13 episodes

Hello and welcome to SUX - The Sustainable UX Podcast, the podcast for designers, UX people and digital product builders who want to make an impact for a sustainable future. We are Bavo and Thorsten and we are two of the founding members of “SUX - The Sustainable UX Network”, a non-profit initiative and community, that drives sustainable and responsible UX based on the UN SDGs in various ways.
With the SUX Podcast we invite you to meet wonderful people from around the world and to get inspired by their way of trying to save the world through and within UX, Design and Tech.

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Hello and welcome to SUX - The Sustainable UX Podcast, the podcast for designers, UX people and digital product builders who want to make an impact for a sustainable future. We are Bavo and Thorsten and we are two of the founding members of “SUX - The Sustainable UX Network”, a non-profit initiative and community, that drives sustainable and responsible UX based on the UN SDGs in various ways.
With the SUX Podcast we invite you to meet wonderful people from around the world and to get inspired by their way of trying to save the world through and within UX, Design and Tech.

    SUX EP 12 - "Life-centered Design" with Damien Lutz

    SUX EP 12 - "Life-centered Design" with Damien Lutz

    You probably have heard of life-centered design or non-human personas. But, have you applied it to your work already? 

    For this episode we were joined by Damien Lutz from Sydney, Australia, one of the most prominent voices and drivers of life-centered design as well as the author of the “Life-centered design guide” and the “Non-human persona guide”. 

    We discussed the problems of nowadays design, how we need to change the way we design from being destructive to being sustainable and regenerative. We spoke about non-human personas and if apples mother nature video is a good thing or not.

    So, if you want to hear more about life-centered design, non-human personas and how to apply it. And if you want to learn about Damiens journey into the world of life-centered design, join us for this episode of the SUX Podcast.



    Connect with our guest or us:



    Damien’s Channels:



    Damiens Websites:

    https://lifecentred.design/

    https://futurescouting.com.au/



    Damiens Book “Life-centred Design Guide”: https://lifecentred.design/the-life-centred-design-guide/



    Damiens Book “The non-human persona guide”: https://lifecentred.design/non-human-personas/the-non-human-persona-guide/



    Damiens Book “Future Scouting”: https://futurescouting.com.au/design-guide-book/



    Damien’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damien-lutz-36230515/



    Sources from the episode:



    Book „Super Nature“ by Lyall Watson: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/525843.Supernature 



    https://ecograder.com/ 



    https://sustainablewebdesign.org



    Articles by Monica Sznel: https://medium.com/@unpacking.design



    Book “Design for the real world” by Victor Papanek:

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/190560.Design_for_the_Real_World



    Our Channels:



    Bavo's Linkedin 

    Thorsten's LinkedIn 

    Isabel's LinkedIn 



    SUX Slack Community 

    SUX LinkedIn 

    SUX Website



    Email us at podcast@sustainableuxnetwork.com to share your feedback or suggest future guests.

    • 58 min
    SUX EP 11 - Bonus: "Someone You" with Xhensila Reci

    SUX EP 11 - Bonus: "Someone You" with Xhensila Reci

    This is a special bonus episode: It is Part 2 of our interview with Xhensila Reci. In the previous episode we spoke with Xhensila about Purpose Driven Design and its relation to Sustainability (--> Link). In this bonus episode we do the friendship book and speak about Xhensilas way into UX and to LEGO and we play together her wonderful card game “Someone You” (--> Link) to learn more about each other. 

    It is the first time that we split an interview into two episodes. But since the whole conversation with Xhensila was just wonderful and super insightful, we decided that we did not want to cut anything out. 

    If you haven’t heard part 1 of the interview yet, we recommend you listen to it first: SUX EP 10 - “Purpose Driven Design with Xhensila Reci” https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/suxpodcast/episodes/SUX-EP-10---Purpose-driven-design-with-Xhensila-Reci-e2dpmeo 



    Connect with our guest or us:

    Xhensilas Channels:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xhensila/ 

    Xhensilas Website: https://www.xhensilareci.com/

    Xhensilas Card-Game “Someone You”: https://www.xhensilareci.com/shop/someoneyou 

    Xhensilas Talk about Purpose Driven Design at at WUC 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZAURrbVmM4&t=4s&ab_channel=WorldUsabilityCongress⁠





    Sources from the episode:

    Book “The Atlas of the Heart” by Brené Brown: https://brenebrown.com/book/atlas-of-the-heart/



    Our Channels:

    Bavo's Linkedin 

    Thorsten's LinkedIn 

    Isabel's LinkedIn 

    SUX Slack Community 

    SUX LinkedIn 

    SUX Website

    Email us at podcast@sustainableuxnetwork.com to share your feedback or suggest future guests.

    • 48 min
    SUX EP 10 - "Purpose driven design" with Xhensila Reci

    SUX EP 10 - "Purpose driven design" with Xhensila Reci

    Today we have something very special for you. Finally here it is: the lost episode. Last year we recorded this wonderful and extra long episode with Xhensila Reci from LEGO to speak about Purpose Driven Design. For several reasons, we did not manage to cut it and to decide if we should keep it this long, re-cut it, or make two episodes of it. Since the whole conversation with Xhensila was just wonderful and super insightful, we decided that we did not want to cut anything out. The SUX friendship book was super insightful and we also played Xhensilas wonderful game “Someone You”. 

    So, this interview became the first episode that consists of two parts. This part - Part 1 - contains the main conversation, where we spoke about purpose driven design, Xhensilas work at LEGO and how it strongly connects to purpose driven design. 

    Part 2 will be released next week as a bonus episode that contains the SUX Friendship Book and also the part where Xhensila and Thorsten play Xhensilas wonderful card game “Someone You”.

    So, if you want to learn how to do, achieve and drive purpose driven design, about working at LEGO and why a Banana played an important role in Xhensilas journey into UX and purpose driven design, do not miss this episode as well as the bonus episode.

    One little side note: we had a few minor audio issues with Thorstens audio track in the beginning. We apologize for that. And no worries, it will be gone after a few minutes. 



    Connect with our guest or us:



    Xhensilas Channels:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xhensila/ 

    Website: https://www.xhensilareci.com/

    Xhensilas Card-Game “Someone You”: https://www.xhensilareci.com/shop/someoneyou 

    Xhensilas Talk about Purpose Driven Design at WUC 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZAURrbVmM4&t=4s&ab_channel=WorldUsabilityCongress⁠





    Sources from the episode:

    Book “The Atlas of the Heart” by Brené Brown: https://brenebrown.com/book/atlas-of-the-heart/



    Our Channels:

    Bavo's Linkedin 

    Thorsten's LinkedIn 

    Isabel's LinkedIn 



    SUX Slack Community 

    SUX LinkedIn 

    SUX Website



    Email us at podcast@sustainableuxnetwork.com to share your feedback or suggest future guests.

    • 54 min
    SUX EP 09 - Live: “Collaboration & cooperation as key for sustainability”

    SUX EP 09 - Live: “Collaboration & cooperation as key for sustainability”

    SUX Podcast Live Episode: this is a recording of the panel discussion about “Collaboration & cooperation as key for sustainability” at the SUX Focus Event 01

    A few weeks ago we launched our new event series: SUX Focus Events. The main idea of focus events is to collect a group of experts to discuss and deep dive into a certain topic in a panel discussion.

    In this first event we were spotlighting "Cooperation & Collaboration", a theme vital to sustainability and core to SUX Network's mission. And it led to a very inspiring and interesting conversation that we want to share with you here in the podcast.

    Join the panel and follow the inspiring conversation Bavo and Thorsten had with:


    Helle Martens - UX Research Consultant and Founder/Host of the UX Copenhagen Conference from Denmark
    Akos Csertan - Impact-driven digital product design expert and Founder of Atlas, Rise! from Hungary
    Laura Korčulanin - Regeneration Consultant and Founder of Give a Shit from Portugal
    Robert Kozma - Emeritus Principal Scientist and Book Author of “Make the World a Better Place” from the US



    And stay tuned: The next SUX Focus Event will take place in January/February 2024 and touch the topic “Sustainability and AI”.



    Connect with our guest or us:

    Helle’s Channels:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helle-martens/ 

    UX Copenhagen: 20./21. March 2024 https://uxcopenhagen.com/

    Lauras Channels:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurakorculanin/ 

    Sustainable UX/UI Design eBook: https://lp.ironhack.com/sustainable-ux-ui-design-ebook 

    Website “Give a Shit”: https://www.giveashitnow.org/ 

    Akos Channels:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csertanakos/ 

    Website: https://atlasrise.io/

    Roberts Channels:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-kozma-ph-d-26b7278/

    Website: https://www.design-a-better.world/

    Book “Make the world a better place”: https://www.design-a-better.world/book-teaser 



    Our Channels:

    Bavo's Linkedin 

    Thorsten's LinkedIn 

    Isabel's LinkedIn 

    SUX Slack Community 

    SUX LinkedIn 

    SUX Website



    Email us at podcast@sustainableuxnetwork.com to share your feedback or suggest future guests.

    • 1 hr 7 min
    SUX EP 08 - "World Usability Day and a Usability Revolution" with Elizabeth Rosenzweig

    SUX EP 08 - "World Usability Day and a Usability Revolution" with Elizabeth Rosenzweig

    What has hiking in common with World Usability Day and Sustainability?

    In this episode we were joined by Elizabeth Rosenzweig, the founder and director of the World Usability Day. We spoke about how World Usability Day started, why it has a strong relation with Sustainability from the very beginning and what its relation to World Earth Day is.

    And why hiking? When you go hiking in the wilderness there is one important rule: leave no trace. The question is, how do we design to leave no trace, to cause no more harm?

    We discussed how UX and design need to change and how some of our design paradigms need to change and how we can bring this topic to the UN. Further we spoke about why collaboration and cooperation is the topic for this years WUD and even more, why it is an important basis for sustainability.

    We also discussed mental health as part of sustainability, the rough times for the design communities nowadays in terms of layoffs and how we can navigate through.

    In the end we got down to the core: the problems of capitalism and narratives that are driven by business people only - but also what we could or should do to work towards more balance here.

    And we came up with an idea for a global joint workshop of World Usability Day Initiative and the SUX Network we might do in the beginning of 2024. Stay tuned.

    If you want to learn about how World Usability Day started and why it is strongly connected to Sustainability or how we could and should tackle the big challenges nowadays with and in design and why we need to get the UN involved, tune in to this episode of the SUX podcast.



    Elizabeth’ Channels:

    LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethrosenzweig/⁠

    Elizabeth’ Website: ⁠https://designresearchforgood.org/⁠ and ⁠http://www.bubblemtn.com/⁠

    Elizabeth’ Book “Successful User Experience: Strategies and Roadmaps": ⁠https://shop.elsevier.com/books/successful-user-experience-strategies-and-roadmaps/rosenzweig/978-0-12-800985-7⁠ 

    Website World Usability Day: ⁠https://www.worldusabilityday.org/⁠ 



    Our Channels:

    Bavo's⁠ Linkedin⁠ 

    Thorsten's⁠ LinkedIn⁠ 

    Isabel's⁠ LinkedIn⁠ 

    SUX⁠ Slack Community⁠ 

    SUX⁠ LinkedIn⁠ 

    SUX⁠ Website⁠



    Email us at ⁠podcast@sustainableuxnetwork.com⁠ to share your feedback or suggest future guests.

    • 1 hr 13 min
    SUX EP 07 - "Cyborg-Centric Design" with Akos Csertan

    SUX EP 07 - "Cyborg-Centric Design" with Akos Csertan

    How do we design for a world that is no longer a world shaped by humans but non-human agents like corporations or the capital in general? Human centered design was created for the Anthropocene, and therefore falls short on the challenges of a post-anthropocene world. 

    For this episode we met Akos Csertan from Budapest to discuss the challenges for design to solve the urgent problems of today as well as how design has to change to solve the problems of the future. 

    We talk about Akos Design Principles for a Post-Anthropocene world and his idea of cyborg centric design. Because we are so stuck to our smartphone - does not make this us all cyborgs already? 

    If you want to learn more about designing cyborg centric and hear why the children's book “Momo” from the 70s is the perfect metaphor for nowadays, tune in to this episode of the SUX podcast.



    Connect with our guest or us:

    Akos Channels:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csertanakos/ 

    Akos’ Website: https://atlasrise.io/

    Akos’ talk at interaction 23: https://interaction23.ixda.org/sessions/design-for-the-capitalocene

    Cyborg Centric Design: https://www.cyborgcentric.design/

     

    Sources from the episode:

    Book: “Momo” by Michael Ende

    Book “Design as Politics” by Tony Fry

    Book “What Things Do” by  Peter-Paul Verbeek

    Book “Hyperobjects” by Timothy Morton



    Our Channels:

    Bavo's Linkedin 

    Thorsten's LinkedIn 

    Isabel's LinkedIn 

    SUX Slack Community 

    SUX LinkedIn 

    SUX Website



    Email us at podcast@sustainableuxnetwork.com to share your feedback or suggest future guests.

    • 1 hr 2 min

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