150 episodes

An interview-based podcast that explores the world of backpacking and backcountry adventures. I cover topics ranging from thru-hiking and hunting to conservation and personal stories of growth through adventure. Each episode promises to give insight into the various nooks and crannies of the outdoors so you will come away feeling inspired to take the knowledge from each guest and apply them to your own adventures. Welcome to better backpacking!

The By Land Podcast Emory Wanger

    • Sports
    • 4.9 • 157 Ratings

An interview-based podcast that explores the world of backpacking and backcountry adventures. I cover topics ranging from thru-hiking and hunting to conservation and personal stories of growth through adventure. Each episode promises to give insight into the various nooks and crannies of the outdoors so you will come away feeling inspired to take the knowledge from each guest and apply them to your own adventures. Welcome to better backpacking!

    The Quest: Nepal and the Summit of Everest with Alex Harz

    The Quest: Nepal and the Summit of Everest with Alex Harz

    Alex Harz is a man of many talents. He’s a filmmaker, mountaineer, and even a radio host, but for the purpose of this episode we’re diving into his Mount Everest Expedition and the film he’s produced about it called “The Quest: Nepal:”

    I’ve always had a fond appreciation for climbers because of how absolutely absurd it is that a human can climb to such incredible elevations and live to tell about it, but when you start to add layers to these expeditions in the form of photography and video, it’s just a totally different beast so when Alex reached out to introduce himself I knew we had to connect.

    One of the things I always say about this podcast is how grateful I am to meet such amazing people and Alex is no exception. Here’s a guy who has far more talents than the average person, has climbed Mount Everest while filming the entire thing, and yet he’s as humble and genuine as they come. In fact, the proof is really in the pudding because this film he’s produced and the project he’s working on isn’t actually about him. It’s about the people of the Mountain and the culture that makes it what it is.

    Alex might be the physical vehicle for the telling of a story or the driving force behind it, but when you watch this film, you’ll learn quickly that while he does have a personal reason for being there and climbing, he also knows that without the culture and its people, there would BE no climb in the first place.

    I absolutely loved getting to know Alex and picking his brain about this project he’s in the middle of because he was willing to tell his version of the story in a raw and honest way. Sure it’s Everest and it’s obviously epic in its own right, but there’s so much more to it than that, which is what we get into in this episode of the podcast.

    Please go watch and support Alex’s film and what he’s doing!

    Emory, By Land

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/

    YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    JOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groups

    INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_land

    DONATE: https://byland.co/donate

    Show Notes and Links

    https://www.thequestnepal.com/

    http://www.instagram.com/Alex.Harz

    http://www.instagram.com/TheQuestSeries

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClvw8nLPEJvtoScbCje3TgQ?view_as=subscriber

    http://www.alexharz.com/

    http://www.facebook.com/TheQuestSeriesPage

    https://twitter.com/TheQuestSeries

    Introductions

    The backstory to Everest 

    About “The Quest: Nepal” 

    How Alex’s background has helped his mountain climbing

    The principle of “yes, and”

    What makes a person thrive in dangerous situations?

    Post climb reflections and decompressions

    The spirituality of the mountain

    Why culture is so important to The Quest

    The history of the Sherpa people

    What the future holds for the Mountain and its People

    What you think about when climbing

    Capturing the climb in VR

    What’s next for Alex and The Quest

    What Alex hopes to accomplish with this films

    Alex’s advice for achieving a personal goal

    • 1 hr 13 min
    Canoe Camping 101 with Old Town Canoes

    Canoe Camping 101 with Old Town Canoes

    You might be wondering what canoe camping and backpacking have in common and why I’d be covering this on a “backpacking” podcast so to answer that question outright - they have ALOT in common. You’re required to plan, pack, stabilize a load, and bring what you need to get the job done safely and efficiently. Some canoe trips might be a day or two while others could last months on end if you’re on a large expedition.

    Canoes have been around since the dawn of time and it’s a hobby I’ve always wanted to get into, but never knew where to begin so I decided to reach out to Old Town Canoes to see if they’d give me a crash course on canoeing. They put me in touch with Ryan Lilly and the rest is history.

    Ryan Lilly works for Old Town, lives in Maine, and knows both backpacking and canoeing. He walks me through the basics of canoeing like how to choose a boat, materials, styles, and what a typical canoe camping loadout might look like. He does a great job of breaking everything down and uncomplicating a somewhat confusing topic (at least for me).

    I firmly believe that by exploring other outdoor activities, you can get better at your own. Cross-pollinating skillsets is the only way to grow and expand your understanding of how everything works and this episode is a great example of that. The outdoors has endless possibilities and who knows, maybe after this one you’ll take interest in canoeing. At the very least, you’ll know the basics

    Emory, By Land

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/

    YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    JOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groups

    INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_land

    DONATE: https://byland.co/donate

    Show Notes and Links

    https://www.oldtowncanoe.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/oldtowncanoes/

    https://www.facebook.com/OldTownCanoe/

    https://www.youtube.com/user/oldtowncanoeandkayak

    Introductions

    How to choose the right canoe

    Understanding canoe materials

    Stability and how to improve ballast

    When you may need a canoe that tracks better

    What’s so great about canoe camping

    Ryan’s typical camping loadout

    The importance of proper planning and safety 

    Common canoeing mistakes

    Ryan’s canoe suggestion for Emory

    Parting thoughts

    How to learn more about Old Town

    • 55 min
    Ultra-Right Backpacking with Paul McTaggart

    Ultra-Right Backpacking with Paul McTaggart

    Paul McTaggart is a family man and backpacker out of New Zealand who in recent years reignited his passion for the outdoors. He and I have been exchanging emails back and forth for some time now and I thought it was time we sit down for a real and open-ended conversation about backpacking.

    This is the very first episode of the By Land Podcast where I bring you the audience member, and in this case Paul, on the show for a conversation for no other reason than to get to know one another. I consider all of you guys a friend so I figure why not start to get to know you!

    This episode with Paul is incredible and he lays out an amazing bit of framework when it comes to how he plans for his backpacking trips. We talk about his background and younger years, his time spent hiking to Annapurna Base Camp, getting to know backpacking again after years away, and finally, we cover why it’s so important to do what’s right for you and your situation in the backcountry (aka the ultra-right backpacking reference).

    I absolutely loved this conversation with Paul and cannot wait to bring more audience members on the show to get to know them, their stories, and glean what I can from their experiences so we can all learn together.

    Here’s a link to Paul's amazing article and planning process. Click HERE.

    Emory, By Land

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_land

    DONATE: https://byland.co/donate

    Show Notes and Links

    Pauls article and planning process: https://byland.co/blog/planning-for-backpacking-applying-good-practice-principles-from-military-planning

    Introductions 

    Paul’s backstory

    Paul’s Annapurna base camp hike

    Paul’s approach to journaling

    On getting back into backpacking after years away

    Parenting and getting kids outdoors at a young age

    Advice for getting started again

    How Paul plans his trips (AMAZING structure!)

    The ultra-right backpacking philosophy 

    Tent choice/design discussion

    Food and nutrition lessons learned

    Planning for the team, not the dream

    Estimating travel time

    • 1 hr 38 min
    The Modern West with Melodie Edwards

    The Modern West with Melodie Edwards

    Melodie Edwards is the host and senior producer of the Modern West Podcast which dives into the history of the west, and how it’s shaped our landscapes and modern culture while digging up little-known facts about the past. The show is produced for Wyoming Public Media (aka the state’s NPR station) which is now going into its 5th season so for me, it was great to connect with someone who is doing some really great work out there. Being a podcast producer isn’t the only thing Melodie is though. She’s a bookstore owner and writer, all of which we get into in this episode.

    The reason Melodie is on the show is to explore this weird crossroad between the past and the present with regard to how we as backpackers and hikers interact with the landscape. For example, for anyone who isn’t from the west, or specifically the Montana/Wyoming area, there are a lot of really large ranches in some very beautiful places and those ranches often graze cattle on land that you and I might hike through. So, you could be hiking along and bump into a cow or two, OR maybe you can’t access certain areas because it’s a private ranch.

    There’s a lot of nuance to this and as we move further and further away from the past when ranching was a major industry, we begin to see a bit of a rub between those generational ranchers and the public who may want to either access their land, pass through it, or find a way to minimize livestock impacts on the landscape. It’s a lot, and this is just one aspect of this whole topic.

    As the producer of the Modern West Podcast and doing her investigative work on topics like this, Melodie is joining the show to help enlighten or educate me (us), on where we’ve come from, where we are, and where we’re going. This podcast isn’t always about something clearly related to backpacking because I’d miss out on opportunities like this one to further educate myself on things like land access and the modernization of the west. To me, it’s conversations like this one that allow me to look at things through a different lens so that when I’m out there enjoying myself, I know what the heck I’m benefitting from or how it even came to be.

    As I said, it’s a lot and Melodie is here to help me begin to sort it all out.

    Emory, By Land

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_land

    DONATE: https://byland.co/donate

    Show Notes and Links

    The Modern West Podcast

    https://themodernwest.org/

    Introductions

    Melodie’s background

    The history of the cowboy in the west

    The impact that cattle ranchers have had on the landscape

    How we got to where we are today with the modern landscapes

    How cattle did on the landscape

    Finding a balance

    Finding common ground

    Closing thoughts

    • 1 hr 15 min
    The Perfect Trees with Hammock Gear

    The Perfect Trees with Hammock Gear

    Hammock Gear is one of the original cottage companies in the ultralight backpacking space. When I was just getting into backpacking, it was Hammock Gear that was prolific in the search engines and forums when it came to ultralight quilts. Having such a prolific and respectable brand represented on the podcast is both honoring and humbling to me.

    Adam and Sally from Hammock Gear join the By Land Podcast to talk about the origins of the company, why and how Adam started it in the first place, and to offer some advice to those looking to make the jump to a hammock setup.

    This is one of my favorite kinds of episodes because you’ll actually get to know the people behind the brand which I think is really important, especially these days with so many great options on the market. It was refreshing to have such a great conversation with a brand that so many people look up to and I have no doubt you’ll enjoy this one.

    As a special offer to listeners, Hammock Gear is offering a 5% site-wide discount code to new customers. If you’d like to take advantage of that offer, use code ByLand5 at checkout

    Emory, By Land

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_land

    DONATE: https://byland.co/donate

    Show Notes and Links

    https://hammockgear.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/hammockgear/

    https://www.facebook.com/HammockGear/

    https://twitter.com/_hammockgear_

    Introductions

    Adam’s background

    Sally’s background

    How Hammock Gear started

    On being self-taught with making gear

    What it was like making DIY gear in the early days  

    What’s required to stay comfortable in a hammock

    How “insulation” works

    Troubleshooting sleep issues

    How to transition from a bag to a quilt

    Adam helps Emory with his hesitation to hammocking

    Adventures within adventures

    Suggested Hammock Gear kits

    Hammocking resources

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Tip To Tip With the Hiking Viking

    Tip To Tip With the Hiking Viking

    The REAL Hiking Viking, aka Jabba, joins the podcast to talk about his upcoming hike up the Continental Divide Trail, life before backpacking, and the importance of doing what makes you happy in life. I’ve known Jabba for a while now and bumped into him a few places, but this is the first time we’ve had a chance to sit down to have a conversation. The last time we spoke, he introduced me to the magic that is double-stuffed Oreo and since that was pretty game-changing for me, I figured he probably had something else up his sleeves to share.

    As it turns out, he did. This conversation isn’t about anything in particular, but it IS about a lot of things. It’s about life as a “professional” backpacker, finding what gives you enjoyment and pursuing that, knowing where you’ve come from, and looking forward to where you’re going.

    Emory, By Land

    By Land Links

    LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/

    YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3g

    FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/

    INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_land

    DONATE: https://byland.co/donate

    Show Notes and Links

    https://www.instagram.com/therealhikingviking

    https://www.youtube.com/user/therealhikingviking

    https://thetrek.co/

    Update on upcoming CDT hike/bike

    The funny thing about Leave No Trace and absolutism

    Double-stuffed Oreo admin item

    Trail food talk

    How food has changed from trail to trail

    How this trail is different from a “planning” perspective

    Jabba’s life before hiking 

    Thoughts on becoming a professional backpacker

    Why Jabba keeps going

    On the importance of making it on your own terms

    What about the future?

    How to follow Jabba’s adventures

    • 1 hr 17 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
157 Ratings

157 Ratings

matt1075 ,

Solid work

Great podcast , well edited, great topics . One of the few out there .

Sal Paradisio ,

The best podcast for backpacking

Emory is the most humble, level headed, non click baity and under appreciated backpacking voice out there. Extremely interesting and diverse topics of conversation blended with an excellent, well balanced and respectful delivery.

PaiaBilly ,

Emory Wanger speaks the language of inclusion and confidence.

Your diverse topics are savory and satisfying!
Experience and wisdom help open up a new world to me.
Thanks Pal!

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