The fight for Ukraine — and democracy The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Sean Illing talks with historian and author Timothy Snyder about the war in Ukraine, the stakes for Europe and the rest of the world, and the battle between Putin's autocracy and democracy being waged. They also discuss the enduring importance of history — and of ideas — in shaping events in our world.
Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
Guest: Timothy Snyder (@TimothyDSnyder), author; Levin professor of history, Yale University
References: 


"The War in Ukraine Has Unleashed a New Word" by Timothy Snyder (New York Times Magazine; Apr. 22)


On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder (Crown; 2017)


The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America by Timothy Snyder (Tim Duggan; 2018)


Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin by Timothy Snyder (Basic; 2010)


"Vladimir Putin's politics of eternity" by Timothy Snyder (The Guardian; Mar. 16, 2018)


Black Rights/White Wrongs: The Critique of Racial Liberalism by Charles W. Mills (Oxford; 2017)


"Who is Putin really fighting? Maxim Trudolyubov on the Russian president's ruthless war of generations" (Meduza; June 6)


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Editor: Amy Drozdowska


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