55 episodes

A GUIDED TOUR OF VIDEOGAME MAKERY! Hosts Alex Seropian (founder Bungie, Wideload, Industrial Toys) and Aaron Marroquin (Art Director, Game Designer, part time magician) take you on a tour of the minds that create our favorite video games. We may also wander around in our own heads too. We aim to inspire, educate and entertain you about the games you love, the people that make them and hey, if you're not a gamer we know you know one. This will help you connect with them too.

The Fourth Curtain Alexander Seropian & Aaron Marroquin

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    • 4.9 • 31 Ratings

A GUIDED TOUR OF VIDEOGAME MAKERY! Hosts Alex Seropian (founder Bungie, Wideload, Industrial Toys) and Aaron Marroquin (Art Director, Game Designer, part time magician) take you on a tour of the minds that create our favorite video games. We may also wander around in our own heads too. We aim to inspire, educate and entertain you about the games you love, the people that make them and hey, if you're not a gamer we know you know one. This will help you connect with them too.

    Tim Morten's Giant Strategy

    Tim Morten's Giant Strategy

    This week’s guest Tim Morten has been putting the “real” in real time strategy for years. Formerly lead on Starcraft II, he’s now CEO of Frost Giant Studios, where they’re making Stormgate, a game intended to broaden the RTS audience. We talk compromises, learning how to make games and Korea’s love of Starcraft this week!Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron MarroquinFind us at www.thefo...

    • 1 hr 9 min
    Kristian Segestrale’s Midas Touch

    Kristian Segestrale’s Midas Touch

    Our guest this week was a founder of Glu and Playfish and an early investor in Supercell. Now he’s CEO of Super Evil Megacorp working on TMNT for Switch. We talk the early days of mobile, the great Vainglory and roguelites in a very educational episode this week!Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron MarroquinFind us at www.thefourthcurtain.comCome join the conversation at https://discord...

    • 1 hr 23 min
    Up All Night with Ted Price

    Up All Night with Ted Price

    Beginning with a 3DO dev kit he was developing on alone (!), Ted Price went on to make Spyro the Dragon, Ratchet and Clank and Spiderman. His company Insomniac has been making games for a boggling 30 years! We talk odd jobs, Hail Marys and hands for mechanics this week.Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron MarroquinFind us at www.thefourthcurtain.comCome join the conversation at https://...

    • 1 hr 20 min
    Sharing a Vision with Paul and Katy Bettner

    Sharing a Vision with Paul and Katy Bettner

    Our guests Paul and Katy Bettner are the Co-CEOs of Playful Games. Paul got his start making Age of Empires and Halo Wars. Together Paul and Katy made the leap into mobile founding NewToy, where Words with Friends became one of the most-played games of all time. They’re now working on Wildcard, a game aiming to fulfill the promise of web3. We talk Alec Baldwin, terrible MySpaces and feelings this week!Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring...

    • 1 hr 25 min
    Peter Moore Takes His Shot

    Peter Moore Takes His Shot

    Our guest Peter Moore keeps ending up on top, whether it’s Reebok, Sega, EA Sports or Liverpool FC. His remarkable journey begins with semi-pro football, veers into videogames to become a father of the Dreamcast, head of EA Sports and has come full circle as owner of Santa Barbara Sky FC. Stories of recruiter calls, a dead Seaman and the Four C’s this week!Visit Peter's new football team: https://www.santabarbaraskyfc.com/Peter's Ted Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/peter_moore_how_m...

    • 1 hr 41 min
    What Could Go Right with Mitch Lasky

    What Could Go Right with Mitch Lasky

    You may know not the name of our guest Mitch Lasky, but you absolutely know his work. He created Activision’s third-party business and basically kicked off mobile gaming. As a VC he played a key role in the creation of Riot, Discord, Twitter and a dozen other hit businesses. Longtime partner at Benchmark Capital he’s now an owner of the LAFC soccer team. We talk the role of venture capital, marketing takeovers and more this week!Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and ...

    • 1 hr 20 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
31 Ratings

31 Ratings

joecentric ,

Presses all the right buttons!

I can’t imagine stories like these are being collected anywhere else. Listening to the hosts and their excellent guests is like a Who’s Who of the recent age of video games.

For those who remember it, listening to T4C gives me the same vibes I get from reading Levy’s “Hackers”.

cumulusguy ,

Filling a Delightful Need

For those of us that have *loved* games since we were wee lads and lasses… and have wondered about the behind the scenes innovators and journey-persons bringing these delightful experiences to us, Alex and his merry band of pirates are bringing those stories to our eyes and ears.

I’m particularly delighted by the fact they are highlighting some of the games most formative to my love of the medium— from Marathon on the Mac (I *loved* that game and burned many hours on it with joy) to Plants vs Zombies (another that stole my heart and time)… it’s just… well… fun to listen to these stories. And ever so slightly envy-invoking. :-)

Keep ‘em coming fellas!

Chuy629 ,

Best Behind the Scenes Podcast about Video Games

If you love video games and want to listen to real and fun conversations on how they’re made and the interesting journey it takes you on, then listen to this podcast. Alex Seropian and Aaron Marroquín are legendary together, two veterans from the industry get together and have hilarious and entertaining conversations with their friends from the video game industry! It’s really awesome and refreshing to listen to the perspective and commentary about video games and how some of the titans and veterans of the industry got their start.

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