The paradox of American freedom The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Sean Illing talks with Sebastian Junger, journalist, filmmaker, and author of the recent book Freedom. Informed by his experience hiking (and trespassing) along America's rail lines, Junger discusses the paradoxes of a "free" society, his recent near-death experience, and how the definition of freedom can change over the course of a life.
Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
Guest: Sebastian Junger (@sebastianjunger), author & filmmaker
References: 


Freedom by Sebastian Junger (Simon & Schuster; 2021)


The Last Patrol dir. Sebastian Junger (HBO Films; 2014)


Our Political Nature: Two Evolutionary Origins of What Divides Us by Avi Tuschman (Rowman & Littlefield; 2013)


Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging by Sebastian Junger (Twelve; 2016)


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This episode was made by: 


Producer: Erikk Geannikis


Editor: Amy Drozdowska


Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey


Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall


Vox Audio Fellow: Victoria Dominguez


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