244 episodes

The National Security Law Podcast (aka the NSL Podcast) is a weekly review of the latest legal controversies associated with the U.S. government’s national security activities and institutions, featuring Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck of the University of Texas at Austin. They bring different perspectives to these issues, but always in a friendly spirit. The program is fast-paced but detail-rich, and is meant for lawyers and non-lawyers alike. If you’ve been looking for a thoughtful yet enjoyable way to keep up with and better understand these issues, the National Security Law Podcast is the show for you. To join the conversation, follow nslpodcast on Twitter (@nslpodcast).

The National Security Law Podcast Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

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    • 4.8 • 624 Ratings

The National Security Law Podcast (aka the NSL Podcast) is a weekly review of the latest legal controversies associated with the U.S. government’s national security activities and institutions, featuring Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck of the University of Texas at Austin. They bring different perspectives to these issues, but always in a friendly spirit. The program is fast-paced but detail-rich, and is meant for lawyers and non-lawyers alike. If you’ve been looking for a thoughtful yet enjoyable way to keep up with and better understand these issues, the National Security Law Podcast is the show for you. To join the conversation, follow nslpodcast on Twitter (@nslpodcast).

    Episode 245: 100 Days Later…

    Episode 245: 100 Days Later…

    Hello, is this thing on?  Check one, check two...testing, testing.  We're good?  Alright alright alright...



    It's been 100 days between shows.  Thought maybe the world might be calmer if we waited a bit, but no such luck!  We are, however, very glad to be back on the air with a fresh (and rather long!) episode. Tune in for topics including:



    * Israel & Hamas

    * Ukraine & Russia

    * America & the Houthis

    * 702 renewal

    * TikTok & prospects for the divestment bill prevailing vs a First Amendment challenge

    * All sorts of Trump litigation

    * All sorts of Texas border stuff (invasion as a constitutional concept, state-level war powers, preemption, the limits of preemption, etc.)

    * Plus, why do the Mets already suck? It's only been four games.  Yeesh.

    • 1 hr 27 min
    Episode 244: Not Our 30th Episode of 2023

    Episode 244: Not Our 30th Episode of 2023

    Barring an unlikely spate of more than a dozen episodes happening over the next week, it sure looks like Steve has won his bet with Bobby, for this marks the 16th episode of 2023.  Ouch, that's not even *close* to the 30-show target!  But tune in anyway if you are interested in a thorough overview of what is and is not clear about the Colorado Supreme Court's decision disqualifying Donald Trump from the ballot under color of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment (that is, on grounds that Trump had engaged in insurrection).

    • 1 hr 11 min
    Episode 243: Boiled Froggy Water Under the Bridge

    Episode 243: Boiled Froggy Water Under the Bridge

    Two months between episodes?  Looks like someone will be buying Steve a dinner at the conclusion of 2023 (barring a pivot to posting new episodes every day).



    As for what is on tap in episode 243:



    * Israel and Gaza: a review of key international law issues

    * The United States and Iran: a review of key domestic law issues

    * Trumplandia: checking in on, like, 17 separate cases currently underway



    As for frivolity: there are some (inevitable) ramblings about football, but much more frivolous than that is the ad hoc holiday favorites playlist...

    • 1 hr 19 min
    Episode 242: A Rule of Law (and Punctuation) Free Episode!

    Episode 242: A Rule of Law (and Punctuation) Free Episode!

    Sorry about accidentally taking the whole month off, but we're back with a classic: tune in for the 9/11 case warm-up, and stick around for 45 minutes of wrangling over the PCLOB Report on Section 702!  And, yes, frivolity, always frivolity (wherein we discuss the musical Six, football, and gargantuan mismatches).

    Episode 241: Let’s Barbie!

    Episode 241: Let’s Barbie!

    Tune in for the latest, in which we discuss life as a fall 1L, RICO, removal, Nashiri, Bahlul, Shimari, Barbie, and Silo. And if all those names mean something to you...well, you are among the select few, and this pod is for you!

    • 1 hr 16 min
    Episode 240: Something Got Released

    Episode 240: Something Got Released

    If you are interested in a detailed and careful explanation of the charges at issue in United States v. Trump (the recent indictment of the former president in relation to his effort to overturn the results of the election), the way that the alleged facts related to those offenses, and the relatives strengths and weaknesses of the most likely defenses...well, this is the show for you.  Though co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney originally planned to discuss an array of topics in addition to reviewing the latest indictment of the former president, they ended up spending the entire hour on this one.

    • 1 hr 4 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
624 Ratings

624 Ratings

luca487075 ,

The Centennial edition

Absolutely marvelous to have you guys back! And I am so so relieved that you I’m going to continue it. It’ll probably be more regular when you have to schedule it between Texas and the East Coast.! Thanks guys, Louise and San Diego

slems88 ,

Love— wish they did more

I really appreciate how thorough and thoughtful their discussions are, I just wish they did more episodes. Maybe more like 2 a month rather than about 1.

unimpressed with it ,

Gen*cide Apologists

Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney are genocide apologists.

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