Vicarious Alex Scott & Karen White

Alex and Karen talk with Marysia Tyski, the founder of Rish Jewelry, and her apprentice (and fiancé!) Michael Nunweiler to learn all about their business ventures and the art of jewelry making. Alex and Karen get a rundown of the different jewelry-making processes and dive even further into Marysia and Michael’s own processes for creating their beautiful works, from their sources of inspiration to the craftsmanship that goes into every piece. In addition to speaking about the creative side of their work, they get into the nitty-gritty details of running and growing a business, how their work and partnership has grown and evolved over time, and where they see it going from here. They also share their personal tastes in both jewelry and fashion, and discuss the power that can come from wearing the right pieces. 
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Follow Marysia @rishjewelry
Follow Michael @traversmetal
Go to rishjewelry.com and traversmetal.com to view and purchase their beautiful wares!
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Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.
Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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Creative Recommendations:
Underdressed at the Symphony - Faye Webster (2024)Trouble Pagan Altar

Alex and Karen welcome back Chris Johnson, their first returning interviewee (S1, E5), and his writing partner Carson Rekert to talk about their current collaboration on a horror movie screenplay, as well as their many experiences together as friends, coworkers, and roommates. Chris and Carson get into their collaboration style; their trust in one another; and how they’ve been able to stay invested in the project for 5+ years, even through huge life changes like Carson becoming a father. They also share how their love of music is incorporated into their movie writing, and how even bad movies can serve as inspiration.
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Follow Chris @shoreloser
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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com
Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.
Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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Creative Recommendations:
Messy - Olivia Dean (2023)Blvd Gardens of East Vancouver20 min Water Element Yoga - Yoga with KassandraLate Night with the Devil (2023)Unsub Book Series

Alex and Karen are joined this week by musician, writer, teacher and certified fashionista (at least in Karen’s mind) Francis Henson! He brings with him a lot of great topics for them to dive into, like the idea of artistic identity as intent rather than content; our connection to music and art in adolescence; and music as a study of humanity. They explore Francis’ globetrotting childhood that began in The Philippines and brought him to Kazakhstan before ending up here in Vancouver, and talk about what effects that had on his understanding of himself and the world around him. And if that wasn’t enough, they also have a very impassioned discussion about fashion and the trends that they love to hate.
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Follow Francis @francishenson and his groups @frankieandthejuicebox and @bigfuzzmusic
check out his website francishenson.com for more info on his music projects.
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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com
Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.
Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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Creative Recommendations:
Thinking Fast and Slow - Daniel KahnemanKitchen Confidential - Anthony BourdainAnthony Bourdain : No ReservationsArticles of Interest

Alex and Karen sit down with musicians Sam Dowdell (Emilyn) and Keely Rammage-Scott to talk about their work with The Project Vancity, a music initiative that works toward community building by bringing a variety of musicians in the Vancouver music scene together to create video series, shows, and other creative works. Sam and Keely share how they individually got involved with the project and how it’s evolved since they joined the team, and get into the nitty gritty of what it takes to run a registered non-profit that works with “creative people, not organized people”. They get into so many different aspects of the project, such as the challenges they face working with such a large roster of volunteers; why creating a safe space is at the forefront of the group’s mission; the aspects of the project that are most meaningful for them; and the importance of a vibe check when deciding on who to work with.
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Follow Keely Rammage-Scott @keely_leah
Follow Sam Dowdell/Emilyn
@emilynmakesmusic
@samisacoach
Follow @theprojectvancity to see what projects and events they’ve got coming up next!
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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com
Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.
Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify

Alex and Karen talk to photographer, illustrator, and chef Marshall To about his many artistic mediums and how they all intersect. They talk about his creative process and dive into his life-long journey to discover what he’s passionate about. They also discuss his upbringing as a first-generation Chinese-Canadian, and how his family’s culture and Taoist religion shaped him and his art. Marshall also shares details of his relationship with spirituality and how fate has a way of intervening in his life, many times through involuntary encounters with ghosts.
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Follow Marshall on Instagram @marshalljamesto to check out his incredible work.
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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com
Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.
Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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Season 3 is here and the word is: Collaboration! This season will be focusing on the topic of creative collaboration by interviewing not just solo creatives but also creative partners. So, what better creative partners to kick things off with than Alex and Karen themselves? They talk all about their experiences working with each other, from their past music collabs to their current podcast endeavour, and get into the details of how they work together; which roles they gravitate towards; and how their friendship dynamics plays into their professional relationship. They also discuss the importance of collaboration in creative fields, and what topics they are eager to dive into in this season’s interviews.
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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com
Credits: Credits: Hosted and produced by Alex Scott & Karen White. Mixed by Justin Gorrie. Editing & cover art by Alex Scott. Supported by Chernoff Music.
Music by Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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Creative Recommendations:
Show Your Work - Austin KleonThe Creative Act: A Way of Being - Rick Rubin