This episode is about Convict Fitness. What in the world? Joe went from being sentenced to 13 years in prison for directing a criminal enterprise to running a social enterprise called ConFit. Joe strives to create second chances by breaking down pre-conceived notions of criminal stereotypes through a human centred approach by offering prison-style training. In this interview, Joe reasons with me about the importance of taking hold of what you have and using gratitude, goals, and grounding to set yourself up for success. From the versatility of a tuna can, the traumas of prison, and the ability to see and create change Joe shares an inspiring story in the hope to create social change.