. Democracy is under attack and our open and free societies are in danger due to a dangerous mind virus. Conspiracism is the new pandemic. 

    Our new project, Tin Foil Confessions, is not just a podcast and book; it's a beacon of hope for those lost in the maze of conspiracism. It's a story of redemption, a guide back to reality, and a testament to the power of change. But to bring this project to life, to reach more people and make a greater impact, we need your support.

    So, we ask you, join us in this fight against the pandemic of misinformation. Help us illuminate the path for those seeking truth and clarity. Donate to https://www.tinfoilconfessions.com today and let's build a future grounded in reality, together.

    🔥🦉🔥 - 

    Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to AD FREE episodes, exclusive Patreon only episodes, bonus content and an invitation to our private Discord server by joining our Patreon.

    www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy

    Or support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever you're listening to us!

    Please visit our website for all of our social media links, email address and various press clippings!

    www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com

    🔥🦉🔥

    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

    • 54 min

Customer Reviews

4.3 out of 5
24 Ratings

24 Ratings

74cb400f ,

Love it

The perspective of people who have escaped the insanity of deep conspiratorial thinking never gets old. Keep up the good work. Cheers.

Jimmy Schafer ,

this is the good conspiracy content that I’m always looking for

Found these guys while searching for recent chemtrail content and boom! They came to first and I’m hooked!

Jaseoner82 ,

Neil Sanders provides good research, Lee uses bad faith rhetorical arguments

This show is only one in a group of semi-new debunk style counter propaganda podcasts. Most likely funded by the DNC to push against anything that goes against the narrative. There’s some really good stuff on Cambridge Analytic. I’m not a fan of insulting groups of people then pretending it’s for their own good.

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