The Edge Of Excellence Podcast

Matthew Stewart

The Edge Of Excellence Podcast is about exploring how young aspiring leaders can create a personal impact today, tomorrow, and create their dream future now. The goal is to deconstruct and synthesize successful archetypes and proven principles from high-profile entrepreneurs, systems, and resources that work, successful peers, mentors, and creators. Learn more: https://www.collegeworks.com/

  1. 8h ago

    199 - Cameron Herold - How To Grow a $2M Company Into $106M

    What if chasing perfection is the very thing that keeps you stuck? Matt Stewart reconnects with Cameron Herold, the former COO who scaled 1-800-GOT-JUNK from 2 million to 106 million in revenue, founded the COO Alliance, and now hosts the Second in Command podcast. Eighteen years after they first crossed paths, they trade stories from their shared roots in college house painting and dig into the mindset that built Cameron's career. You will hear why momentum beats perfection, how a summer painting job became a real-world MBA, the free publicity trick that gets a nobody into the newspaper, and how to find the handful of things you are truly good at and love. Cameron also opens up about the one sacrifice he still regrets and what shifted for him at 60. Listen now for candid, hard-won wisdom you will not hear anywhere else. Timestamped Highlights02:18 - The definition of excellence that made him flip the whole question on its head04:14 - Why good enough built a business that perfectionism never could06:11 - The $10,000 flyer that launched a lifetime of scaling companies08:42 - The real-world MBA hiding inside a summer painting job14:31 - The honest reason he walked away at 100 million17:46 - The free publicity trick that put a college kid in the newspaper21:12 - Why the right room changes everything for a young entrepreneur28:13 - How to find the three things you are good at and love37:21 - The one sacrifice from his 20s that he still regrets41:46 - What shifts at 60 once you have crossed off every goal About The GuestCameron Herold is a business growth expert, speaker, and author known as the COO Whisperer. As COO of 1-800-GOT-JUNK, he helped scale the company from 2 million to 106 million in revenue in about six years. He is the founder of the COO Alliance, the global network for the second in command, and the host of the Second in Command podcast. A bestselling author of several business books and a top rated international speaker who has presented on every continent, including Antarctica, Cameron got his start in the same college house painting world as Matt, then went on to build and advise companies around the globe. 🔗 LinkedIn | Website | The Second in Command Podcast Mentioned Resources1-800-GOT-JUNKCOO AllianceCollege Pro PaintersEntrepreneurs' Organization (EO)YPOVistageStrategic CoachGenius NetworkGuy KawasakiSolarCityBoyd Group (Gerber Collision)Nurse Next DoorDan MartellPowder MountainTED Important LinksGrow, do great work, and lead the way: National Services Group (NSG)Join our Student Professional Program: Internship ApplicationConnect with Matt on LinkedInWatch full interviews on YouTube The Edge of Excellence is an original podcast hosted by Matthew Stewart. Brought to you by College Works. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

  2. Jul 14

    198: Colin McGuire - How a “Hustle Portfolio” Ignited a National Brand

    What if the fastest way to build something big is to stop chasing fast money? Sean Phelps reconnects with Colin McGuire, a College Works alum he worked alongside in the Illinois division two decades ago. Colin went from a self-described, generally unemployable student with severe ADHD to running a growth marketing agency and launching Glimmr, a superfood haircare brand now scaling fast inside Target. They get into the messy 20-year road most people never see. The T-shirt hustles, the wooden toothbrushes, a viral prank gift site, the broke nights in Vegas, and the hundred-plus door-to-door sales pitches that later helped him walk into Target HQ and win. Colin breaks down why staying calm keeps you in the arena, how one skill compounds over a decade, and why patience beats hype. If you are waiting to feel ready or chasing the next shiny thing online, this conversation is your wake-up call. Listen now. Timestamped Highlights00:56 – The three-part definition of excellence that starts with a surprising word 02:11 – The truth behind the overnight success nobody talks about 05:06 – Why being generally unemployable turned out to be an advantage 07:50 – The classroom moment that made door-to-door sales sound perfect 21:12 – His first six-figure profit came from the most boring product imaginable 30:09 – Broke in a 40-dollar Vegas motel, he meets the partner who changes everything 36:55 – The real growth numbers, and where Glimmr goes nationwide next 41:03 – No boardroom, no PowerPoint: the Target pitch that almost fell apart 47:53 – The one skill he tells every young person to master first About The GuestColin McGuire is the co-founder and CEO of Boomn, a full-service growth marketing agency he started in 2017, and the CEO and co-founder of Glimmr, a superfood hair care brand built around its 10-minute hair mask. A College Works Painting alum and Illinois State University graduate, Colin spent years building and selling a portfolio of scrappy ecommerce businesses before turning that hard-won experience into an agency and a fast-scaling consumer brand now expanding across Target and other major retailers. 🔗 LinkedIn Mentioned ResourcesGlimmr (superfood hair care brand)Boomn (growth marketing agency)College Works PaintingIllinois State UniversitySpringdale VenturesTargetTJX Companies (Canada retail partner)TikTok ShopUdemy (GAAP accounting course)KickstarterFlippa (website marketplace)AmazonShopifyWooCommerce Important LinksGrow, do great work, and lead the way: National Services Group (NSG)Join our Student Professional Program: Internship ApplicationConnect with Matt on LinkedInWatch full interviews on YouTube The Edge of Excellence is an original podcast hosted by Matthew Stewart. Brought to you by College Works. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

  3. Jul 7

    197: Caleb Hyman - How to Do It All Without Choosing Just One Thing

    What if the reason you feel stuck is that you keep believing you have to pick just one thing? In this episode, Matt Stewart sits down with Caleb Hyman, a 20-year-old who plays college football, runs a district for College Works, and still makes time for his friends and family. Caleb was a four-sport high school athlete who worked all the way through, and he brought that same refusal to choose into his first years in business. They get into what Matt calls the tyranny of OR, the trap of thinking you can only do one thing well. Caleb breaks down how he stays fully present in football, school, and work, the simple way he processes stress before it piles up, and why one hard sacrifice as a young branch manager set up everything that came after. If you are tired of feeling pulled in too many directions, this conversation is your map. Listen now. Timestamped Highlights01:19 - His definition of excellence, and why hitting your goal is not the finish line03:40 - The tyranny of OR, and why Caleb refuses to pick just one thing08:20 - Four sports, a job, and school at once, without burning out10:01 - The two questions he asks to kill stress fast15:18 - Why even the highest performers have to schedule time for friends19:01 - The message in English class that pulled him off the Kwik Trip path20:41 - The leap from painter to running a six-figure branch, then a district34:49 - The three-hour weekend drive he would make all over again Mentioned ResourcesCollege Works PaintingKwik TripUniversity of Wisconsin-La CrosseVector MarketingCameron HeroldCollege ProBackwoods Log Homes About The GuestCaleb Hyman is a 20-year-old college athlete and young business leader. A four-sport high school athlete in football, baseball, wrestling, and track, and a captain in football and wrestling, he now plays college football at the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse. He started with College Works as a summer painter, was promoted to branch manager, where he built a six-figure business, and in his first year as a district manager, produced roughly 1.5 million dollars, one of a small handful ever to reach that mark. He plans to follow in his father's footsteps into entrepreneurship and one day run his own business. 🔗 LinkedIn Important LinksGrow, do great work, and lead the way: National Services Group (NSG)Join our Student Professional Program: Internship ApplicationConnect with Matt on LinkedInWatch full interviews on YouTube The Edge of Excellence is an original podcast hosted by Matthew Stewart. Brought to you by College Works. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

  4. Jun 30

    196: How To Turn Ordinary Days Into Extraordinary Results - (Tyler Walden, Justin Bauer, Brad Bond, Brady Druecke, and Sean Phelps)

    What if chasing perfection, knowing you’ll never reach it, is the real secret to winning in business and in life? This episode features powerhouse young leaders Tyler Walden, Justin Bauer, Brad Bond, and Brady Druecke, all veteran College Works managers, with co-host Sean Phelps in a raw conversation with Matt Stewart. They reveal what it's really like to run a six-figure business before even graduating, the real obstacles most people ignore, and why most never make it to that elusive “next level.” You’ll hear the unfiltered truth about failure, leadership, and how to use a single tough experience to transform your impact forever. Miss this conversation and risk staying stuck in comfort while others leap ahead. Listen now for a behind-the-curtain look you won’t get from textbooks and unlock the bold moves that set the next generation of leaders apart. Timestamped Highlights01:13 – The quote that changed their entire definition of excellence 06:18 – The hidden advantage all four had before launching their businesses 14:10 – The strange power of picking the “wrong” major (and why it worked) 19:10 – The single shift that made scaling a business suddenly possible 22:51 – The brutally honest lesson most rookies ignore about real profit 29:29 – Why building a system—not just a business—is the only path to freedom 35:58 – The surprising connection between brutal honesty and building trust 42:31 – Why signing up for another year changes everything (and how) About The Guest A standout intern and fraternity president from North Dakota, Tyler Walden made history with College Works Painting as a $207,000 rookie manager and is chasing the all-time revenue record. Known for scaling his business to unprecedented heights, he brings leadership experience from both athletics and early management roles. Tyler is passionate about building scalable businesses and leading high-performing teams. 🔗 LinkedIn Hailing from Iowa, Justin Bauer grew his College Works Painting branch to $120,000 in his first year, then surpassed $150,000 the next. With a background as a four-sport athlete and experience in his family’s plumbing business, Justin is energized by hands-on work and aims to launch his own landscaping company, using his internship as a launchpad for future service-based entrepreneurship. 🔗 LinkedIn | Facebook Brad Bond juggled playing college football in Emporia, Kansas, while building his College Works Painting business to over $150,000 in revenue, doubling his success as a “double dipper.” Brad’s entrepreneurial journey started with his own lawn mowing business in high school. He’s focused on building his confidence and leadership skills and sees a future in business—where consistency and adaptability are his trademarks. A Michigan State student who jumped into business as a freshman, Brady Drueke managed $239,000 in his first year at College Works Painting and is scaling up with even more employees in his second year. A varsity athlete in high school, Brady’s early work experiences and involvement in friends’ service businesses sparked his interest in entrepreneurship, organization, and team leadership. 🔗 LinkedIn A key mentor, Sean Phelps brings years of leadership and practical business coaching to the table. As a longtime leader within the College Works Painting organization, Sean combines experience in accounting, entrepreneurship, and people development. He’s passionate about helping young leaders achieve excellence through honesty, time management, and persistent growth. 🔗 LinkedIn Mentioned ResourcesVince Lombardi (quote on chasing perfection)Nick Saban (coaching mindset)Michigan State UniversityEmporia State UniversityNDSU (North Dakota State University) Important LinksGrow, do great work, and lead the way: National Services Group (NSG)Join our Student Professional Program: Internship ApplicationConnect with Matt on LinkedInWatch full interviews on YouTube The Edge of Excellence is an original podcast hosted by Matthew Stewart. Brought to you by College Works. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

  5. Jun 23

    195: Todd Baldwin - Life, Losses, and the Victory Mindset to Really Build Wealth

    What if the only thing between you and your dream life was rewiring your thinking about what’s possible? In this energizing episode, Sean Phelps sits down with “Millennial Millionaire” Todd Baldwin, a self-made real estate investor who went from a small-town troublemaker to a multimillionaire before 30, without family money or big-city connections. Together, they challenge the myths holding young leaders back, revealing the raw work, mindset shifts, and unconventional tactics that actually create real wealth today. You’ll hear the untold struggles behind scaling rental empires, how “thinking bigger” beats raw talent, and why your habits in your 20s make or break your future. Don’t let another year pass stuck in the status quo. Tune in now to discover the brutal truths and proven strategies you actually need to craft a life you love. Miss this, and miss your chance to rewrite your own rules of success. Timestamped Highlights00:51 – The moment a single mom’s struggle sparked an unstoppable drive 03:33 – Getting expelled and outgrowing self-sabotage: a pivotal shift story 06:08 – One real estate client that altered the course of his life forever 09:28 – The unorthodox strategy that snowballed into $40k/month in rent 12:07 – The candid reality of picking the right tenants (and dodging disaster) 14:44 – The fast path to $50k deals: how wholesaling changed everything 18:26 – Why mediocre Airbnbs fail (and the key to crushing hotel competition) 24:07 – Brutally honest: what 100-hour weeks in your 20s actually buy you 28:52 – The “delusional” mindset that made millionaire dreams real About The Guest Todd Baldwin is a self-made real estate investor and content creator, widely recognized as CNBC’s “Millennial Millionaire.” Featured on BiggerPockets and financial media, he built a multi-million dollar portfolio in the country’s most competitive markets—starting with no connections and all grit. 🔗 Instagram Mentioned Resources“Rich Dad Poor Dad” by Robert Kiyosaki“The Intelligent Investor” by Benjamin Graham“The Richest Man in Babylon” by George S. ClasonBiggerPocketsHospitable (property management software)Facebook Groups for tenant sourcingAirbnb Important LinksGrow, do great work, and lead the way: National Services Group (NSG)Join our Student Professional Program: Internship ApplicationConnect with Matt on LinkedInWatch full interviews on YouTube The Edge of Excellence is an original podcast hosted by Matthew Stewart. Brought to you by College Works. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

  6. Jun 16

    194: Henry Goodnow - Brutal Lessons from Building Trust, Fast

    What if the secret to breaking through wasn’t talent but choosing the harder path, even when “good enough” should be enough? In this revealing episode, Matt Stewart sits down with Henry Goodnow to pull back the curtain on what it really takes to stand out as a young leader and entrepreneur right now. They go far beyond résumés, diving into the pressure of building trust in small towns, the brutal truth about indecision, and what happens when you commit to seeing things through—no matter how uncomfortable it gets. If you think you need experience to be ready for anything, this conversation challenges that head-on. Miss this, and you risk sleepwalking through opportunities that will never return. Listen now to uncover rare mindsets and tactical wisdom you won’t find anywhere else. Timestamped Highlights00:31 – The definition of excellence that flips “good enough” on its head 04:54 – Can you really work and play three sports in high school? A myth busted 10:48 – The brutal surprise of starting a business where nobody knows your name 13:42 – What most people get wrong about decisiveness and commitment 19:53 – How choosing harder paths transforms your reputation and outcomes 24:50 – The yellow card wisdom: Make a decision, then make it right 32:46 – When messing up earns respect (if you do this one thing) 41:40 – Why most young people get stuck—and the fastest way out About The Guest Henry Goodnow is a fast-rising entrepreneur, currently leading teams and divisions within the College Works organization. He has managed over 100 people and millions in revenue before age 23, earning a reputation for radical accountability, coach-style leadership, and relentless pursuit of better outcomes. 🔗 LinkedIn Mentioned ResourcesCollege WorksHandshake (college recruiting platform)YPO (Young Presidents’ Organization) Important LinksGrow, do great work, and lead the way: National Services Group (NSG)Join our Student Professional Program: Internship ApplicationConnect with Matt on LinkedInWatch full interviews on YouTube The Edge of Excellence is an original podcast hosted by Matthew Stewart. Brought to you by College Works. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

  7. Jun 9

    193: Crush Fear: Your First Business Launch Survival Guide - CWP Executive Team (Sean Phelps, Jack Kratcha, Brett Apel, Tyler McCullough, Kory Finley, and Tyler Schuster)

    Are you secretly wondering if you have what it takes to survive your first real business challenge... or if you’ll fumble and flame out like everyone fears? This roundtable episode brings together the boldest voices from the College Works Painting executive team as they pull back the curtain on launching businesses in your 20s, conquering the fear of failure, and learning to own your setbacks (and your victories). You’ll hear real stories of panic, poor decisions, painful learning, and turning chaos into confidence from being terrified of sales, to losing all your employees at a backyard BBQ, to thriving despite every reason not to. If you want battle-tested strategies and truth bombs that rise above cliches, tune in now. Step past the self-doubt and excuses. Get the exclusive mindset secrets, hard-won tactics, and support you can’t find anywhere else... especially when the only thing between you and success is the courage to keep moving. Skip it, and risk making the same painful mistakes without the blueprint to win. This episode delivers candid wisdom forged in the fire, only from leaders who’ve walked it for real. Listen now! Timestamped Highlights00:33 – The surprising truth every new founder ignores (but pays for) 06:39 – The one assessment that saves years of painful missteps 09:59 – When fear of failure nearly stopped them cold and what flipped the script 13:55 – The brutal lesson of losing your entire team at once 19:44 – The painful production disaster that became a turning point 26:25 – The costly mistake every first-time entrepreneur makes and how to fix it 34:07 – The strategy that tripled sales and crushed self-doubt 41:32 – The one mindset shift you need to break through your ceiling About The Guest Sean Phelps, President at College Works Painting, is a leadership-minded entrepreneur who once believed business ownership was only possible in mid-life. Instead, he dove in early, learning to blend hard work with effective organization and team leadership. Sean’s transformation came from realizing leadership is less about personal output and more about enabling others to succeed. He stands out for his ability to assess failures honestly, refine systems, and mentor others on their journey to excellence. 🔗 LinkedIn Jack Kratcha, President at College Works Painting, is proof that you don’t need decades of experience to make an impact in business. Jack began his academic journey studying actuarial science and crunching numbers before pivoting into entrepreneurship, drawn by the opportunity to build something real and lasting. He credits his success to “going all in” channeling his energy into his business and leveraging every learning moment. Jack stands out for his resilience, willingness to take risks, and his ability to keep a level head amid setbacks. 🔗 LinkedIn Brett Apel, Vice President at College Works Painting, is an accomplished young leader with a background shaped by hard work, adaptability, and a deep desire to learn from every challenge. Growing up with a tax accountant father, Brett first considered a traditional business path, but quickly discovered his passion for sales, leadership, and entrepreneurship. He’s known for his willingness to ask questions, leverage networks, and pivot quickly transforming early failures into later success. Brett’s journey showcases how embracing discomfort and seeking mentorship can skyrocket growth. 🔗 LinkedIn Tyler McCullough, Vice President at College Works Painting, approaches every venture with analytical rigor and a commitment to tracking results. Originally set on becoming an engineer, he shifted into business and leadership, moving from a science and math background into the world of entrepreneurship. Tyler learned the power of ownership taking responsibility for both failures and successes and developed a knack for rapid self-improvement through self-reflection and data-driven action. He exemplifies how changing directions and mindsets leads to unexpected achievement. 🔗 LinkedIn Kory Finley, Vice President at College Works Painting, grew up immersed in entrepreneurship from running a cattle business with his brothers in Colby, Kansas, to thriving in fast-paced business environments. Kory brings a pragmatic, coachable spirit to every challenge, never shying away from hard lessons or feedback. He’s motivated by self-reliance, a curiosity about what makes businesses work, and a preference for hands-on leadership. Kory’s drive comes from a desire to continuously learn, grow, and elevate those around him. 🔗 LinkedIn Tyler Schuster, Vice President at College Works Painting, is a former collegiate quarterback who translated the discipline and teamwork of college football into entrepreneurial leadership. With a degree in business administration and a focus on sales and management, Tyler’s journey reflects adaptability and self-belief. Despite uncertainty about his long-term goals at first, he soon discovered a love for real estate development and business-building. Tyler’s story illustrates the importance of persistence, self-confidence, and embracing discomfort to fuel a career of impact. 🔗 LinkedIn Mentioned ResourcesUniversity of Wisconsin-MadisonGrand Valley State UniversityUniversity of Sioux FallsStrengthsFinderDISC personality assessmentThomas Edison (as a frame for failing forward) Important LinksGrow, do great work, and lead the way: National Services Group (NSG)Join our Student Professional Program: Internship ApplicationConnect with Matt on LinkedInWatch full interviews on YouTube The Edge of Excellence is an original podcast hosted by Matthew Stewart. Brought to you by College Works. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

  8. Jun 2

    192: Jerome Stewart & Darius Mirshahzadeh - How To Navigate AI

    Are you ready for a world where your knowledge job could disappear overnight? In this explosive conversation, Matt Stewart and Sean Phelps dive in with Jerome Stewart and Darius Mirshahzadeh to uncover the pace, risks, and surprising opportunities behind the AI upheaval transforming every industry. These world-recognized AI experts cut through the hype to reveal who wins, who gets left behind, and the essential skillsets you need right now. This episode delivers the raw, practical playbook for adapting and thriving in the new AI-first era. Miss this, and you risk getting locked out of tomorrow’s job market or watching your business fade away. Catch it now for exclusive strategies you won’t hear anywhere else, and get the jump on everyone still waiting for things to settle. Timestamped Highlights00:48 – Why 2026 is a shock year for AI advances and productivity 04:04 – The jaw-dropping moment AI replaced work in seconds 06:08 – Brutal reality: Should most knowledge work even be done by humans? 09:45 – Handshake skills and the surprising future of sales in an AI world 12:19 – The new knowledge work that 20-somethings must master to stand out 14:06 – How hiring has flipped: Entry-level jobs and unemployment decoded 18:13 – Why anyone can become an AI builder in just months 27:12 – Physical jobs, digital robots, and training tomorrow’s workforce 45:25 – The Internet moment: Why even a small AI adoption triggers wipeout About The Guest Jerome Stewart is a recognized expert in artificial intelligence and business process optimization, known for his hands-on approach to leveraging AI for 2x and even 3x productivity gains. As a leader with the White Feathers Group, Jerome Stewart dives deep into marketing, workflow automation, and the transformative power of large language models like Claude. He has a knack for demystifying emerging technology, training teams, and encouraging young professionals to lean into AI-driven change. Jerome Stewart also champions the importance of human connection, emphasizing skills like discernment and relationship-building that AI can’t replace. 🔗 LinkedIn | Website Darius Mirshahzadeh is a forward-thinking entrepreneur and business leader. He is the chairman of AI It and the host of The Greatness Machine podcast. Featured by Fortune magazine as an AI expert, he specializes in helping organizations automate knowledge work and redefine their tech stacks using AI-first strategies. He is known for his candid assessments of the job market, his ability to break down complex trends, and his passion for building teams skilled in automation platforms and agent-building. With a focus on practical implementation, Darius Mirshahzadeh is a leading voice at the intersection of leadership, automation, and future-of-work innovation. 🔗 LinkedIn | Podcast Mentioned ResourcesClaude (AI platform)ChatGPTGeminiPerplexityN8NMakeOpenClawCore Value Equation BookYouTube (for AI tutorials and deep dives) Important LinksGrow, do great work, and lead the way: National Services Group (NSG)Join our Student Professional Program: Internship ApplicationConnect with Matt on LinkedInWatch full interviews on YouTube The Edge of Excellence is an original podcast hosted by Matthew Stewart. Brought to you by College Works. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

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The Edge Of Excellence Podcast is about exploring how young aspiring leaders can create a personal impact today, tomorrow, and create their dream future now. The goal is to deconstruct and synthesize successful archetypes and proven principles from high-profile entrepreneurs, systems, and resources that work, successful peers, mentors, and creators. Learn more: https://www.collegeworks.com/