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The National Security Law Podcast (aka the NSL Podcast) is a weekly review of the latest legal controversies associated with the U.S. government’s national security activities and institutions, featuring Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck of the University of Texas at Austin. They bring different perspectives to these issues, but always in a friendly spirit. The program is fast-paced but detail-rich, and is meant for lawyers and non-lawyers alike. If you’ve been looking for a thoughtful yet enjoyable way to keep up with and better understand these issues, the National Security Law Podcast is the show for you. To join the conversation, follow nslpodcast on Twitter (@nslpodcast).

The National Security Law Podcast Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

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The National Security Law Podcast (aka the NSL Podcast) is a weekly review of the latest legal controversies associated with the U.S. government’s national security activities and institutions, featuring Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck of the University of Texas at Austin. They bring different perspectives to these issues, but always in a friendly spirit. The program is fast-paced but detail-rich, and is meant for lawyers and non-lawyers alike. If you’ve been looking for a thoughtful yet enjoyable way to keep up with and better understand these issues, the National Security Law Podcast is the show for you. To join the conversation, follow nslpodcast on Twitter (@nslpodcast).

    Episode 179: This Podcast Is “Considerably Recalibrated”

    Episode 179: This Podcast Is “Considerably Recalibrated”

    So we took a week off without warning because, you know, 2020.  But we’re back, and we sure don’t lack for things to discuss and debate!  Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney weigh in on:



    * The NY Times story reporting a request from AFRICOM to expand targeting authorities involving al Shabaab in Kenya in particular.

    * The President’s denial, and then confirmation, that he favored trying to kill Bashar al-Assad.

    * DOJ launching a criminal investigation of former National Security Advisor John Bolton.

    * DOJ moving to interpose the U.S. government as defendant in a defamation suit stemming from President Trump’s answer to questions relating to rape allegations.

    * A federal judge’s decision to invoke Lochner (!!!) en route to declaring various Pennsylvania public health measures unconstitutional.

    * Whether the military can subject a person to court martial for an offense allegedly committed prior to a break in service, where the person already was prosecuted (unsuccessfully) in a state court.

    * The latest twists and turns with TikTok and WeChat under IEEPA and CFIUS



    And the Mandalorian trailer…OMG OMG OMG

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    Episode 178: What Would Robert Jackson Do?

    Episode 178: What Would Robert Jackson Do?

    We are back after a week off, and apparently your co-hosts used the extra time to sharpen disagreements about old school topics like … GTMO!  Tune in for:



    * An extended debate over the D.C. Circuit’s Al Hela decision, including everything from the scope of the NDAA FY’12 detention provisions to the applicability of the Due Process Clause at GTMO

    * A shorter discussion of similar issues that also arose last week in the district court’s ruling in Uthman

    * About the Hatch Act….I mean, good heavens.



    We also include a Chadwick Boseman appreciation, in lieu of our usual frivolity.  And it somehow turns into a discussion of deep fakes, too.

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    Episode 177: This Podcast Does Not Have a Navy

    Episode 177: This Podcast Does Not Have a Navy

    We are back with a new episode, bringing you respectful disagreements and discussion–not to mention heaps of frivolity–about the latest national security law news.  This week, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss:



    * Attorney General Barr’s offer to eschew the death penalty in order to enable the UK to provide the US with inculpatory evidence against the two Islamic State “Beatles” detainees currently in US military custody…and his promise that they mean will be transferred to Iraq for prosecution if this doesn’t occur by October 15.

    * The GAO’s legal memo concluding that the senior-most DHS officials do not hold their positions lawfully (thanks to the distinction between regular and “catastrophic” vacancy scenarios)

    * The United States Postal Service strikes back…through the law enforcement officers in its Inspection Service.  Didn’t know that was a thing?  Neither did Steve Bannon, most likely, but that’s who arrested him…

    * The Fifth Circuit won’t show its cards with respect to whether the all-male military draft rule remains constitutional given that the role of women in the military has changed so much since Rostker…will SCOTUS take the case though?

    * Some National Security Division updates



    All that, plus 80s soundtrack frivolity!

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Episode 176: This Podcast Won’t Play Football This Fall

    Episode 176: This Podcast Won’t Play Football This Fall

    We were out last week…what’d we miss?

    Oh.

    So, there was much we could have covered this week, but we decided to focus on these three:



    * The First Circuit ruling vacating the Tsarnaev (Boston Marathon Bombing) death penalty based on concerns about jury bias

    * The President’s decision to sanction TikTok and WeChat

    * Legal questions raised by the quartet of executive orders and other presidential directives over the weekend relating to COVID-19 economic relief, including an important federalism question relating to the scope of CDC/HHS pandemic-response authority.



    As for frivolity: we discuss whether and how college football will unfold this fall (or maybe this spring, or maybe not at all), but more importantly we also ask listeners to weigh next week on an important topic: Best movie soundtracks of the 1980s.  Which is pretty funny because, well, that was the subject of frivolity in Episode 50, and neither of us remembered that while recording the current episode!  In fairness, that was fall 2017, which was like 623 years ago…

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    Episode 175: The President Has No Authority to Delay This Podcast

    Episode 175: The President Has No Authority to Delay This Podcast

    We delay this program just fine without his help, thank you very much.  Well, I guess you can see what we are leading with this evening.  The run-of-show:



    * President Trump’s suggestion about delaying the election

    * Michael Cohen will be home, and writing, after all

    * Michael Flynn, on the other hand, can’t be so sure about staying home thanks to the en banc D.C. Circuit (until he gets a pardon, that is)

    * The Tata nomination in tatters?

    * Revisiting Portland and trying to zero in on the most significant elements in that story

    * The Second Circuit’s curious decision in Hassoun



    All that plus live reactions as the Mets drop another one, as the NBA restarts, and as Watchmen quite rightly rakes in the Emmy nominations.

    • 1 hr 23 min
    Episode 174: Portland Trailblazing

    Episode 174: Portland Trailblazing

    This week we don’t lack for topics, to say the least. Tune in for in-the-weeds discussion of:



    * Trumplandia meets Portlandia 1: What’s the legal basis for DHS components engaging in law enforcement activity there?

    * Trumplandia meets Portlandia 2: Since when can you just shoot a non-violent person in the head with a “less-than-lethal” round?

    * Trumplandia meets Portlandia 3: What’s the legal framework for DHS collection and analysis of intelligence relating to property-protective missions?

    * Meanwhile, Michael Cohen litigates BOP’s ability to send him back to jail for publishing a book

    * Meanwhile, in regular law enforcement: terrorism charges for an MS-13 leader

    * Meanwhile, at GTMO: A remarkable sanction against the government issued by the trial judge in the Majid Khan military commission case

    * Meanwhile in Europe: The Court of Justice of the European Union blows up Privacy Shield based on concerns involving Section 702 and also 12,333 collection

    * Meanwhile in the 9th Circuit: A sharp dispute over the interaction of FISA and the state-secrets privilege just might set the stage for SCOTUS to weigh in



    And then, after all, we have what we must admit was a desultory frivolity segment.  Though maybe that is purposeful performance art, projecting how the MLB “regular season” is going to feel…

     

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