90 episodes

Upside Down Podcast is an ecumenical podcast at the intersection of justice, spirituality, and culture. Join us for conversations about God's Upside Down Kingdom. No topic is off limits. Upside Down Podcast is a collaborative Christian podcast co-founded by Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace. Some of our most popular guests have included Christena Cleveland, Dr. John Perkins, Shane Claiborne, Jo Saxton, Father Greg Boyle, Shannan Martin, and Dominique Gilliard. Popular episodes have featured the enneagram, gentrification, nonviolence, vocations and callings, immigration, and more. Upside Down is proud to be an ecumenical podcast, bridging the gap between Catholic and Protestant thought. Visit www.upsidedownpodcast.com or follow us on Instagram at @upsidedownpodcast.

Upside Down Podcast Kayla Craig, Lindsy Wallace

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.8 • 242 Ratings

Upside Down Podcast is an ecumenical podcast at the intersection of justice, spirituality, and culture. Join us for conversations about God's Upside Down Kingdom. No topic is off limits. Upside Down Podcast is a collaborative Christian podcast co-founded by Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace. Some of our most popular guests have included Christena Cleveland, Dr. John Perkins, Shane Claiborne, Jo Saxton, Father Greg Boyle, Shannan Martin, and Dominique Gilliard. Popular episodes have featured the enneagram, gentrification, nonviolence, vocations and callings, immigration, and more. Upside Down is proud to be an ecumenical podcast, bridging the gap between Catholic and Protestant thought. Visit www.upsidedownpodcast.com or follow us on Instagram at @upsidedownpodcast.

    Season 5 | Episode 87: The Necessity of Accountability with Tiffany Bluhm

    Season 5 | Episode 87: The Necessity of Accountability with Tiffany Bluhm

    “Silence is not spiritual, and action is not optional.” Author, speaker, and podcast host Tiffany Bluhm talks with host Patricia Taylor about accountability and abuse—particularly in faith spaces—and the hard questions we must ask.
    TW: This episode covers spiritual abuse, though it does not go into specific details. Still, we want to allow listeners whose stories may include abuse to be aware of what’s coming.
    In this episode, we:
    Discuss Tiffany’s latest book, Prey Tell: Why We Silence Women Who Tell the Truth and How Everyone Can Speak UpTalk about how women are expected to “play by the rules” set by culture, society, and the churchCover the gaslighting that happens when speaking truth, the weaponization of scripture, and the insulation of men in powerAsk why abuse happens so often in faith spaces and what elements allow for thisConsider how many of us don’t want to believe that we can offer our trust to an untrustworthy leader, leading to silence and complicityDiscuss the systemic nature of abuse, what it takes to dismantle those systems, and the cost of speaking up and speaking outTalk about how Jesus addressed the powerful and their abuse of authority while leveling hierarchies and ushering in equity Join us for this discussion about taking an honest look at abuse and what it takes to pursue love as justice. We invite you to lean into the liberating and healing ways of Jesus as we expand and challenge the familiar if it’s not leading us closer to love. 
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Check out Tiffany’s website and follow her on Instagram.Have you grabbed your copy of “Prey Tell” yet? Find it here! This post about spiritual abuse from Reclaiming My Theology. An encouragement from K.J. Ramsey, as well as this wisdom.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 46 min
    Season 5 | Episode 86: The Necessity of (Kingdom) Economics

    Season 5 | Episode 86: The Necessity of (Kingdom) Economics

    Is there truly enough for everyone, and do we really believe there is abundance? Hosts Alissa Molina, Patricia Taylor, Kayla Craig, and Lindsy Wallace discuss what it means to live out of a posture of abundance in a world that has conditioned us to believe in scarcity. 
    In this episode, we:
    Talk about how we seem to embrace the concept of spiritual abundance yet struggle with the idea of abundance of what we have in this world Discuss how the mindset of scarcity is incompatible with what we profess to believe and how the economic system of our culture thrives on a scarcityDive into how we shift what we believe “enough” means and how much we needConsider whether or not our economic system is an idol and a place from which we draw our sense of securityCover the impact that grind culture, meritocracy, and white supremacy have on our relationships, time, priorities, and moreJoin us for this thought-provoking conversation about kingdom economics. We hope that it catalyzes honest conversations with your community related to stewardship and taking a posture of abundance together.
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Lindsy quoted a snippet from The Biblical Vision of Sabbath Economics by Ched Myers.Bookmark this poem by Jessica Faith Kantrowitz.Add Can't Even: How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation by Anne Helen Petersen to your reading list.We’re big fans of Money and Possessions by Walter Brueggemann.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 52 min
    Season 5 | Episode 85: The Necessity of Liberation with Danté Stewart

    Season 5 | Episode 85: The Necessity of Liberation with Danté Stewart

    What does a liberated faith look like? Writer and speaker Danté Stewart talks with co-hosts Patricia Taylor and Lindsy Wallace about the meaning of liberation and how it impacts how we view God, ourselves, and the world.
    In this episode, we:
    Reflect on the complex, beautiful, and terrible journey of liberation, the changes we make along the way, and how we look at the world within ourselves and the world around usDiscuss the influence of writer and activist James Baldwin and the invitation from Baldwin to wrestle deeply and truthfullyTalk about the influence of Black womanist theologians and how they shape Danté’s understanding of liberationGo in depth about how liberation asks us to look at the story of Jesus and see the ways in which he invites us into a better story of God and ourselves than the stories many of us are offeredDiscuss the symbols, myths, and metaphors about God that we have inherited, and how those have oftentimes been incredibly limitedJoin us for this deep conversation with Danté about the significance of the word liberation and how it gives us the ability to narrate our story and have eyes to see an enlarged view of the world.
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Keep up with Danté’s work by checking out his website, following him on Instagram, and following him on Twitter. You can find the Instagram post we referenced here. The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin is essential reading.We can’t wait to read World of Wonders: In Praise of Fireflies, Whale Sharks, and Other Astonishments by Aimee Nezhukumatathil.Add these books to the stack: Critical Terms for Religious Studies by Mark C. Taylor, In Search of Our Mothers’ Garden by Alice Walker, and Said I Wasn’t Gonna Tell Nobody: The Making of a Black Theologian by James Cone.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 50 min
    Season 5 | Episode 84: The Necessity of Growth with Justin McRoberts

    Season 5 | Episode 84: The Necessity of Growth with Justin McRoberts

    How do you know when you’ve grown, and how does that growth show up in other parts of your life? Speaker, author, musician, curator, and previous podcast guest Justin McRoberts talks with co-hosts Kayla Craig and Patricia Taylor about what growth does in us in our faith, our relationships, and the risks we must take.
    In this episode, we:
    Chat about Justin’s upcoming book, It Is What You Make of ItReflect on the act of discernment and the sense of possibility the process can give usChallenge the idea of certainty and “getting it right” when it comes to discernment and how that way of thinking impacts our view of GodDiscuss the freedom to explore new things that comes with a deep sense of safetyTalk about the role of mentors, coaches, and community as well as the significance of having people invest in your growth for the long haulAsk what our measurement for success is and how we even define itDiscuss storytelling and the power it has to invite others to enter into something that’s different or new to themJoin us as we talk with Justin about deconstruction, reconstruction, and the process of evolving. 
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Looking for more from Justin McRoberts? Find him on Instagram and check out his podcast, @ Sea with Justin McRoberts. You can also pre-order his newest book, It Is What You Make of It, which is out in June.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 55 min
    Season Five | Episode 83: The Necessity of Lent

    Season Five | Episode 83: The Necessity of Lent

    What would it look like if we experienced the Lenten season as a time in which we find God in all things, including the suffering? Writer Cameron Bellm and co-host Alissa Molina have a rich conversation about “the ministry of beautiful hard” and how Lent is an invitation for all of us.
    In this episode, we:
    Talk about the act of joining and seeking to identify with Christ during the Lenten seasonConsider Lent as a sacred invitation to draw near and to enter into the suffering we’re already experiencing with contemplation Dispel the idea that repentance is about shameDiscuss how Lent is not an olympic sport, and the way we each engage it is unique to what brings us close to GodTalk about Cameron’s partnership with Lauren of Brick House in the City to create a devotional that helps folks walk this Lenten path with a diverse group of saintsPonder the metaphor of the lotus flower: something beautiful that blooms out of a challenging placeJoin us as we have a conversation about walking through Lent from the posture of paying attention to what draws us near to God and deeper into the mystery. 
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Journey through Lent with No Unlikely Saints – A Lenten Pilgrimage With Sacred Company, ℅ Brick House in the City.We’ll be camping out at this quote from this article for awhile: “The lotus flower blooms most beautifully from the deepest and thickest mud.”Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 47 min
    Season 5 | Episode 82: The Necessity of Dreaming

    Season 5 | Episode 82: The Necessity of Dreaming

    Why is dreaming so significant, and how do you dream freely? Inspired by National Youth Poet Laureate Amanda Gorman’s beautiful inauguration poem, co-hosts Patricia Taylor, Kayla Craig, Lindsy Wallace, and Alissa Molina discuss the necessity of dreaming and having prophetic imagination.
    In this episode, we:
    Talk about the boundlessness of dreaming and how it gives us vision for possibilities Ask how creativity relates to dreamingConsider our roles as co-creators with a creator GodAsk how we come to lose our imagination and wonder what we are missing out on when that happensTalk about the need for a community to show us that which we can’t see on our own and who can enter into dreaming with usExplore what it means to have the freedom and openness to dream Join us as we discuss what inspires us to dream, how those around us can be a part of it, what can keep us from dreaming, and the need for prophetic imagination. 
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Grab a copy of The Hill We Climb by Amanda Gorman and read a transcript of her inauguration poem here.Check out artist Morgan Harper Nichols on Instagram! We can’t recommend The Prophetic Imagination by Walter Brueggemann enough.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
    Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 47 min

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4.8 out of 5
242 Ratings

242 Ratings

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Great Content and Community

It’s so nice to have a spiritual podcast that’s about loving our neighbors. In a time filled with prosperity gospel and christian nationalism, it’s a joy to have a group of women speaking truth about downward mobility and sacrificial love.

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Real talk

Thank you for talking about the hard stuff. Great content. Thank you!

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Great podcast

I love listening to the ladies talk about real life and real issues. Thank for you! Keep going

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