Episode Two: Drift

How To Be An Artist

For the second episode of How To Be An Artist, Kate Bryan is joined by the Dutch artists Lonneke Gordijn and Ralph Nauta, founders of Drift. Having worked side by side for more than 10 years, the duo discuss how they incorporate technology into their practice and what humans can learn from swarming starlings. Based in Amsterdam, Drift comprises a multidisciplinary team of more than 50 people creating experiential sculptures, installations, and performances. Their work has been exhibited in numerous institutions, including The Victoria and Albert Museum and The Metropolitan Museum of Art. An iteration of their renowned and ongoing Fragile Future series can also be found in Soho House Amsterdam.

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