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Spiritual vitality is the quality of life when you live from the knowledge that you are included, beloved & free. This is what you were made for and what Jesus reveals when we learn to follow His way. Discover practical personal and spiritual growth, and participate in what God is doing in the world, as you apprentice yourself to Jesus. Marc Alan Schelske is your guide on this journey. More information at https://MarcAlansSchelske.com

The Apprenticeship Way with Marc Alan Schelske Marc Alan Schelske

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Spiritual vitality is the quality of life when you live from the knowledge that you are included, beloved & free. This is what you were made for and what Jesus reveals when we learn to follow His way. Discover practical personal and spiritual growth, and participate in what God is doing in the world, as you apprentice yourself to Jesus. Marc Alan Schelske is your guide on this journey. More information at https://MarcAlansSchelske.com

    Empathy Is Not A Sin. (TAW048)

    Empathy Is Not A Sin. (TAW048)

    Episode 048 - Empathy Is Not a Sin (With Becky Castle Miller)







    Recently a number of Christian leaders and teachers have been making waves saying that empathy is a sin--or at least something that good Christians need to be very careful with. Why would they say this? What do they get out of it? And why should you be concerned if you hear this line of thinking?















    Show Notes







    Following King Jesus by Scot McKnight and Becky Castle MillerCheck out Seminary Now, where Becky works.One source on Calvin's letter justifying the murder of Servetus: https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/hcc8.iv.xvi.xxii.html















    Download a full transcript here or scroll to the bottom of the page for a full transcript of this episode.You can also watch and share the video version on Youtube.















    More about My Conversation Partner







    Becky Castle Miller writes and speaks on emotional, mental, and spiritual health in the church. She recently graduated from Northern Seminary with a master's in New Testament Context, studying with Dr. Scot McKnight. Her discipleship workbook with Dr. McKnight is called Following King Jesus. She is working on a new book about Jesus's emotions. She, her husband, their five kids, and cat returned to the US after living in the Netherlands for eight years, where she worked at an international church. She is presently the Program Manager for Seminary Now.







    Becky writes on Medium: https://medium.com/wholeheartedTwitter: @bcastlemillerFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/beckycastlemillerblog/







    Today's Sponsor







    The Wisdom of Your Heart - This book debunks several myths about emotions that are often taught in church, presents a healthier theology of emotions, and our best current understanding of what emotions mean when we have them, and how we can learn to hear wisdom in them.







    More from Marc







    Get The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer and Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World - This little book is free for you by opting in to my email list.Untangled Heart Course Online. Discovering your Authentic Core Values: A Step-by-step GuideSubscribe to my Email List. You'll get a free copy of a little book called The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer & Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World.















    Transcription







    Marc Schelske  0:00  







    Hey friends, I'm Marc Alen Schelske and this is The Apprenticeship Way, a podcast about spiritual growth following the way of Jesus. This is episode 48. Empathy is not a sin--and anyone who tells you so is trying to control you.







    TODAY’S SPONSOR







    Today's podcast is made possible by The Wisdom of Your Heart. We're talking about empathy today and that means we're going to touch on the world of our emotions. This is a subject close to my heart. I spent a lot of my life deeply disconnected from my emotions and it costs me gravely. You can hear the story of my recovery in my book, The Wisdom of Your Heart: Discovering the God-given Power and Purpose of Your Emotions. In this book, I also debunk several myths about emotions that are often taught in church, I present a theology of emotions, and I talk about our best current understanding of what emotions mean when we have them and how we can learn to hear wisdom in them. So, if today's conversation is helpful, or if you're unpacking difficult emotions from your past, or bad emotional teaching from the church, I invite you to check out The Wisdom of Your Heart. It's available in all the book places. Learn more at www.TheWisdomOfYourHeart.com.

    • 39 min
    Don’t Choose Shallow Formation (TAW047)

    Don’t Choose Shallow Formation (TAW047)

    Episode 047 - Don't Choose Shallow Formation (With Rich Vellodas)







    Does our faith enable us to be “a good gift” to our neighbors, even the neighbors we disagree with? Many Christians, it seems, are living in ways that contradict the core ethic of our faith loving our neighbors as ourselves. What is going on? It seems like we are witnessing a mass failure of discipleship. Why is this happening and what can be done about it?















    Show Notes







    The Deeply Formed Life: Five Transformational Values to Root us in the Way of Jesus by Rich VellodasEmotionally Healthy Spirituality by Pete ScazerroRich Vellodas preaches about Racism as it is manifested in human structures and institutions. Worth your time.















    Download a full transcript here or scroll to the bottom of the page for a full transcript of this episode.You can also watch and share the video version on Youtube.















    More about Rich Vellodas







    Rich Villodas is the Brooklyn-born lead pastor of New Life Fellowship, a large multiracial church with more than seventy-five countries represented in Elmhurst, Queens. Rich holds a Master of Divinity from Alliance Theological Seminary. He enjoys reading widely, preaching, and writing on contemplative spirituality, justice-related matters, and the art of preaching. He's been married to Rosie since 2006 and they have two beautiful children, Karis and Nathan.







    His Website: www.RichVillodas.comTwitter: @richvillodasFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/rvillodas







    Today's Sponsor







    The Writers Advance - A unique twice-a-year writers weekend that's focused on writing. No break-out sessions. No listening to experts talk about what worked for them. No networking. No social media. Just a small group of writers encouraging each other to write. One-on-one coaching and group feedback available. Just a few spots remain for the April weekend.







    More from Marc







    Get The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer and Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World - This little book is free for you by opting in to my email list.The Wisdom of Your Heart: Discovering the God-given Purpose and Power of Your Emotions.Untangled Heart Course Online. Discovering your Authentic Core Values: A Step-by-step GuideSubscribe to my Email List. You'll get a free copy of a little book called The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer & Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World.















    Transcription







    Marc Schelske  0:00  







    Does our faith enable us to be a good gift to our neighbors? Even the neighbors we disagree with? Hey friends, I'm Marc Alan Schelske, and this is the Apprenticeship Way, a podcast about spiritual growth following the way of Jesus. This is episode 47. Don't choose shallow formation.







    TODAY’S SPONSOR







    Today's podcast is made possible by The Writers Advance. I'm a writer, and I love supporting writers. Three years ago, I created the writer's advance. It's a writer's weekend. And it's been crafted to be exactly what writers need to push forward their current project. It's not about networking or listening to experts speak or trying desperately to get an agent or an editor to notice you. It is about writing and reconnecting with why writing matters to you.







    Now, at every event I send all the participants an anonymous survey. You can read their words on the event website, but I want to read a few of their comments right now because they tell the story. They're writers who have come to this event. And this is what they have to say.

    • 40 min
    A More Beautiful Deconstruction (TAW046)

    A More Beautiful Deconstruction (TAW046)

    Episode 046 - A More Beautiful Deconstruction (With Dr. Bradley Jersak)







    Deconstruction is everywhere. People are doing it. Some leaders are fighting it. Some people are excited by it. Some people are terrified of it. Is it just a trendy new word for leaving the church? No. It's a process that's necessary for spiritual maturity--and how we think about it matters.















    Show Notes







    A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful GospelA More Christlike Way: A More Beautiful FaithA More Christlike Word: Reading Scripture the Emmaus Way















    Download a full transcript here or scroll to the bottom of the page for a full transcript of this episode.You can also watch and share the video version on Youtube.















    More about Dr. Bradley Jersak







    Dr. Bradley Jersak is an author of multiple books. He's a professor of theology and the Dean of theology and culture at St. Stephen's University, New Brunswick. He serves as a reader and monastery preacher at an orthodox monastery, and he lives in Abbotsford, British Columbia with Eden his wife. Let's talk deconstruction.







    His Website: www.BradJersak.comClarion: Journal for Religion, Peace & Justice: www.clarion-journal.com/Twitter: @bradjersakFacebook: www.facebook.com/bradley.jersak







    Today's Sponsor







    The Wisdom Of Your Heart - A unique twice-a-year writers weekend that's focused on writing. No break-out sessions. No listening to experts talk about what worked for them. No networking. No social media. Just a small group of writers encouraging each other to write. One-on-one coaching and group feedback available.







    More from Marc







    Get The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer and Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World - This little book is free for you by opting in to my email list.The Wisdom of Your Heart: Discovering the God-given Purpose and Power of Your Emotions.Untangled Heart Course Online. Discovering your Authentic Core Values: A Step-by-step GuideSubscribe to my Email List. You'll get a free copy of a little book called The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer & Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World.















    Transcription







    Marc Schelske  0:00  







    Is deconstruction just a trendy word for backsliding or leaving Christianity? No. deconstruction is a necessary part of faith and how we think about it matters. Hey friends, I'm Marc Alan Schelske and this is the apprenticeship way, a podcast about spiritual growth following the way of Jesus. This is Episode 46. A more beautiful deconstruction.







    TODAY’S SPONSOR







    Today's podcast is sponsored by The Wisdom Of Your Heart. Imagine having two legs, two strong, healthy, functional legs, but then your parents and your teachers, maybe a pastor of the church who grew up in told you that in order to be a good person, a strong person, someone that really does what God wants, you need to only ever use one of those legs. Now you're a kid, you believe what trusted people tell you. And so you do it. You try living life on just one leg, you hop around, you end up sometimes losing your balance, you get pretty bruised up, but you know that you're doing what God wants. So you're being strong and good, even though sometimes you get hurt pretty badly or hurt other people around you. 







    This isn't a made up story. A lot of people who grew up Christian are living like this. Maybe it's you! Were you told that emotions are untrustworthy or immature are only capable of deception? Were you taught that good decision making, clear thinking,

    • 43 min
    Let’s Normalize Being Wrong (TAW045)

    Let’s Normalize Being Wrong (TAW045)

    Episode 045 - Let's Normalize Being Wrong (With Matt Tebbe)







    I grew up in a faith tradition where being right was essential. It's what kept us in community. It's what we thought honored God. For many other reasons--temperament, trauma, and even privilege--being right became an identity issue for me. Then I heard Matt Tebbe suggest that we need to normalize being wrong. For some of us this is the medicine we need.















    Show Notes







    "Let's normalize being wrong. Make Repentance Great Again" - Matt TebbeJohn 10:18Philippians 2















    Download a full transcript here or scroll to the bottom of the page for a full transcript of this episode.You can also watch and share the video version on Youtube.















    More about Matt Tebbe







    Rev. Matt Tebbe (MDiv, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) has been a coach, communicator and consultant with churches in North America since 2011. He has experience as a youth pastor, a bi-vocational church planter, and working on a team at a large church to transition it from a Sunday-centric worship service to a discipleship and mission paradigm. He has written for Leadership Journal, Shattered Magazine, and contributed to the book “What Pastors Wish Their Congregations Knew” by Kurt Fredrickson and Cameron Lee. He’s also been a featured writer at Missio Alliance and The V3 Movement. He co-founded Gravity Leadership, and is planting a church (The Table) in the northeast suburbs of Indianapolis, where he and his wife Sharon live with their children Deacon and Celeste.







    His Church: www.thetableindy.orgGravity Leadership: www.gravityleadership.comTwitter: @matttebbeFacebook: www.facebook.com/matttebbe







    Today's Sponsor







    The Writers Advance Weekend - A unique twice-a-year writers weekend that's focused on writing. No break-out sessions. No listening to experts talk about what worked for them. No networking. No social media. Just a small group of writers encouraging each other to write. One-on-one coaching and group feedback available.







    More from Marc







    Get The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer and Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World - This little book is free for you by opting in to my email list.The Wisdom of Your Heart: Discovering the God-given Purpose and Power of Your Emotions.Untangled Heart Course Online. Discovering your Authentic Core Values: A Step-by-step GuideSubscribe to my Email List. You'll get a free copy of a little book called The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer & Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World.















    Transcription







    Marc Schelske  0:00  







    Did you know you don't have to correct other people? Did you know you can be wrong, and the world won't end? Hey, friends, I'm Marc Alen Schelske. This is the apprenticeship way, a podcast about spiritual growth following the way of Jesus. This is Episode 45. Let's normalize being wrong. 







    TODAY’S SPONSOR







    Now, before we jump into that conversation, I'd like to tell you that today's podcast is made possible by The Writers Advance. I'm a writer, I write this podcast. I write blog posts. I write sermons, I've written three books. I've got two manuscripts in the oven right now. I think I've written something close to a million words at this point. And all of that writing, I have learned that there really is only one significant obstacle to writing just one. Life. Life and all its business, obligations, responsibilities, chores, people who need you to do stuff right now. And all that stuff, it takes time.

    • 41 min
    Your Suffering is Sacred (TAW044)

    Your Suffering is Sacred (TAW044)

    Episode 044 - Your Suffering is Sacred (With K.J. Ramsey)







    Are you allergic to happy clappy Christianity? There’s a good reason for thats. Churches that ignore suffering are ignoring Jesus. Many churches are not good at holding suffering. People who find themselves in extended suffering — maybe living with depression or anxiety, other mental health issues, or even invisible chronic illness — sometimes find there’s not a place for them in the church. In this episode, I talk with KJ Ramsey who has particular experience with this, and we talk about the gospel according to suffering.















    Show Notes







    "There needs to be more room in the Body of Christ to stand in the ground of our sorrow and see our suffering Savior." - KJR"We prefer to keep death out of sight and any reminders of the decay in our bodies or being less than dazzling, we want to hide and pretend it doesn't exist but the good news is that's not the way of Jesus." -KJR"If you're in a church where they say 'This table is for all,' but you're not actually included, leave. You don't need to stay in a community that crushes you...You are not faithless if you need to walk away." - KJR"To deconstruct the 2x4s of a house that was never actually God's house is a gift that you give to your future self." -KJR















    Follow KJ Ramsey & Get her Book







    K.J. Ramsey (BA, Covenant College, MA, Denver Seminary) is a licensed professional counselor, writer, and recovering idealist who believes sorrow and joy coexist. She is the author of This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers, and her writing has been published in Christianity Today, RELEVANT, The Huffington Post, Fathom Magazine, Health Central, and more on the integration of theology, psychology, and spiritual formation. She and her husband live in Denver, Colorado.







    At her website: http://www.kjramsey.comInstagram: @kjramseywritesTwitter: @kjramseywritesFacebook: @kjramseywritesGet her book, This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers















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    Untangle Workbook: A guided journaling process for untangling emotions and finding wisdom - If you’re like me, you might not have really been equipped to face difficult feelings. Distraction and denial were my favorite emotional tools. Projects. Video Games. TV. Social Media. More Work. Anything to not feel the discomfort. Learning how to sit with my feelings and understand what they really meant has been life changing. I wanted to share that with people I work with, so I wrote this little journal. The first 30 pages teach you the basics of how emotions work in our bodies and our brains, and how make meaning out of all of that. Then you learn a step-by-step template that guides you through processing an emotional reaction.







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    Get The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer and Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World - This little book is free for you by opting in to my email list.The Wisdom of Your Heart: Discovering the God-given Purpose and Power of Your Emotions.Untangled Heart Course Online. Discovering your Authentic Core Values: A Step-by-step Guide















    Subscribe to my Email List. You'll get a free copy of a little book called The Anchor Prayer: A Prayer & Process for Remaining Grounded in a Chaotic World.Subscribe to The Apprenticeship Way on iTunes and all other podcasting apps.Find a video version on my Youtube Channel.

    • 38 min
    Your Purity & Piety Will Get You Nowhere (TAW043)

    Your Purity & Piety Will Get You Nowhere (TAW043)

    I grew up in a church community where finding out God’s will was a big deal. Imagine the horror of living your whole life and then discovering you had missed God’s will? So, we spent a lot of time and energy trying to get clear on God’s will for us. I don’t think our urgency was warranted. Today I want to share with you my stress-free guide for finding God’s will.

    • 23 min

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Marc is a great interviewer and has fabulous guests. In addition, he himself, shares wisdom and insight into the Word of God! As a bonus, he helps you grasp what a personal relationship can be like. Check it out and share it with a friend!

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