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Welcome to the Spooky Sconnie podcast, the show that talks about the spooky, paranormal, criminal, and just plain odd Badger State. While we're known for sportsball and food, there's a lot more to learn about Wisconsin if you know where to look.

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Welcome to the Spooky Sconnie podcast, the show that talks about the spooky, paranormal, criminal, and just plain odd Badger State. While we're known for sportsball and food, there's a lot more to learn about Wisconsin if you know where to look.

    10: The Disappearance of Georgia Jean Weckler

    10: The Disappearance of Georgia Jean Weckler

    Content note: murder, sexual assault
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    Everyone and their BFFs confessed to the abduction and murder of Georgia Jean, but her disappearance remains unsolved over 70 years later. If that wasn't enough to bring out the feels, I'm in the middle of a surprise divorce!
    Also! The True Crime Podcast festival is this Saturday, July 13, at the Marriott Downtown, right on the magnificent mile. There are over 80 true crime podcasters coming - including True Crime Obsessed and even me!
    This is a full-day event, and gives you a chance to meet your favourite podcasters in a large-scale meet-and-greet, with several panel discussions and live episodes too. Come hang out! To find out more and join the almost 400 people who have bought tickets, head to tcpf2019.com or look for it on social media. I can't wait to see you there!!
    Resources
    Family weebly site
    WTMJ4 story from 2017
    2013 story
    Charley project page
    Missing children from Wisconsin
    Missing children nationally
    Transcript
    Please note this is a rough transcript due to time limitations. I'll come back and fix it!
    Welcome to the most belated episode of the Spooky Sconnie podcast thus far. This is the podcast that seeks to dive into everything from Wisconsin, from the true crime and paranormal stuff to cryptids and just wonderfully weird Wisconsin history. And I'm your host, Kirsten Schultz.
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    It's been a minute, a couple minutes, several weeks. Um, I owe y'all an explanation. If you don't already follow the social media channels for the podcast, then you probably haven't heard because I'm s**t at posting on the Pod Bean, a app on its own, like updates. Um, but I am in the middle of getting a divorce and it's not necessarily a hundred percent amicable on my side, but it's kind of a surprise divorce for me at least. So it's been a rough couple of weeks and I needed to take some space, stepped back from a couple of things to take care of myself and, um, you know, dive in with all of my energy to finding a new place, which I have found one. Um, I signed the lease today and I move in, um, in about two weeks, a little less. Um, and my goal is hopefully by the beginning of August to be fully moved into that new place and, um, hopefully be putting out some more regular episodes, between now and then. It might be a little funky. Yeah. Not sure schedule wise, what's going to work. so far I've gotten basically almost everything that I own in our apartment up into our loft space, which was like my office anyway. Um, and I'm sleeping on a Futon, which is not great for my chronic illnesses and my back and so many things. Um, but you know, have to do what we can do till we can do better I guess.
    Um, yeah, so like I said, episodes will probably be infrequent until, mm, Probably middle of August or something like that. Um, so this will be the kind of the last episode for a couple of weeks again, but, uh, I'm hoping to kind of like plunge into late summer slash fall, um, deeply and really be able to have more time set aside to doing research too. Um, you know, finding new things to talk about and um, being a lot more present for all of you. So I appreciate you guys sticking in there with me and hanging in there. Um, and you know, things will get better and it'll be good. It'll be fine. I'm, I'm going to be fine. Um, I'm just going to keep repeating that until it's the thing. So, um, part of why I'm releasing this episode on a day different than what I normally would do, um, is because the Saturday is the true crime podcast festival in Chicago, um, at the Marriott downtown on magnificent mile.
    So please make sure you come. I will be there. I have goodies to give away and to sell, um, including buttons and bottle openers or jars. Oh gold. I keep using mine. It's amazing. It's also magnetic, which I discovered by accident, but like in a good way. Um, I also have a piece of original art th

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    9: The Beast of Bray Road

    9: The Beast of Bray Road

    Content note: animal mutilations with details
     
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    This week, I'm covering the Beast of Bray Road - just like Em from And That's Why We Drink did during one of their live shows here in Madison this week. I'd totally planned it already, so the coincidences are the best. What do you expect from the two coolest theybes?
     
    Resources
    Wikipedia
    Did Legend Hunter just solve the mystery of the Beast of Bray Road and add new theories on Dogman and Chupacabra legends?
    14 Facts About the Beast
    Prairie Ghosts
    Historic Mysteries
    Linda Godfrey's site
    PBS video
    Isthmus article
    The Bray Road Beast on Amazon Prime
    Script transcript

    Transcript
     

    Welcome to episode nine of the Spooky Sconnie podcast, the podcast that covers everything fun from Wisconsin, from the criminal and the paranormal to the just plain weird. I'm your host, Kirsten Schultz. And on this edition we're covering a story I got to see live this week actually, um, this week, the wonderful podcast And That's Why We Drink was here in town. And I went and saw them both nights. They were performing at comedy on state, on state street here in Madison, and it was a really great time. Um, I love Em and Christine, the two of them are just hilarious, and it's always fun when I get to see them and say hi. So I really enjoyed that and they covered some cool stuff that I'll be bringing up soon. Um, although I guess, you know, really they covered two stories I've already done too, which is kind of cool.
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    Um, and that's probably my husband's fault, but I won't get into that. But, uh, no, I, I love And That's Why We Drink. I love Em and Christine and, and it was great fun to be able to see them this week. Um, and one of the stories that Em covered actually was the beast of Bray Road. So I was already planning on doing it for this week's episode and it just pushed me to do it even more. Em did a really great job and I'm not going to be able to live up to the amazing, amazing humor that they injected into the story. But I'll try.
    Before I get started, just another reminder that the um, true crime podcast festival in Chicago is coming up on July 13th. That is a Saturday. It is a one day deal and yours truly, we'll be there. I will have some goodies for sale, and you might even just be able to win some of them. So, you know, come the tickets aren't that pricey. Come hang out. There's a lot of other great podcasts that will be there too. Um, and it'll be a great time. I know, I'm really excited to see True Crime Obsessed the night before - they have a show which the tickets are already sold out. I'm so sorry for bringing it up, but, um, I'm really excited to be able to go listen to them, cover a story and enjoy them in person to the true crime and paranormal podcast world is kind of amazing and it's really fun to, uh, to be able to, to meet people and see how they hone their craft. So, so there you go. Make sure to put that on your calendars and come hang out with me in Chicago and while you're there, pickup Do Rite Donuts because they're f*****g amazing. They have Vegan and gluten free options to just saying I am not in any way sponsored by them, but every time I go to Chicago I get so many donuts and now I just wish I had donuts. It's way too early to be functioning without donuts. Um, so yeah, so as I said, we're covering the beast of Bray road today, which is pretty exciting.
    This occurs in and around Elkhorn, Wisconsin, which is about 40 to 50 miles depending on where you mark it, south west of Milwaukee. It's located in Walworth county and it's basically the biggest city in the county. So it's the county seat is where like the county court house is all that kind of stuff. But despite being kind of the main city in that county, it's still pretty small town, still pretty Homey, which is kinda fun. So Bray road itself is more traveled now than it used to be.
    Um, it's

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    8: The Witches of Whitewater and the Morris Pratt Institute

    8: The Witches of Whitewater and the Morris Pratt Institute

    Content note: mention of suicide, anti-semitism
    In this week's belated episode, I talk about the witches of Whitewater, the Morris Pratt Institute, and how traditional views of what's 'weird' shift throughout time. Don't forget to check out the True Crime Podcast Festival in Chicago. Look, I know it's not until July, but it was SNOWING today and I need something to look forward to in my new older age.
    Photo of the Morris Pratt Institute from Wisconsin Historical Images
    Resources
    Second Salem
    Whitewater college paper on hauntings
    Spine-tingling tales from a weird site
    Roots of Whitewater's witch lore
    Whitewater Historical Society on the Morris Pratt Institute
    WPR piece on the MPI
    MPI site
    In Frightening Times, Witchcraft Rediscovers Its Political Roots
    You can’t control the government—but you can hex it
    Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
    Intimate photos of modern-day witches across America
    9 Myths About Witchcraft That Modern-Day Witches Like Me Are Tired of Hearing
    Anti-Semitic Legends
    Why Do Witches Wear Pointy Hats?
    Transcript
    Welcome to another edition of the Spooky Sconnie Podcast, the podcast that talks about everything, wonderfully creepy, spooky, criminal, and weird in the state of Wisconsin. I'm your host, Kirsten Schultz. And before we dive in to today's very interesting topic, I do just want to remind everybody that I will be at the true crime podcast festival in Chicago that's coming up in July on the 13th. It's a Saturday, it's just the one day, but it's like all day. We did get some more details that um, there's going to be a meet and greet portion of the event with a kind of a relaxed atmosphere and that podcasters are going to be around in the main hall, um, so that you can come meet with us and hang out. So you know, come hang out. The website for that is tcpf2019.com and you can get your tickets and see all the cool stuff going on. I apologize for this episode being late. Um, yesterday was my birthday and I chose to go get drunk and eat a hamburger instead of recording my podcast. But also I have just started a new full time job and my schedule's been a lot busier because of that and because of some of the other volunteer stuff I'm doing. So I just didn't have time to record. I mean I probably did, let's be honest, but I didn't really.
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    So, um, for today's episode we're going to be talking about the witches of Whitewater and as I was digging into this, it's really interesting and it's part of why I do a lot of research on the topics I'm covering because if you just kind of take a cursory Google search, um, things you'll find are, you know, like haunted stories of, of people relaying information from another person about like the campus of UW-Whitewater or being haunted and things like that. And a lot of that stuff is actually not entirely true - surprise. And so what I'm going to be talking about today is more about not only, you know, things that are supposedly haunted but also debunking some of the other issues like I do.
    In the late 19th century, whitewater began being referenced to as the Second Salem and why water is really interesting because it's about an hour from both Milwaukee and Madison. So it's a little bit more south of both of those cities. Um, and it's right at the edge of the kettle moraine state forest. So there's kind of a lot of greenery and a lot of stuff that's already kinda spooky. Anyway, so the tales about Whitewater being haunted popped up. Um, as I said, it was the late 19th century - the late 1800s hundreds - and that was about the same time that the Morris Pratt institute was built in town. The institute was known for Teaching Spiritualism, and that was a really popular belief during the 1800s and incorporated things like seances and mediums and a lot of the spooky stuff we discuss today, Ouija boards, et Cetera.
    So there were regul

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    7: Gaylord Nelson, Earth Day, and A Racism

    7: Gaylord Nelson, Earth Day, and A Racism

    This week, let's talk about the father of Earth Day! He did a lot of great stuff - like pushing for side effects to be listed with medications - and preached some racisms. Why do people suck so much?
    Resources
    Wikipedia
    Nelson Earth Day
    Founding of Earth Day
    Death-related article
    95 speech on Earth Day
    Is the way we think about overpopulation racist?
    I’m an environmental journalist, but I never write about overpopulation. Here’s why. (Roberts)
    Environmentalism’s Racist History
    Perpetuating neo-colonialism through population control: South Africa and the United States
    Is Thanos Right About Killing People In 'Avengers: Infinity War'?
    Featured image from NASA
    Transcript
    Welcome to another edition of the Spooky Sconnie Podcast, the podcast that talks about everything, spooky paranormal, and weird in the state of Wisconsin. Since it's April, I thought that it would be remiss of me to not discuss the founder of Earth Day and the actual founding. And it was created by a Wisconsinite naturally. His name was Gaylord Nelson and he was born on June 4th, 1916 in a city called Clear Lake. Um, it's located up in Polk county which is kind of the upper north western corner of the state and it's about an hour away from Minneapolis. Nelson's father's parents - so his parental grandparents - were immigrants from Norway who moved to the area in 1878 and I couldn't find much about his maternal grandparents, but his mother was a nurse. Um, at least she completed the training to do that, but she spent most of the time kind of at home, spending time with the kids, that kind of stuff.
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    She taught Nelson a lot about the natural landscape and the world around him - while Nelson's father who was a doctor and very politically active, taught him about political life. And this reminded me a lot actually of college in an interesting way. Um, one of my history professors in college who I love, uh, we had a course on feminism in history and we talked a lot about the two spheres of the world in about the same time period. You had the domestic sphere, which was the realm of the woman who, you know, cleaned house and all of that. And then you had the public sphere, which was the realm of the man who did all of the outward things and voted and all that crap. So I had, this was a really clear cut example of that, which was interesting. In the time period we're talking about Clear Lake was not a great space to be in. There was a lot of pollution. Um, there was a lot of poverty. Of course, we're talking leading up to the Great Depression, which was not great anywhere, but especially in kind of tiny towns and rural areas. The Great Depression, you know, brought a lot of itinerant workers to the area. Um, a lot of people got grumpy about itinerant workers and not only was there an uptick in just general assholery, um, there was a lot of racism, a lot of extra bigger tree going on. And, and it's not exactly xenophobia because that's not, it's not exactly what this is what you can have people coming in from other spaces that are not your own space, I guess for lack of a better word xenaphobia is what was going on.
    Um, a bunch of the county's farmers actually went on strike in 1933 and it forced the local creamery to close down, which I think was interesting. Um, the works progress administration launched a bunch of projects in the region to do things like build roads, take care of wetlands, built the town's first sewer system, you know, things like that. Um, and Gaylord Nelson actually took a job shoveling stone on one of the crews, um, right after graduating from high school in the mid 1930s. And not only was it a lot of hard work, he also really didn't like the fact that he contributed to disturbing and destroying a lot of really beautiful natural habitats in the area and ruining fresh water in the name of progress. And that kind of pushed him to go

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    6: Forest Hill Cemetery in Madison

    6: Forest Hill Cemetery in Madison

    In this episode, I give an update in the Jayme Closs case before going on to cover the history of one of the coooooolest cemeteries in Wisconsin - Forest Hill in Madison. Come learn about the northernmost Confederate cemetery, effigy mounds, and some willllddd history - oh, and make sure to visit the FB page for pics!
    Resources
    Jayme Closs Today show snippet
    Patterson guilty plea
    Forest Hill wiki
    Parks page
    Haunted Madison
    Forest Hill Cemetery guide
    Confederate Rest removed
    A Biographical Guide to Forest Hill Cemetery: The Ordinary and Famous Women and Men Who Shaped Madison and the World (Amazon)
    This Podcast Will Kill You
    Transcript
    Welcome back to the Spooky Sconnie Podcast - the podcast that talks about everything, spooky, funky, criminal and weird in the state of Wisconsin. Before I dive into this week's topic, I wanted to give an update because I'm recording this right now on Wednesday the 27th and that means Jake Patterson who abducted Jayme Closs and killed her parents in October of 2018 was just arraigned and pled guilty to charges. So I wanted to talk a little bit about that before I dive into today's topic. Upon entering the court, he was crying and sniffling as he answered the judge's questions. He pled guilty to the three charges against him, which was killing Jayme's father, killing Jayme's mother, and then kidnapping Jayme. Um, the murders bring with them a life sentence while the kidnapping charge could be up to 40 years. So he's basically facing, um, two life sentences and an extra 40 years.
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    It seems as though from what I've read, that he struck a plea deal in this case, which means that, um, no other charges during the time that he had Jayme in his possession will be brought up as well as he won't be charged with armed burglary, which was part of this as well. So, um, for people wondering if Jayme had undergone any sexual violence with him, we still don't know. My guess is, again probably, but at this point they don't want to put her through talking about that. And I would say rightly so. Um, he, as I said, pled guilty to all those three counts and will be sentenced on May 24th. As he was being led out of the court, he said "bye, Jayme." She was not in the courtroom. I, I'm sure that he wants to think that she's watching, but her family has been shielding her from basically all of the coverage around this case.
    Over the weekend of the 16th here, um, he had a call with WCCO, which is, um, uh, a local news station, I believe out of Minneapolis with one of their reporters that also made the Today Show. And I wanted to give a little bit of an update about that. Um, he said that he knew he wasn't supposed to talk to the reporters but he didn't care. Um, and that he doesn't want to cause any more harm, which to be frank, I think talking to the reporters and basically coming into people's living rooms is causing more harm. But that's just me. He talked about that he wants to talk to her [Jayme] but knows he can't. He loves her. Um, which, uh, Gail on the today show mentioned after the, um, snippet about this aired that she hoped that Jayme's family and people that she was close with were still shielding her from, um, the news and, and making it so she wasn't watching things like the Today Show when the stuff will randomly pop up because of how jarring that could be.
    And, um, I think that was rightly so. And, and just as an Fyi, I have linked to the youtube video of this news snippet. Um, Gail is laughing at the beginning of it because they were talking about something funny in the previous segment. She's not laughing about this. There were a lot of youtube comments - context, people. He - Patterson - said that while he had Jayme in his custody, they spent time talking about stuff, playing games, watching TV and cooking and that just about everything that they ate was home, home cooked. Um, obviously as

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    5.5: Jeffrey Dahmer, Part 2

    5.5: Jeffrey Dahmer, Part 2

    Content note: animal abuse, murder, rape, sexual violence, torture, necrophilia, child molestation, drug use and misuse, cannibalism, gross details of so many things, sanism, and ableism.
    Photo: Dahmer's sketch of his body altar, courtesy of Oxygen.
    Even thought part one wasn't even an hour, I wanted to be rid of Dahmer as quickly as humanly f*****g possible, y'all. So, part 2 is almost two hours long... but we don't have to talk about it anymore.
    This episode starts right as he moves into the notorious apartment on North 25th Street. For the early stuff, make sure to listen to the first episode.
    Resources
    Wiki
    Biography
    Crime Museum
    Inside the Mind of Jeffrey Dahmer: Serial Killer’s Chilling Jailhouse Interview
    1991 Vanity Fair piece
    Jeffrey Dahmer Trial Victim Impact Statement Highlights (video)
    5 Of The Most Shocking Moments From The Jeffrey Dahmer Trial
    9 Mind-Blowing Quotes Made By Serial Killer Jeffrey Dahmer
    Dahmer on Dahmer Sneak Peek from Oxygen
    2 Servicemen Reveal Their Stories Of Being Sexually Abused By Jeffrey Dahmer
    These Are The Chilling Crime Scene Photos From Jeffrey Dahmer's Apartment
    Stone Phillips interview
    Murderous Minds: Inside Serial Killers S1E7 on Amazon Prime
    All the other links I said I'd include
    Study Shows Mentally Ill More Likely to Be Victims, Not Perpetrators, of Violence
    True Crime Obsessed - Episode 40: Kidnapped For Christ
    Bruce McArthur (Toronto serial killer)How alleged Toronto serial killer Bruce McArthur went unnoticed
    Toronto serial killer destroyed gay safe space
    Grad student claims she tipped off police to serial killer a year ago
    The sad predictability of Toronto’s alleged serial killer

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    Transcription
    Welcome back to the Spooky Sconine podcast. This is the podcast that covers everything that is paranormal, criminal, spooky and just plain weird from the state of Wisconsin.
    This is the second episode in the Jeffrey Dahmer Series. If you haven't listened to the first one, go back and catch that because there are going to be some things I talk about in here that I explained in the first episode. And also like you wouldn't watch the last half of the movie, right? Like, go listen to the first one.
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    When we last left Jeffrey Dahmer, he had just convinced a judge he was going to change his ways after molesting a child. Let's rejoin him a year later, shall we? On May 14th, 1990 Dahmer moves out of his grandmother's house where he had had to move back into it, because of the molestation charge and having just gotten out of jail and all that jazz. He moves into apartment 213 at 924 north 25th street and takes any momentos he'd kept from his previous victims, including the mummified head and g******s of Anthony Sears. Within one week of moving into his new apartment, he had already killed his sixth victim. Raymond Smith was a 32 year old sex worker who Dahmer lured to his apartment with the promise of $50 in exchange for sex at the apartment. He gave Smith a drink laced with seven sleeping pills and manually strangled him. The following day, Dahmer purchased a Polaroid camera with which he took several pictures of Smith's body in suggestive positions before dismembering him in the bathroom. This all becomes a very major part of his M.O. and, with very few exceptions, this is what he tends to do with the rest of his victims from here on out.
    He boils the legs and arms and also the pelvis in a steel kettle with Soilex, which allows him to then rinse the bones off in his sink. He dissolves the remainder of Smith's skeleton with the exception the skull in a container filled with acid. Dahmer later spray paints Smith's skull, and he places it alongside the skull of Anthony Sears upon a black towel inside a metal filing cabinet.
    About a week later - and it's on or about May 27th - Dahmer lures a young man to his apartment but he f***s up. Um, you know how he spikes the

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Customer Reviews

PearKa33 ,

Well researched WI podcast

Thanks for starting this podcast, Kirsten! You’ve covered interesting cases, and I love your storytelling style. I hope to say hi at TCPF next month!

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