21 episodes

Unseen Unknown is a brand and business strategy podcast about the hidden threads that connect even the most distant of cultural concepts. We look at the emerging trends and behaviors that may be pointing to a deeper truth and ask the bigger question, “Why is society moving in this direction, and how can we apply it to business?”

We believe if we can’t see it in our culture, then we can’t know it in the market. From retail and consumerism to politics, gender, identity and values, there are patterns everywhere that illuminate a path forward for brands.

Your hosts, Jasmine Bina and Jean-Louis Rawlence, are brand strategists and futurists that explore these questions every day in their work for companies around the world. We’ll be interviewing thought leaders and domain experts both within brand strategy and outside of it.

Expect to hear from people from all walks of life: artists, scientists, CEOs, journalists, professors, technologists and everyone in between.

If you’re a founder, leader, storyteller or creator, this podcast will compel you to think at a macro level you haven’t considered before.

We also write and publish videos on everything brand strategy. You can see all of that here: https://www.theconceptbureau.com/

Unseen Unknown Jasmine Bina, Jean-Louis Rawlence

    • Business
    • 4.9 • 65 Ratings

Unseen Unknown is a brand and business strategy podcast about the hidden threads that connect even the most distant of cultural concepts. We look at the emerging trends and behaviors that may be pointing to a deeper truth and ask the bigger question, “Why is society moving in this direction, and how can we apply it to business?”

We believe if we can’t see it in our culture, then we can’t know it in the market. From retail and consumerism to politics, gender, identity and values, there are patterns everywhere that illuminate a path forward for brands.

Your hosts, Jasmine Bina and Jean-Louis Rawlence, are brand strategists and futurists that explore these questions every day in their work for companies around the world. We’ll be interviewing thought leaders and domain experts both within brand strategy and outside of it.

Expect to hear from people from all walks of life: artists, scientists, CEOs, journalists, professors, technologists and everyone in between.

If you’re a founder, leader, storyteller or creator, this podcast will compel you to think at a macro level you haven’t considered before.

We also write and publish videos on everything brand strategy. You can see all of that here: https://www.theconceptbureau.com/

    21: The Secret Language of Cult Brands

    21: The Secret Language of Cult Brands

    Cults make effective brands, and today, they’re all around us. Perhaps the most insidious way cults have influenced our reality is in everyday language that’s meant to control behaviors and change perspectives. It’s language we use with friends and colleagues, language in our media and content, and language we hear coming from today’s most powerful CEOs, on branded websites and in keynote addresses.

    In this episode we’re talking with Amanda Montell, a language scholar and author of the critically acclaimed book, ‘Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism’ to understand why cults have had a resurgence in branding and in real life. Cults and businesses have always been intertwined, and understanding how they use the power of language to move people is the first step to decoding how they work.

    • 44 min
    20: Ownership Anxiety, Brand Storytelling, and the Human Condition

    20: Ownership Anxiety, Brand Storytelling, and the Human Condition

    Today and throughout history, a mere six competing stories of ownership have dictated how everything in the world is distributed. As resources have become scarcer, everyone from American homesteaders and ranchers, to tech leaders and consumer brands, have created ways to impose their own preferred ownership story in a world where what it means to “own” something is constantly evolving.

    We speak with Michael Heller and James Salzman, two of the world’s leading scholars and authorities on ownership, and co-authors of the book Mine!: How The Hidden Rules of Ownership Control Our Lives. They explain to us how the rules of ownership change in every generation, and how those changes reveal the true brand landscape, the role of business, and most importantly, a society’s shifting values.

    • 49 min
    19: Systems In Flux: Birth of the New Spiritual Consumer

    19: Systems In Flux: Birth of the New Spiritual Consumer

    For the fourth and final episode in our series on Systems In Flux, we’re talking about seemingly new emerging forms of spirituality, and how new spiritual brands are positioning themselves to take advantage of our collective movement towards wanting to be both categorized but at the same time free from conventional binary definitions.

    Allegra Hobbs is a journalist who’s explored the phenomenon of the Enneagram. She found that the Enneagram and other categorizing devices like it have also seemingly crossed over into the mainstream because we find ourselves in a perpetual state of isolation and alienation—something Rachel Lo discovered as she developed the dating app Struck, which helps match people based on their astrological signs.

    • 44 min
    18: Systems In Flux: A Unified Theory of Culture, Branding, and Human Behavior

    18: Systems In Flux: A Unified Theory of Culture, Branding, and Human Behavior

    Every single culture and subculture - from states and governments to user segments and brand tribes - falls along the tight-loose continuum. A culture’s tightness or looseness affects people’s perceptions of threat, how they relate to each other, how they consume, and of course the narratives that shape the businesses and brands that form within that culture. In this third episode in our series on Systems In Flux, we speak with Michele Gelfand, cultural psychologist and author of ‘Rule Makers, Rule Breakers’ about the invisible systems that make a culture relaxed or rigid, and the surprising tradeoffs involved.

    • 47 min
    17: Systems In Flux: Class, Taste and the Modern Aspiration Economy

    17: Systems In Flux: Class, Taste and the Modern Aspiration Economy

    For the second episode in our series on Systems In Flux, we’re talking with brand strategist and sociologist Ana Andjelic about systems of class and taste. In the past 10 years, new brands have emerged, specifically in luxury and premium categories, that point to a divergence in our social systems around what class and taste are, and how they are achieved. Ana talks about the rise of the Modern Aspiration Economy and how the brands of this new economy have done something remarkable: they’ve successfully decoupled class from money, and taste from wealth.

    • 48 min
    16: Systems In Flux: The Hidden Divergent Forces Shaping The Next Generation of Brands, Consumers, and Capitalism

    16: Systems In Flux: The Hidden Divergent Forces Shaping The Next Generation of Brands, Consumers, and Capitalism

    Whether it’s brand, behavior, or culture, the more you dig into the systems that affect our lives the closer you’ll come to a conversation about capitalism. While capitalism as a model may seem unchanging at a glance, look a little closer and you’ll start to see patterns of change. In this house episode, Jasmine and Jean-Louis dig into divergent systems, the unstable behavior of markets, and how the rules we’ve trusted for a century are now ushering in a new generation of brands, consumers, and capital. This is the first of a series of episodes exploring how divergent systems are shaping the business landscape.

    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
65 Ratings

65 Ratings

Sspiccia ,

I just binged 8 episodes

As someone who has to stay on top of social, psychology, & cultural trends, this IS my podcast. Yall got it all here!

Con_Todo ,

Fiercely Intelligent

I”m absolutely addicted to this podcast! It’s a fascinating look at culture through the lens of brands. Jasmine, Jean-Louis, and their guests break it down with insight and intellect. Highly recommend!

Jason Kent Crowell ,

My Absolute Favorite Podcast

This podcast is consistently out ahead and provides the audience thoughtful insight for what’s coming next. Love it!

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