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The By Land Podcast is here to help you have a better and more enjoyable experience in the outdoors. Whether backpacking, hunting, hiking, or simply enjoying the outdoors with family and friends, there is always a better way to do things and that is what this podcast offers. You deserve the very best experiences and By Land is here to help you attain them by simplifying the process, breaking down complicated subjects, and learning from people and organizations from around the world who are experts on the subject. Be it conservation, backcountry hunting, Thru Hiking, mountaineering, or general outdoor activities, By Land will give you tangible and actionable tips and tricks to take with you on your next outing into the wild.

The By Land Podcast Emory R. Wanger

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    • 4.9 • 137 Ratings

The By Land Podcast is here to help you have a better and more enjoyable experience in the outdoors. Whether backpacking, hunting, hiking, or simply enjoying the outdoors with family and friends, there is always a better way to do things and that is what this podcast offers. You deserve the very best experiences and By Land is here to help you attain them by simplifying the process, breaking down complicated subjects, and learning from people and organizations from around the world who are experts on the subject. Be it conservation, backcountry hunting, Thru Hiking, mountaineering, or general outdoor activities, By Land will give you tangible and actionable tips and tricks to take with you on your next outing into the wild.

    The Story of the Largest Family To Hike the Appalachian Trail with Ben Crawford

    The Story of the Largest Family To Hike the Appalachian Trail with Ben Crawford

    Ben Crawford first appeared on the podcast for Episode 50, right after he and his family thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2018. Since then, he’s been working on writing a book about their family story and just recently published it for all to read and enjoy. I had the pleasure of having Ben on the podcast yet again to talk about the book, the writing process, and the experiences he had putting it together.

    If you’re a family that enjoys the outdoors, or you one day WANT a family that enjoys the outdoors, I’d highly recommend exploring what Ben and his family are up to and how they approach parenting. And, if you’re wanting to help support an awesome family, go buy the book (links below)!

    BOOK DESCRIPTION:

    Ben Crawford is an entrepreneur, author, and influencer who, along with his wife, Kami, and their six children, set the record in 2018 for the largest family and youngest female (7-year-old Filia Crawford) to thru-hike the Appalachian Trail. His greatest goal is to discover the full potential of the human family, and to empower people to find freedom by questioning the status quo. Ben’s previous book, Unleash Your Family, details the Crawfords’ approach to turning the chaos of quarantine life into structured creativity. On his YouTube channel, Fight For Together, Ben aims to challenge existing perspectives on marriage, family, parenting, and self-awareness--through everything from running ultramarathons with young children, to experimenting with authority by living a year with no rules. The Crawfords live just outside Cincinnati, where they are currently planning their next adventure.





    By Land,
    Emory R. Wanger
    BY LAND LINKS
    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpack

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co

    SHOW NOTES AND LINKS
    How having a family can alter perspectives

    Pursuing things that shift perspective

    Life after the AT family Thru-Hike

    How the AT changed the family dynamics

    Why we’re quick to forget the pain of an ordeal

    Why Ben wrote the book on hiking the AT

    Reliving the trail through the writing process

    Ben’s low point on the trail

    On reading the kids’ journal entries from the trail

    The power of journaling

    Details on the book variations

    How to find the book and support Ben

    THE BOOK: https://amzn.to/3lYbTW3

    YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT2WgHiawhWgbahB0CNENkg

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/fightfortogether

    • 55 min
    Taking Risks and Entrepreneurship with Chris Cage of Greenbelly Meals

    Taking Risks and Entrepreneurship with Chris Cage of Greenbelly Meals

    Chris Cage quit a corporate job to travel and eventually hike the Appalachian Trail. When he was finally done, he had a choice to make. Either go back to corporate life or find a way to fund his new lifestyle. He chose the latter and founded Greenbelly Meals. Chris has had to make some big life-changing decisions that all came at a cost, but that’s makes it an adventure. To risk the known for the unknown.

    On this episode, we get to know a little more about Chris Cage, Green Belly, and how he goes about managing risks. We also dive into entrepreneurship, his book on the AT, and a fun new social networking site for backpacking gear nerds called Packfire.

     

    By Land,

    Emory R. Wanger

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpack

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co 

    SAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contact

    Show Notes and Links

    Introduction to Greenbelly 

    Backstory on Chris Cage

    Why Chris decided to hike the AT

    Life after the AT and deciding to create a food product

    Deciding to make BIG life changing decisions 

    Why Chris started a business instead of continuing to travel

    How Chris knew Greenbelly would be sustainable

    How Chris self published his book on hiking the AT 

    Deciding where to spend your time and energy

    The backstory on Packfire and who it’s for (ie fun!)

    What Greenbelly Meals offer

    Backstory on the name “Greenbelly”

    Final advice for those needing to make a big decision 

    https://www.greenbelly.co/

    https://packfire.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/greenbellymeal

    How to Hike the Appalachian Trail: A Comprehensive Guide to Plan and Prepare for a Successful Thru-Hike

    • 1 hr 8 min
    Finding Your Backpacking Style, Managing Expectations, and Managing Your Body

    Finding Your Backpacking Style, Managing Expectations, and Managing Your Body

    This past fall I launched my the LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK backpacking course for those out there who are just beginning to dip their toes into this whole backpacking hobby. I’ve mentioned it on the show before but wanted to take some time to talk about why I created it and who it’s for.

    Since me telling you about a course isn’t all THAT helpful, I’ve also included a few of the topics that I cover in the course. They are FINDING YOUR BACKPACKING STYLE, MANAGING EXPECTATIONS, AND MANAGING YOUR BODY. Each one of these I cover in the course so I thought I’d share them with you on this episode. With any luck, you’ll come away from this episode with some actionable tips to take with you on your next trip to the backcountry!

     

    By Land,

    Emory R. Wanger

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpack

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co 

    SAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contact

    Show Notes and Links

    Origin of the backpacking course and why I made it

    What’s in the course

    Why pay for the course? 

    Finding YOUR backpacking style

    Managing expectations 

    Managing the miles on the trail  

    How I manage my own self

    Why to avoid walking fast 

    The food and water formula 

     

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpack

    • 29 min
    The John Muir Trail Rocketship with Chad Lubinski

    The John Muir Trail Rocketship with Chad Lubinski

    Chad Lubinski messaged me a few years ago after my PCT hike asking questions about how to section hike various portions of the PCT through Oregon because he’d never really considered any sort of hiking or backpacking outside of the hunting season. Since that first interaction, Chad has dived headfirst into backpacking. In 2019 he battled his first big chunk of miles along the PCT and just one year later he completed his first-ever thru-hike of the John Muir Trail. That one single thru-hike that put him through the wringer forced him to adapt to the changing conditions of the trail and when he came out the other side, he had a brand new lease on backpacking. It was like a rocket ship to backcountry freedom because when he came home, he went to work pounding out the miles as often as he could down some of the best trails Oregon and Washington have to offer.

    In this episode, if the By Land Podcast, Chad shares his personal story, lessons learned, and what it’s like to hit the backcountry with confidence. 

     

    By Land,

    Emory R. Wanger

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpack

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co 

    SAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contact

    Show Notes and Links

    Introductions

    Chad’s background

    Chad’s transition from hunting to backpacking

    What caused Chad to begin section hiking

    Experiencing the hiking culture

    Observing the efficiency of thru hikers

    How efficiency can improve your enjoyment

    What changed between 2019 and 2020

    Chad’s experience on the JMT

    Navigating the permit process

    Preparing for the JMT

    Getting punched in the face by the JMT

    Lessons learned on the JMT

    Learning the rhythm of the mountains

    The powerful connection to others on the trail

    Chad’s takeaway from the JMT

    Confidence equals freedom in the backcountry

    How to followup with Chad online

     

    https://hikertrashnation.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/chadahooche_/

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9Hz3X4LcG4fczA5vtz59Q

    • 1 hr 21 min
    An Uncomfortable Conversation About The Reality of Hunting Culture

    An Uncomfortable Conversation About The Reality of Hunting Culture

    This episode of the By Land Podcast might get uncomfortable for hunters because I’m going to take a very hard and very uncomfortable look at the reality of what hunting culture actually is in 2020. This is not a topic that I take lightly. I’ve been sorting this out in my head for a long time now and thought it was time to put this out to listeners for them to consider as well.

    This episode is a sort of thought experiment. We’ll dive into a number of questions regarding my own realities when it comes to hunting and what it is and isn’t, explore a hypothetical question of how long it would take for hunting ethics to breakdown, and lastly what this means for hunting in the future if my assumptions are correct.

    This was not an easy episode to put together and I expect it will not be easy to listen to for some hunters out there who believe that their own version of hunting is the REAL version of hunting.

    I’ll also dive into my concerns on whether or not echo chambers exist within minority factions of hunting communities and how that may be damaging to the future of hunting as a whole if left unaddressed.

    Episode 120 a loaded one and for those who decide to stick around, I hope it sparks conversation within your own small social circles so that we as a collective can begin to find solutions to the harsh reality of modern hunting culture.

     

     

    By Land,

    Emory R. Wanger

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpack

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co 

    SAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contact

    Show Notes and Links

    Introductions

    The questions I’ve asked myself about hunting culture

    Definition of “echo chamber”  

    What is the reality of what hunting culture is? 

    What is the future of hunting? 

    How many hunters do the right thing? 

    My experiences with others’  bad ethics 

    Who’s the real majority?    

    Is “what hunting is and isn’t” just a big echo chamber?

    My thought experiment on human nature

    Change comes from a desire to change

    What is the future of hunting? 

    What is the reality of hunting?

    What happens if hunting is voted out of existence  

    The attempt of the industry to change the narrative of what hunting is and isn’t 

    The hunting narrative isn’t working

    Analyzing the kill shot

    Final thoughts 

    • 44 min
    Being Bad At Something Is Good For You with Mark Huelsing

    Being Bad At Something Is Good For You with Mark Huelsing

    Mark Huelsing is a Dad, Husband, hunter, and just so happens to work at Exo Mountain Gear, however, on this episode of The By Land Podcast, we go in a bit of a different direction. No gear talk and no hunting stories (ok..maybe one). I’ve always appreciated Mark’s insight that goes beyond the generic gear talk. Anytime I need an outside opinion on something, he’s ready and willing to offer a thoughtful perspective.

    I reached out to Mark and asked if he’d want to come on the show to chat. He initially told me he probably didn’t have anything important to talk about, but after shooting me a few things he’d been thinking about lately, we set a time and made it happen.

    This is NOT a gear episode. Instead, this is more of a conversation you’d have at the end of a long day on the trail or hunt while sitting around a campfire. We cover everything from why it’s good for you to be bad at something, the feeling of needing to be productive with your time in the outdoors while also wanting to relax, and the realization that some of us might not ever be the worlds greatest hunter.

    If you’re in the mood for a conversation that explores more than just gear and stories, this is the one for you. I’m incredibly grateful Mark was willing to open up about these topics and I’d encourage each of you listening to do the same. Ask yourself the hard questions and see what comes of it.

     

    By Land,

    Emory R. Wanger

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpack

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co 

    SAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contact

    Show Notes and Links

    Introduction to Mark

    Where Mark gets his enjoyment from him early morning training

    Thoughts on the crux of need to feel “productive” in the woods when away from family

    How hunting creates participation with nature

    The contrast created by wanting to be relaxed in the field AND productive

    Learning to allow your mind to run with it when you’re in the field

    Where Mark’s outdoor story begins

    The benefits of sucking at something

    Marks conscious decision to NOT be an amazing hunter in favor of spending more time with family (and being okay with it)

    The desire to have story and process over result

    The “pressure” in the industry to outperform everyone

    Being honest about what you’re willing to sacrifice for

    Taking advantage of opportunities when you have them

    How to followup with Mark

    https://exomtngear.com/

    https://exomtngear.com/pages/the-hunt-backcountry-podcast

    • 1 hr 14 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
137 Ratings

137 Ratings

Dios Mío! ,

Emory is versatile

Multiple themes regarding hiking, backpacking, hunting and photographing the wild are covered with honesty. Emory has great guests and his conversation is relax, deep and humble.

MPhillips30 ,

Awesome podcast by an awesome person

Covering such a wide variety of outdoor subjects from an angle that nearly everyone can relate is no easy task. Emory does it with ease. Thanks for all the advice and great content

Boulder Bacon ,

Solid

By Land Podcast is an excellent listen for all types of hikers. Educational, motivating and has a nice format. Emory interviews a wide range of hikers and vendors. Highly recommend a subscription-you’ll be hooked!

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