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Weekly podcast exploring views about the Trinity, and more generally about God and Jesus in Christian theology and philosophy. Debates, interviews, and historical and contemporary perspectives. Hosted by philosopher of religion / analytic theologian Dr. Dale Tuggy.

Trinities Dale Tuggy

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Weekly podcast exploring views about the Trinity, and more generally about God and Jesus in Christian theology and philosophy. Debates, interviews, and historical and contemporary perspectives. Hosted by philosopher of religion / analytic theologian Dr. Dale Tuggy.

    podcast 333 – The Arguments of “God’s Death”

    podcast 333 – The Arguments of “God’s Death”

    Humor, used carefully, can be a powerful weapon of argument. In this episode I analyze a little humorous historical fiction called "God's Death: A Counterfactual Historical Reconstruction" which was recently featured on Mark Cain's Unitarian Christian Alliance Podcast.







    When I first heard it, I laughed out loud multiple times. But on reflection, I realized that the piece is presenting serious arguments about interpreting the New Testament in comedy form. In this episode I explain what those are and how they relate to some of my work on this topic.







    I present the audio in the first segment of this episode; for the full effect, the YouTube version is recommended.







    The type of reasoning I discuss in this episode manifestly does not assume the truth of unitarianism. Rather, it comes to the texts looking for what fits or misfits various competing Christian theologies. This way of thinking critically about what we do and do not observe in the New Testament is contrasted with some poor habits of thought we often see in apologetics. Importantly, this way of reasoning can help you to make up your mind about what the New Testament on the whole teaches about Jesus and God even if you're not sure what to make of a few difficult passages.







    Links for this episode:







    Unitarian Christian Alliance Podcast















    UCA podcast episode 19. Credibility and God's Death







    Video version: "God's Death - A Counterfactual Historical Reconstruction"







    podcast 323 – Did God die on the cross? 







    podcast 145 – ‘Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies! 







    podcast 178 – Apologists on how God can die – Part 1







    podcast 179 – Apologists on how God can die – Part 2...

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    trinities 332 - Emlyn's Humble Inquiry

    trinities 332 - Emlyn's Humble Inquiry

    Thomas Emlyn was a beloved minister in a Presbyterian church in Dublin, Ireland. But he and a friend decided to investigate some recent controversies about "the Trinity," and eventually Emlyn found himself seeing the New Testament in a unitarian light. Not being a contentious person, he avoided such topics in the pulpit. But when his true convictions came to light, he was immediately forced out, and he even had to flee the country until the controversy died down.







    Coming back, in 1702 he wrote this little book to explain his convictions: An Humble Inquiry into the Scripture-Account of Jesus Christ: A Short Argument concerning His Deity and Glory, according to the Gospel. The result? Jail and an unjustly large fine - the result of Ireland's then-current "blasphemy" laws!







    In this episode I present some excerpts of the just-published Updated Edition of this lost classic. Beloved by previous generations of unitarian Christians, this edition makes Emlyn's sure-footed, biblical critique of the deity of Christ accessible to today's readers.







    There's also an exciting announcement for UCA Partners at the beginning of this episode!















    Links for this episode:







    Emlyn's An Humble Inquiry @ Amazon







    Theophilus Press (UCA blog post)







    Emlyn's Works (reprint of 1746 edition)







    Emlyn @ the Dictionary of National Biography







    You can become a UCA Partner here.







    Kegan Chandler's blog Buried Deep







    Chandler's Constantine and the Divine Mind







    A letter from the Lord Jesus: About God and Me (Revised)







    podcast 124 – a challenge to “Jesus is God” apologists/a...

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    podcast 331 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on the metaphysics of monarchical trinitarianism

    podcast 331 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on the metaphysics of monarchical trinitarianism

    At one point, influenced by the great Christian philosopher Richard Swinburne, Dr. Joshua Sijuwade held to a "social" Trinty. But now, following Beau Branson, he holds to a "monarchical trinitarian" view on which the one God just is the Father, and also there is a divine Son and a divine Spirit.







    But he's continued to think about the issues, now influenced by some work by Timothy Pawl and by metaphysician E.J. Lowe. In some ways, he's trying to bring together a Swinburnean view of "the Trinity" with a Bransonian one, as we saw in episode 330.







    In this episode Dr. Joshua Sijuwade and I discuss the ideas in his recent article "Monarchical Trinitarianism: A Metaphysical Proposal." In this paper Dr. Sijuwade tries to develop the monarchical model using recent metaphysician E.J. Lowe's 4-category ontology, so as to answer what he calls the multiple-natures problem and the multiple-modes problem. Specifically, he applies Lowe's way of thinking about objects and their properties, as shown in this chart.















    I press Dr. Sijuwade on what I think is a more fundamental problem for "monarchical trinitarianism" which is that it appears to assert three gods, as it features three things, the Persons, each of which has all that it takes to be a god. In his replies he explains why he is not concerned about that.







    At the very end of this episode I make a couple of important announcements!







    Links for this episode:







    podcast 330 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on the monarchy of the Father







    podcast 329 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on divine identity







    Tim Pawl, "Conciliar Trinitarianism, Divine Identity Claims, and Subordination"







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    podcast 330 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on the monarchy of the Father

    podcast 330 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on the monarchy of the Father

    In this episode Dr. Sijuwade and I discuss his recent article "Building the Monarchy of the Father".







    Topics include:







    * what constitutes biblical monotheism* different meanings of the word "God"* whether Dr. Sijuwade's theology should be understand as trinitarian or as unitarian* whether by definition a trinitarian theology must imply monotheism* different ideas of subordination* the dependence of this project on traditional claims about divine "processions"* different analyses of divine aseity* perfect being theology* arguments by Dr. Ryan Mullins about divine aseity vs. divine processions* extrinsic vs. intrinsic properties.







    Links for this episode:







    podcast 329 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on divine identity







    "Building the Monarchy of the Father"







    Dr. Sijuwade’s Academa.edu page







    John 17:1-3; 1 Corinthians 8:4-6; John 20:17; Hebrews 1:8-9.







    David Kelley on How to Evaluate Definitions







    podcast 246 – Response to Branson Part 4 – the shortcomings of “monarchical trinitarianism”







    podcast 245 – Response to Branson Part 3 – Dueling Definitions







    podcast 244 – Response to Branson Part 2 – Early Orthodox Trinitarians







    podcast 243 – Response to Branson Part 1 – The Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity







    podcast 242 – Dr. Beau Branson on the Monarchy of the Father – Part 4







    podcast 241 – Dr. Beau Branson on the Monarchy of the Father – Part 3







    podcast 240 – Dr. Beau Branson on the Monarchy of the Father – Part 2







    podcast 239 – Dr. Beau Branson on the Monarchy of the Father – Part 1







    podcast 164 – On Counting Gods







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    podcast 329 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on divine identity

    podcast 329 – Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on divine identity

    Dr. Richard Bauckham has urged, especially in his book Jesus and the God of Israel, that everywhere in the New Testament Jesus is taught to "have the divine identity" or to "belong to the identity of God" or to be "included in the divine identity." Such language has widely proliferated in recent evangelical scholarship.







    In a 2013 article to which Dr. Bauckham has never responded, I pointed out that the meaning of this new language is unclear, and that various interpretations run into serious problems.







    But of course those were not the only possible interpretations. In his 2020 article "Elucidating Divine Identity" Dr. Joshua Sijuwade suggests that a certain conception of essence can clarify in what sense the biblical Jesus "belongs to the identity of" God. In this episode we discuss his ideas in this article.







    In your view, do Dr. Sijuwade's suggestions clarify Dr. Backham's claim that Jesus "belongs to the identity" of God? Why or why not?







    Links for this episode:







    Sijuwade, "Elucidating Divine Identity," Heythrop Journal, 2020







    Dr. Sijuwade's Academa.edu page







    podcast 13 – On Bauckham's Bargain (published paper)







    podcast 214 – Has Bauckham clarified his “divine identity” theory? – Part 2







    podcast 213 – Has Bauckham clarified his “divine identity” theory? – Part 1















    podcast 124 – a challenge to “Jesus is God” apologists







    Is Jesus Human and Not Divine?







    Identity







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    podcast 328 – 13 bad reasons to switch from trinitarian to unitarian

    podcast 328 – 13 bad reasons to switch from trinitarian to unitarian

    In this episode I discuss thirteen bad reasons for switching one's theology from trinitarian to unitarian, reasons which I've actually encountered "in the wild." Some of these claims are false. Others are true but not relevant enough. Others are vague (false on some interpretations but true on others) but never a good reason for switch.







    These reasons are:















    * "The Trinity" is incoherent (i.e. self-contradictory).* Trinitarians simply confuse together Jesus and God.* "The Trinity" amounts to three gods.* Unitarian Christian theology is the only Christian way to be monotheistic.* The Trinity was invented at Nicea - or at least at one of those councils.* Trinitarians have always been vicious persecutors.* "The Trinity" has pagan roots.* The New Testament  is Hebraic, not Hellenistic. But you need Hellenistic terminology to even state "the doctrine of the Trinity."* Jesus did not teach "the Trinity."* The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible.* Trinity theories are confusing.* Most Christians in officially trinitarian groups are confused about what "the Trinity" amounts to and are afraid to look into the matter.* The most learned trinitarians disagree with one another about what "the doctrine of the Trinity" is.







    I explain in detail why in my view each of these is a bad reason for switching. When I switched, it was not for any of these reasons.







    Then I briefly mention two good reasons to switch, and answer some interesting listener questions.















    Links for this episode:







    You can support the trinities podcast at patreon.com.







    The Standard Opening Move [of apologists re: "the Trinity"]







    1.4 Trinity as Incoherent







    one-self Trinity theories







    three-self Trinity theories







    An argument against Son-modalism







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Dr. Tuggy presents wonderful ideas and thought provoking stances that reminds me of sitting in my philosophy classes. Just as reading some text, the information is plentiful but I urge people to devour the knowledge slowly and you will not receive mental indigestion! I miss my philosophy classes

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Dr Tuggy’s podcast presents a wide array of thought and knowledge, that is both interesting and informative. You will be exposed to an amazing variety of topics of theological, philosophical, and historical interest.

Don’t bother if you already know everything and don’t like to be questioned or disturbed. But if you don’t mind having your preheld certainties challenged, you will likely not only gain knowledge but also enjoy the process.

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