How I Learned to Love Shrimp Amy Odene & James Ozden

Short but sweet episode this week from Ignacia, author of a recently released book, CEO of a leading organisation in Latin America and mother to two small kids. We're delighted that Ignacia took time out to talk to us about her experiences right across her contributions for animals. 
We chat about Fundacion veg and their campaigns in both diet change and animal welfare as well as the decision for Ignacia to scale down her organisation and what led to this decision. We talk about the importance of country context in campaigning and the challenges when working in this field across Latin America. 
We ran into a whole host of technical difficulties during this episode with unstable connections so please bear with us during the chat and why not head to youtube to see if you can spot the point at which an entire day passes before we resume filming for the remainder of the episode.
Resources: 
www.fundacionveg.orgInstagram: @vegetarianos_hoy and @ignaciauribe Como ser vegano HoyOpen Wing AllianceConnect For Animals newsletter @peter_singer has a very interesting Instagram account@seb.alex and @ryujichua, both have a very unique way to communicate and they speak different languages, which I think it's crucial to get to more people and other cultures where veganism is not that mainstream yetHow can people get more involved in your work? Are you hiring, do you need volunteers and where can people find you?

We don’t have volunteers all year round, but we do calls when we need them, so stay tuned to our social media accounts. We plan to hire a COO this year, so I’d have more time to do lobbying and PR which I think I'm better at, we haven’t published it yet but am very excited for this role.
Chapters
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00:00 // Start
02:36 // Inspiring figures in the movement
05:42 // How to be Vegan Today
10:42 // Balncing work and writing
13:51 // Impact of writing a book to everyday activism
15:51 // The work of Fundacion Veg
23:48 // Approach to campaigning
30:06 // Humanitarian issues
32:01 // Alternate tactics to protesting
37:30 // Biggest successes
41:46 // Senate language case
45:38 // Biggest challenges in Latin America
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Bob Fischer is the Senior Research Manager at Rethink Priorities and Associate Professor of Philosophy at Texas State University.
Can insects feel pain? Should people who care about chickens, cows and pigs also care about reducing the suffering of crickets or black soldier flies? In this episode with Bob Fischer from Rethink Priorities, we try to answer some of those questions, as well as talking about the rapidly growing insect industry, and possible ways for advocates to help farmed insects.
We talk about lots of interesting content and research, for some of which there are excellent visualisations, which we’ll link to at the top of the show notes. I highly recommend checking out the Welfare Range Table and Rethink Priorities’ Welfare Range estimates to help better understand some of the points here, both of which are linked.  
Bob also had a great conversation on the 80,000 Hours Podcast about the moral weights project more broadly and how they want to try to compare welfare across different species of animals. We think they covered it very well, so we didn’t speak much about it today, so we’ll link it for interested folks. 
Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:
Cognitive and hedonic proxies of different animals from Rethink Priorities Moral Weights Project Rethink Priorities’ Welfare Range estimatesFor more on this, listen to Bob’s great episode on the 80,000 Hours podcast Research paper, “Can Insects Feel Pain?”, which found that two orders of insects (which include cockroaches, termites, flies and mosquitos) met more criteria to feel pain than decapod crustaceans (e.g. crabs, lobsters, shrimp), which are recognised as sentient by the UK government. How I Learned To Love Shrimp YouTube Channel Meghan Barrett’s handbook chapterBarn 8 by Deb Olin UnferthDominion by Matthew ScullyDonate to Insect Welfare Research SocietyDonate to Rethink PrioritiesNewsletter for Insect Welfare Research SocietyNewsletter for Rethink Priorities If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Kristie Middleton is  vice president of business development for Rebellyous Foods where she and her team help institutions add more plant-based options to their menus. Kristie’s also the author of MeatLess: Transform the Way You Eat and Live—One Meal at a Time and a long-time animal advocate. 
Rebellyous Foods has created novel manufacturing technology in order to make plant-based chicken more affordable to the masses. Mainly targeting food service providers such as universities and school districts, Kristie, who is Vice president of business development at the venture capital funded company, uses her experience from her days at The Humane Society to ensure that this product is a clean and price comparable product in those markets.
A great episode for those interested in all things plant-based meats and how to scale a company providing this type of product to the masses. 
Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:
Kristie Middleton: MeatLess: Transform the Way You Eat and Live—One Meal at a TimeIn a recent interview with The Food Institute with Christie Lagally 50% of all meals served in Sodexo university settings will be plant-based by 2025Request For Proposals for something called Mock2Josh Balk episode on our podcastAG funder interview re continuous process vs batchingPodcast: Business for Good (start-ups)Food BizWiz by Aly Ball about getting food start-up products into retailRebellyous Foods Hiring(00:00) START
(04:23) ABOUT REBELLYOUS FOODS
(09:31) PATENTED EQUIPMENT
(16:47) EDUCATING THE CONSUMER
(22:12) A GOOD APPROACH MAKES A DIFFERENCE
(28:24) THE MOCK 2
(34:53) ADVANTAGES TO COMPANIES FOCUSED ON PROFIT
(45:46) OTHER AREAS THAT NEED INNOVATION
(51:38) MOMENTS THAT INSPIRED CAREER CHANGE
(01:02:31) FOCUS ON THE MISSION
(01:06:05) CLOSING QUESTIONS
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Jaya is a seasoned operational executive with a rich history of promoting animal welfare in the food retail sector. As the Co-founder and Chief Program Officer of Global Food Partners, a Singapore-based multinational consulting firm, he helps food and hospitality businesses implement their cage-free egg policies across Asia and reduce the cost of cage-free sourcing.
A fascinating episode as we unpick the many advantages of working collaboratively with the industry to advance animal welfare. We chat about the key challenges to this type of work right now, animal welfare challenges in Asia generally and try to understand some of the key barriers for companies implementing improved animal welfare standards for the animals in their care.


Jaya has an absolute wealth of knowledge and experience in this area so it was a real pleasure to hear about his important work and strategic approach. A great listen.


Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:
Global Food Partners websiteWelfare Matters fellowshipAhimsa fellowship in IndiaCurious Vedanth podcastAsia agribusiness podcast (& newsletter)Global Food Partners Podcast Global Food Partners NewsletterChapter Headers:
0:02:38 Why GFP works collaboratively with companies
0:06:10 Market forces and why they matter
0:12:01 Making progress for cage free
0:18:21 Key insights from cage free work in India and Asia
0:20:11 Reputational risk and its limitations in Asia
0:25:59 Forecasting the Asian animal movement
0:31:18 The impact of global welfare commitments on Asian companies
0:36:45 The importance of social proof
0:39:39 Consumers or companies responsibility
0:50:00 Offset credits for cage-free procurement
0:54:51 Cost implications of going cage free
1:08:46 Pushback from other animal advocacy groups
1:12:30 GFP plan for expanding in more countries
1:19:00 Cage free vs broiler commitments in Asia
1:20:22 The need for ecosystems and GFP's work
1:23:02 Career advice for advocates in Asia
1:26:20 Cultivating personal motivation
1:29:24 Closing questions



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Lauren Mee is the CEO & Co-founder of Animal Advocacy Careers, an organisation that tries to match mission-aligned talent to opportunities that accelerate the end of factory farming.
Lauren offloads all she knows about the hiring landscape right now when it comes to careers in animal advocacy. She talks us through some best practices and common pitfalls in the hiring process as well as her take on some of the more strategic questions when it comes to career progression in this space.
Whether you are not yet working in the movement, a manager looking to hire or a mid-level employee looking to advance to something more senior, there is something for everyone in this episode.

Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:
Animal Advocacy Careers pitch on why AAC is needed (from 2019)Charity Evaluation of Animal Advocacy Careers from Charity Entrepreneurship's Research Training ProgramAAC Fundraising skill profile Policy skill profile Sentience Institute podcast AAC websiteAAC ICAPSAAC fundraising placement AAC Inclusive hiring process research AAC online course Laila Kassam talk on YouTubeGiving for Animals PledgeTania Luna books on managementManagement Centre No Rules Rules - The book on how Netflix built an innovative cultureManaging to change the world New German legislation on animal welfare Animal Ask Meat Tax report Cal Newport – So good they can’t ignore youRange - why generalists trump specialists Mindset - Dr Carol DweckBy Jack Kornfield - The heart wisdom podcastCareer advising form - AAC If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Aaron Ross has spent over 20 years working for farmed animals. His relentless dedication to this cause has seen him co-found two major organisations, The Humane League and the Open Wing Alliance and train and advise countless others around the world on corporate relations and movement strategy.
In this episode, we talk through an important topic, longevity, and discuss the advantages and pitfalls of this long-term dedication to this long-term fight. Aaron offers practical advice for those wanting to dedicate their career to helping animals and why staying involved over the long-term has immeasurable advantages.


We’ve really enjoyed delving into a topic that touches less on the organisation goals and more on personal experiences of a deep topic so if you or anyone you know would like to come on to talk about a different area in this same vein, please let us know.  


Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:
EAST - Farmed Animal Welfare Group, Taiwan The Humane League CareersThe Humane League websiteOpen Wing Alliance Mark & Paul Engler – This is an UprisingJim Collins book, Good To Great, and Level 5 leadership33 Strategies of WarHahrie Han - How organisations develop activists Cal Newport - Deep WorkCal Newport - A World Without EmailJocko Willink Podcast Jocko Willink - Extreme OwnershipFranz Kafka's MetamorphosisHypatiaAmy Odene Corporate Campaign Support If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!