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Leaders aren't born, they're made. This Monday show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations. Independently produced weekly since 2011, Dr. Dave Stachowiak brings perspective from a thriving, global leadership academy, plus more than 15 years of leadership at Dale Carnegie. Bestselling authors, expert researchers, deep conversation, and regular dialogue with listeners have attracted 20 million downloads and the #1 search result for management on Apple Podcasts. Activate your FREE membership to search the entire episode library by topic at CoachingforLeaders.com

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Leaders aren't born, they're made. This Monday show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations. Independently produced weekly since 2011, Dr. Dave Stachowiak brings perspective from a thriving, global leadership academy, plus more than 15 years of leadership at Dale Carnegie. Bestselling authors, expert researchers, deep conversation, and regular dialogue with listeners have attracted 20 million downloads and the #1 search result for management on Apple Podcasts. Activate your FREE membership to search the entire episode library by topic at CoachingforLeaders.com

    When You Need to Fire Someone, with Alisa Cohn

    When You Need to Fire Someone, with Alisa Cohn

    Alisa Cohn: From Start-Up to Grown-Up

    Alisa Cohn has been named the Top Startup Coach in the World by the Thinkers50 Marshall Goldsmith Global Coaches Awards and has been coaching startup founders to grow into world-class CEOs for nearly 20 years. She was named the number one “Global Guru” of startups in 2021, and has worked with startup companies such as Venmo, Etsy, DraftKings, The Wirecutter, Mack Weldon, and Tory Burch. She has also coached CEOs and C-Suite executives at enterprise clients such as Dell, Hitachi, Sony, IBM, Google, and many more.



    Marshall Goldsmith selected Alisa as one of his Marshall Goldsmith 100 Coaches – a gathering of the top coaches in the world – and Inc. named Alisa one of the top 100 leadership speakers. Her articles have appeared in Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and Inc. and she has been featured as an expert on Bloomberg TV, the BBC World News and in The New York Times. She is the author of From Start-Up to Grown-Up: Grow Your Leadership to Grow Your Business*.



    In this conversation, Alisa and I discuss the difficult reality that most leaders need to face: saying goodbye to an employee. We detail the mindset you need in preparation for letting someone go. Alisa also helps us with specific language that will help you follow-though on a conversation and help everybody move on — and move forward.

    Key Points



    Our human tendency is often to side-step problems that we need to address.

    By the time you take action to fire somebody, you are likely months late.

    Just because someone was effective in the role previously (or in the last role) doesn’t mean their role is right for them today.

    It’s helpful to be prescriptive in conversations leading up to firing on exactly your expectations — and the actions the other party has agreed to.

    There’s no way to fire someone without it being awkward and painful. You’ll need to make peace with that before you take action.



    Resources Mentioned



    From Start-Up to Grown-Up: Grow Your Leadership to Grow Your Business* by Alisa Cohn



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    • 33 min
    How to Make Progress When Starting Something New, with Michael Bungay Stanier

    How to Make Progress When Starting Something New, with Michael Bungay Stanier

    Michael Bungay Stanier: How to Begin

    Michael Bungay Stanier distills big, complex ideas into practical, accessible knowledge for everyday people so they can be a force for change. His books have sold over a million copies, and The Coaching Habit was a Wall Street Journal bestseller. His TEDx Talk on Taming Your Advice Monster has been viewed more than a million times.



    Michael is the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations transform from advice-driven to curiosity-led action. His new book is titled How to Begin: Start Doing Something That Matters*.



    In this conversation, Michael and I discuss how to make progress when starting something new. We explore the value in looking back at what you’ve already done to support you on what’s next. Plus, Michael highlights the key principles in running effective experiments that transition into new practices.

    Key Points



    Fire bullets at the start. Then, fire cannonballs.

    Discover what your history reveals about your future self. It will open up a window to who you are that will help you when moving on something new.

    When experimenting, don’t make the experiment bigger or more complex than it needs to be.

    Avoid putting too much risk in the experiment or investing too much in its success.

    We have the most learning when we’re struggling with something.



    Resources Mentioned



    How to Begin by Michael Bungay Stanier

    How to Begin overview



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    • 37 min
    How to Reduce Burnout, with Jennifer Moss

    How to Reduce Burnout, with Jennifer Moss

    Jennifer Moss: The Burnout Epidemic

    Jennifer Moss is an award-winning journalist, author, and international public speaker. She is a nationally syndicated radio columnist, reporting on topics related to happiness and workplace well-being. She is also a freelance writer whose articles have appeared in HuffPost, Forbes, the Society for Human Resource Management, Fortune, and Harvard Business Review.



    Jennifer’s prior book, Unlocking Happiness at Work, received the distinguished UK Business Book of the Year Award. She also sits on the Global Happiness Council. She is the author of The Burnout Epidemic: The Rise of Chronic Stress and How We Can Fix It*.



    In this conversation, Jennifer and I explore a few misconceptions about burnout — and also how curiosity and empathy can help to reduce it. We discuss a few key questions leaders can ask to gain insight on how to help. Plus, we detail how to avoid confirmation bias through generic interactions.

    Key Points



    Self-care doesn’t cure burnout.

    Curiosity increases empathy — and empathy from leaders is a fabulous antidote to burnout.

    There are two kinds of curiosity, epistemic and perceptual. True empathy comes from a focus on epistemic interactions.

    Go beyond the generic, “How are you?” and instead get more specific with a request like, “Name a high — and a low.” Doing these with a team can help surface how to help.

    Assume the best. It’s ok to say, “Thank you for sharing this with me. I don’t have any advice. I just want to listen and learn.”



    Resources Mentioned



    The Burnout Epidemic: The Rise of Chronic Stress and How We Can Fix It* by Jennifer Moss



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    • 36 min
    The Way to Get People Talking, with Andrew Warner

    The Way to Get People Talking, with Andrew Warner

    Andrew Warner: Stop Asking Questions

    Andrew Warner is an entrepreneur and host of the Startup Stories podcast, where he uncovers the secrets of the world’s best founders. Over the course of 2,000+ episodes, Andrew has interviewed everyone from Barbara Corcoran, to Gary Vaynerchuk, to the founders of Airbnb.



    After building two startups of his own—one successful and one that failed—Andrew started Mixergy as a way to learn from other entrepreneurs. Today, Mixergy is a place where successful people teach ambitious upstarts through interviews, courses, masterclasses, and events. He is the author of Stop Asking Questions: How to Lead High-Impact Interviews and Learn Anything from Anyone*.



    In this conversation, Andrew and I discuss what he’s learned about getting people to talk from thousands of hours of interviews and research. We explore some of the key tactics that he uses to help people open up in a genuine way. Plus, we discuss some common questions to avoid that may work against your goal to connect well with the other party.

    Key Points



    Help others get comfortable talking about themselves by revealing something about yourself first. They may not reciprocate immediately, but it often opens the door for future depth.

    Just a word or two can open up an entire new level of a conversation. Try using “Because?” or “How so?” as ways to hear more.

    People expect leaders to show up and have a direction for the conversation. Not everything needs to be phrased as a question — you may consider making requests like, “Tell me more,” to direct to conversation.

    Avoid asking questions that try to get people to articulate “most” or “best” answers. People spend too much mental bandwidth trying to rank-order instead of just engaging with the dialogue.

    When potentially uncomfortable situations come up, allow people an easy way out by giving them two paths they can go down.



    Resources Mentioned



    Stop Asking Questions: How to Lead High-Impact Interviews and Learn Anything from Anyone* by Andrew Warner



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    • 36 min
    The Leadership Struggles We See, with Muriel Wilkins

    The Leadership Struggles We See, with Muriel Wilkins

    Muriel Wilkins: Coaching Real Leaders

    Muriel Wilkins is Managing Partner and Co-founder of Paravis Partners. She is a C-suite advisor and executive coach with a strong track record of helping already high performing senior leaders take their effectiveness to the next level. She is also the host of the Harvard Business Review podcast, Coaching Real Leaders and is the co-author, with Amy Su of Own the Room: Discover Your Signature Voice to Master Your Leadership Presence*.



    Prior to entrepreneurship, she served on the senior team of U.S. News & World Report and also did marketing and strategy work at Accenture and The Prudential. Muriel has been recognized by the Washington Business Journal as one of Metro-DC area’s Top Minority Business Leaders.



    In this conversation, Muriel and I reflect on our recent client work in order to surface some of the current struggles leaders are facing. We discuss a few trends we’re seeing in relation to diversity, the great resignation, binary thinking, and human relations. Plus, we make a few practical invitations to leaders in order to avoid some common missteps.

    Key Points



    Leaders are making the shift from explanation to inquiry in relations to diversity, equity, and inclusion. The next step for many leaders is to consider how they use their power to affect change to the system in the organization.

    Many leaders are considering the, “Should I stay or should I go?” question without the full context of impact and feeling. Begin by considering the impact you wish to have before making a major change.

    Beware the trap of binary thinking. Often leaders get fixated on “OR thinking” without considering the opportunity for “AND thinking.” If you catch yourself thinking in “ors” consider how you might bring in some “ands.”

    Leaders who inherently see value in people development can tend to write off other leaders who they see as only focused on the numbers. It’s helpful to realize that the larger objective is often shared, but style is different. Meet people on their terms with their language.



    Resources Mentioned



    Own the Room: Discover Your Signature Voice to Master Your Leadership Presence* by Muriel Wilkins

    Coaching Real Leaders podcast



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    • 39 min
    Drawing the Line Between Friend and Manager, with Bonni Stachowiak

    Drawing the Line Between Friend and Manager, with Bonni Stachowiak

    Bonni Stachowiak: Teaching in Higher Ed

    Bonni is the host of the Teaching in Higher Ed podcast, Dean of Teaching and Learning and Professor of Business and Management at Vanguard University, and my life partner. Prior to her academic career, she was a human resources consultant and executive officer for a publicly traded company. Bonni is the author of The Productive Online and Offline Professor: A Practical Guide*.

    Listener Questions



    Lucus asked us for advice on his reading habits as he makes the transition to CEO.

    Elizabeth wondered the best way to address issues where experienced employees appear resentful about her giving them direction.

    Beth sent us a question about drawing the line between being a friend and a manager.



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    13 Crucial Books That Every Leader Should Know

    Drive* by Daniel Pink

    Readwise

    Day One

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    How to Manage Former Peers, with Tom Henschel (episode 257)

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    • 36 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
151 Ratings

151 Ratings

Phil D (AU) ,

Practical, insightful, real

Seeking grow, challenge and stretch my leadership. This podcast is essential! Thanks Dave

nicjhig ,

Always learning

Accessible, easy and the website which sits behind this podcast is a wonderful resource.
The library is awesome
A ‘must listen’ to podcast

ZZNoise ,

Practical, thoughtful and motivating

I lead a team in a tough challenging environment where I feel as though the only support I have comes from those who report to me. Dave’s show has seen me through many a tough week, I love listening to this first thing in the morning on a weekday to re-focus on helping those around me. I always learn something but am equally reassured I am on the right track. Dave interviews very well, is amazing and has equally amazing guests - including and especially Bonnie.

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