217 episodes

The Safety on Tap podcast is for leaders (yes, that's you!) wanting to grow themselves and drastically improve health and safety along the way. We bring you free-flowing ideas, perspectives and stories from interviews with only the most interesting people - to help you take positive, effective and rewarding action. Nice!

Safety on Tap Andrew Barrett | Growing leaders | Drastically improving health & safety

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    • 4.7 • 41 Ratings

The Safety on Tap podcast is for leaders (yes, that's you!) wanting to grow themselves and drastically improve health and safety along the way. We bring you free-flowing ideas, perspectives and stories from interviews with only the most interesting people - to help you take positive, effective and rewarding action. Nice!

    Ep218: An answer for everything with Andrew Barrett

    Ep218: An answer for everything with Andrew Barrett

    Full show notes: www.safetyontap.com/ep218
    You seem to have answers for everything, he said to me.  He was 100% right and 100% wrong at the same time.  This is a podcast about how that can be, and how you can engage with better answers.
    Hey, it’s Andrew, and this is Safety on Tap. 
    Since you're listening in, you must be a leader wanting to grow yourself and drastically improve health and safety along the way.  Welcome to you, you're in the right place.  If this is your first time listening in, thanks for joining us and well done for trying something different to improve! And of course welcome back to all of you wonderful regular listeners.
     
    Before you think that this episode will be a gratuitous brag about how good I think I am wrapped up in some parable of a story, stay with me for a few minutes. 
    When he said to me, 'you seem to have answers for everything', he WAS both right and wrong at the same time.                                                             
    He was right because to him, it did seem that I had answers for lots of the things we were talking about and working through in our coaching together.  He was wrong, because I wasn't really giving him answers in the way that questions are usually asked, or problems are usually solved with solutions.  What I was giving him was responses.  Responses to his question, to his story, to his context. 
    Responses aren't answers.  Responses are what we do when it's our turn, in a dialogue two or more people engage in a turn-taking exchange. Dialogue is an ancient word, very central to modern human experience, which comes from two Greek words put together: dia- translates to through, and logos translated to meaning, dialogos, or dialogue, the movement of flow of meaning through the people involved. 
    You can see turn taking all the time, which isn’t dialogue. It's more like tennis.  One person serves, another receives and returns the ball.  The object of tennis, and the object of a huge proportion of our interactions with other people, is to get to the end, to resolve the point, usually in favour of one person or the other.

    • 14 min
    Ep217: Some nuances to safety professional practice with Tim Lie

    Ep217: Some nuances to safety professional practice with Tim Lie

    Full show notes: www.safetyontap.com/ep217
    What does it sound like, to have permission to not focus on certain things in health and safety? What one concept are we missing from risk management that makes a massive difference?
    Hey, it’s Andrew, and this is Safety on Tap. 
    Since you're listening in, you must be a leader wanting to grow yourself and drastically improve health and safety along the way.  Welcome to you, you're in the right place.  If this is your first time listening in, thanks for joining us and well done for trying something different to improve! And of course welcome back to all of you wonderful regular listeners.
    My guest today is Tim Lie.  Is he a safety professional? I ask him that, so you'll have to wait and see what he says.  What I can tell you is that his roles have included group HSE responsibilities, lifecycle alignment, culture, and capability.  You don't often hear those things in people's job titles, do you?
    I met Tim a while back when I was invited along to a national health and safety team workshop.  It took all of 2 minutes for me to be really curious about Tim.  He is broadly read, he has both a practitioner and academic background, he is an engineer who loves solving problems but is hyper tuned into the messy people side of business, and he talks in a way that gives you a deep insight into how his brain works, which is fascinating. 
    So that's why I wanted to introduce him to you! We had a wide ranging chat, dove deep on a few things but still covered a fair bit of ground.  I hope you enjoy, here's my chat with Tim Lie:

    • 50 min
    Ep216 Resonance and understanding, with Andrew Barrett

    Ep216 Resonance and understanding, with Andrew Barrett

    Full show notes: www.safetyontap.com/ep216
    Radio, television, and the content we consume have changed enormously since I was a kid. This is a podcast about the physics, and the metaphor of this change and how we can change too, but only if we want to remain resonant. 
     Hey, it’s Andrew, and this is Safety on Tap. 
     Since you're listening in, you must be a leader wanting to grow yourself and drastically improve health and safety along the way.  Welcome to you, you're in the right place.  If this is your first time listening in, thanks for joining us and well done for trying something different to improve! And of course welcome back to all of you wonderful regular listeners.
    There used to be just a handful of TV stations, and a handful of radio stations. It was kind of easy as a kid, because the TV guide fit onto a single page in the newspaper, and the discussion about what to watch was easier because there were only a few options to choose from. Cartoons on Channel 7 on the afternoons we were allowed to watch TV, then Channel 2 at 6pm for the ABC news, on Wednesdays the highlight of the TV week was a bit of police drama with Blue Heelers on Channel 7 at 8.30, and Friday night football on Channel 9 kicked off the sporting entertainment of the weekend. 
    Bandwidth used to be a constraint.  On the radiomagnetic spectrum, there are only a limited number of frequencies which TV or radio could use to broadcast their content to you.  Even if you have a digital radio in your car or at home, you can still see the remnants of this bandwidth constraint, when a radio station includes a number in the name - Mix 106.5, 104.1 Today FM. 
    The number is the actual frequency (measured in Mega Hz for FM stations), the actual number of times the wave goes up and down per second.  That number meant it was easy for you to tune into the right station, to listen to what they had to offer, loud and clear.  If you were one point off, one tweak of the dial, and not only did you have the wrong frequency, you had garbled, snowy, or no radio content to listen to. 
     There is no doubt that the use of the radiomagnetic spectrum for communication, and its associated constraint of a limited number of frequencies, shaped our culture enormously. 
    Until the constraint disappeared.  With the internet we went from limited bandwidth to broadband - because we jumped off the radiomagnetic spectrum and entered a world of limitless channels to choose from, unlimited space for broadcast, and people who were more than happy to no longer be constrained to the 3 or 5 channels they used to have to choose from.

    • 19 min
    Ep215: The intersection of systems innovation, creative design & systems thinking, with Satyan Chari

    Ep215: The intersection of systems innovation, creative design & systems thinking, with Satyan Chari

    Full show notes: www.safetyontap.com/ep215

    Are the ideas of science at odds with a humanist approach? Can we solve all the big problems with big data and analytics? Can you really succeed with tools and practices and not understand the philosophy behind them?

    Hey, it’s Andrew, and this is Safety on Tap. 

    Since you're listening in, you must be a leader wanting to grow yourself and drastically improve health and safety along the way.  Welcome to you, you're in the right place.  If this is your first time listening in, thanks for joining us and well done for trying something different to improve! And of course welcome back to all of you wonderful regular listeners.

    The healthcare industry is one of the biggest growing in many economies around the world as population growth continues, more people are living longer, and advances in medical care and pharmaceuticals are preventing more and more illness and death than ever before. 

    Dr Satyan Chari has been hard at work in this sector for many years, and I've been trying to get him on the podcast for ages.  He is a great communicator, has done some cool collaborative improvement projects, and has always struck me as someone who knows his stuff but is anything but a know-it-all. 

    It's been a long time coming, and a little longer than usual, I hope you enjoy, here's Satyan:

    • 57 min
    Ep214: Making 2024 Your Best Year Yet

    Ep214: Making 2024 Your Best Year Yet

    Full show notes: www.safetyontap.com/ep214
    Two quick questions for you: first, did you get what you got in 2023 by design, or did your year kind of happen to you by accident? Second question, what's going to change for you in 2024? I have gifts for you inside, keep listening!
    Hey, it’s Andrew, and this is Safety on Tap. 
    Since you're listening in, you must be a leader wanting to grow yourself and drastically improve health and safety along the way.  Welcome to you, you're in the right place.  If this is your first time listening in, thanks for joining us and well done for trying something different to improve! And of course welcome back to all of you wonderful regular listeners.
    This episode will be released on the 18th of December, and many of you may have even stopped work for the year.  The past few weeks are a unique time in the yearly cycle, when the health and safety leaders I work with turn their minds to those two important questions I just asked:
     - Did you get what you got in 2023 by design, or did your year kind of happen to you by accident?
     - What's going to change for you in 2024?
     

    • 11 min
    Ep213: Human Factors, Error, Blame & Systems Thinking, with A/Prof Gemma Read

    Ep213: Human Factors, Error, Blame & Systems Thinking, with A/Prof Gemma Read

    We are now realising that just focussing on preventing bad stuff is a pretty limited view of health and safety, and that many of our approaches are limited in the application and the quality of their outputs. So how would we broaden out focus to study and improve normal work? It turns out there are theories, models, and people who've doing this for 80 years.  Allow me to introduce Human Factors, Ergonomics, and Systems Thinking. 
    Hey, it’s Andrew, and this is Safety on Tap. 
    Since you're listening in, you must be a leader wanting to grow yourself and drastically improve health and safety along the way.  Welcome to you, you're in the right place.  If this is your first time listening in, thanks for joining us and well done for trying something different to improve! And of course welcome back to all of you wonderful regular listeners.
    My guest today is Associate Professor Gemma Read, from the Centre for Human Factors and Sociotechnical Systems, at the University of the Sunshine Coast. 
    We talk about one of Gemma's journal papers to bring this dialogue to life.  The paper, called "State of science: evolving perspectives on  human error", is really quite readable (click here to download it) [hyperlink URL is https://research.usc.edu.au/esploro/outputs/journalArticle/State-of-science-evolving-perspectives-on/99571607402621]
    Here's Gemma:

    • 1 hr 2 min

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