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AUTM on the Air

AUTM on the AIR is the weekly podcast that brings you conversations about the impact of research commercialization and the people who make it happen. Join us for interviews with patent and licensing professionals, innovators, entrepreneurs, and tech transfer leaders on the issues and trends that matter most.

  1. 6 DAYS AGO

    Empowering Inventors: Insights from Carmine Denisco of the United Inventors Association

    What does it take to turn a great idea into a market ready product? This week on AUTM on the Air we have Carmine Denisco, president of the United Inventors Association (UIA) to talk about the journey of independent inventors. With over 100,000 members worldwide the UIA is a non-profit dedicated to providing resources, education and advocacy to inventors and ethical partnerships. In this episode, Carmine shares valuable advice for tech transfer professionals and inventors. From overcoming intellectual property challenges to manufacturing and commercialization he offers practical tips and real-world examples. He also talks about the importance of slowing down, doing your market research and getting the right support to avoid the common pitfalls. Whether you’re an independent inventor, an entrepreneur, or part of the innovation ecosystem, this episode is packed with strategies to help you succeed.  In This Episode: [01:36] The United Inventors Association has been around since the late 1980s. It's also a 501c3 non-profit.  [02:30] The UIA mission is to help empower, educate and give resources and connections to inventors.  [03:25] They have service providers and people who can help traverse the sequence of taking a product from idea to market. [04:08] Intellectual Property is so important and a great tool. [05:27] Inventors face many challenges including making sure the idea has legs and education, knowledge, and experience. Talking to the right people can be a challenge. [08:52] What tech transfer professionals should know about working with individual inventors as opposed to university researchers.  [10:20] Time and balancing everything are our big challenges. [11:07] There's a time and a sequence for getting a patent. UIA tries to slow things down and put the right IP in the right place. [14:25] The product needs to be made at the right place for that product at that time. [15:04] UIA tries to slow things down and find the right places to innovate.  [16:11] UIA works off of donations and volunteers. A lot of inventors give back. They don't charge for membership yet.  [18:22] The role that partnerships play at UIA and how they advocate for inventors.  [19:34] UIA is educating inventors and helping to make connections and offer resources to keep them on track.  [21:25] Advice for universities and institutions to help inventors and students. Take an outside inventor and create a program about that. Get everyone involved from business to marketing. [24:36] Top educational priorities include checking the market. Educate yourself on the process of taking something to market. Look at legal and know the processes.  [27:19] Carmine talks about outreach programs that have worked well.  [28:25] We learn what the UIA has planned for 2025 and beyond. Resources:  Carmine Denisco - United Inventors Association Carmine Denisco - LinkedIn Earmark Sourcing

    31 min
  2. 22 JAN

    From Lab to Launch- Key Strategies for Accelerating Drug Discovery in Tech Transfer With Elizabeth Douville

    The process of transforming cutting-edge academic research into life-changing therapies is often described as moving from bench to market. Joining us today is Elizabeth Douville, President and CEO of Iricor, a cancerology and immunology research valorization center based at the University of Montreal. Elizabeth is a leader who connects academic, industry and government ecosystems. She has a passion for scientific research and a track record of turning university innovations into biotech companies. She’s a force to be reckoned with in the life sciences. In this episode we’ll talk about how Iricor is tackling drug development, de-risking early stage innovation and commercializing promising therapies. We’ll also talk about bridging the infamous “Valley of Death” where so many projects go to die and how collaboration, entrepreneurial thinking and adaptability are the keys to success. Tune in for a behind the scenes look at innovation and the future of life-changing therapies. In This Episode: [01:54] Why the gap between academic innovation and commercialization often referred to as the "valley of death". The reality is that this is the place where projects go to die. [02:35] There can be problems with funding, technical validation, or market potential. [03:08] We learn the critical components for a successful drug discovery commercialization strategy that can be used by Tech Transfer offices. [05:13] You can't develop a drug and commercialize it on your own. Innovation takes a village. [06:07] We learn tactics and frameworks for de-risking projects. You need to go through the education process, do your homework, and sit down with the researcher. [07:22] Working collaboratively on the development path and having proof of concept can help get additional funding and move the innovation along. Each step should mitigate risk and make the technology more attractive. [08:43] Advice for TTOs and creating strong collaborations. Being a not-for-profit organization enables entities to apply for government aid and programs. [11:16] Approaching market assessment and validation to ensure commercial viability of a project. Access market intelligent databases for an early understanding of potential.  [12:23] Networking and knowing people in the industry and going to conferences is another part that will help with market assessment. [13:54] Prioritizing projects to maximize impact and balancing resource allocation. There are challenges but in the end they want to get new drug modalities to the patients. [15:58] Approaches to secure funding. Being a not-for-profit entity is the key to be eligible for programs. Be creative and leverage what's in your system from alumni to philanthropy. [18:11] Keys to collaboration include flexibility, agility, and understanding. [19:29] Elizabeth shares an example of an Iricor project that they helped to commercialize. The journey can be long and you have to be mindful of the IP.  [24:29] Best practices to follow without IP conflicts include making sure everybody's sitting at the table with the Pharma partner when everything comes together. [26:04] Empowering academic researchers to think like entrepreneurs. Universities have a big role to play when it comes to fostering an entrepreneurial mindset. [27:47] Advice for building a culture of innovation and collaboration within a TTO office includes leading by example and having an entrepreneurial and solution oriented mindset. Resources:  Iricor Elizabeth Douville - LinkedIn

    30 min
  3. 15 JAN

    2025 Predictions for the IP, Tech Transfer, and AI Landscapes With Eli Mazour

    At the beginning of this new year and a new administration, we wanted to examine what trends, challenges, and opportunities lie ahead for technology transfer professionals and IP practitioners. My guest is Eli Mazour, an intellectual property attorney with Foley & Lardner LLP and host of the Clause 8 podcast. Eli is known for his intricate understanding of the patent system and his unique ability to help clients build valuable, litigation-ready patent portfolios that drive business goals. He’s also a trusted voice on patent policy and legislative developments. Eli and I discuss predictions for how the new administration could shape patent and intellectual property policy, the potential direction of Congress on patent reform, and how cutting-edge technologies like AI are influencing IP strategy. If you work in Technology Transfer, you won’t want to miss Eli’s expert take on how these changes might impact your office’s priorities, partnerships, and patent portfolios. In This Episode: [02:00] It's going to be an interesting new year with a new administration. [03:02] Major factors and big players shaping IP in 2025. Howard Lutnick will be in charge of the Commerce Department which oversees the PTO. [05:05] Past policy proposals rolled out to theoretically reduce drug prices. There is a huge backlog for examining patent applications. [07:38] There's also going to be openings for improvements on the hill. [09:45] Innovators need some type of predictable logic with patents. [12:14] The revised guidance at the USPTO was a huge benefit. [13:02] How the balance between innovation incentives and market competition will evolve under the new administration. [14:48] It's interesting how they're looking for more innovators in the defense space. Companies don't want to lose all of their IP to the government.  [15:43] The importance of creating an ecosystem that supports innovation and allows innovators to keep their IP rights. [17:19] How the march-in rights issues changed the discussion about making investments. [18:16] Sectors that will probably have heightened patent activity or regulatory focus. [22:29] How will the next administration approach AI-related intellectual property issues? [27:57] Eli talks about AI tools for drafting and prosecution. Rooney [29:00] A lot of stuff to save an attorney's time could be done through automation. [31:16] It takes a lot of time to clean up AI-related work, but it could help make applications more robust. [32:29] Eli talks about the types of tools that he's excited about. [34:04] What policymakers should think about the impact of AI driven Innovations on IP Frameworks. [37:17] Eli's top recommendations he would share with Congress for strengthening Innovation and protecting inventors. [38:51] Possible bipartisan opportunities for reform. [40:15] Hopefully, we'll see an emphasis on allowing innovators to be more secure in the rights that they came up with. [41:17] A big innovation trend includes companies trying to figure out how to make AI work for them. Resources:  Eli Mazour - Foley & Lardner LLP Eli Mazour - LinkedIn Clause 8 Podcast

    43 min
  4. 8 JAN

    Fostering America's Inventive Spirit: The Invention Education Program at Sacramento State

    CSUS Sacramento or Sacramento State is part of the California State University system, the largest public university system in the US with over 450,000 students across 23 campuses in California. We all know that the journey of invention and innovation starts with education and Sacramento State is leading the way with their Invention Education Program. This class is based on the Lemelson-MIT program. It’s designed to have students tackle real-world challenges. This transdisciplinary program is all about inclusivity, diversity, and the power of invention to create meaningful change. Joining us today are four amazing guests who each play a key role in this inventive spirit. Dr. Christopher Rogers is a professor at Sacramento State and lead of the transdisciplinary Invention Education course. With years of experience in innovation through education, Dr. Rogers helped design a curriculum that develops technical and entrepreneurial skills as well as community engagement and social responsibility in his students. Rafael Gacel-Sinclair is a Technology Transfer Officer for the Office of Innovation & Technology Transfer (OITT) at Sacramento State. Rafael is key in aligning the Invention Education Program with the university’s overall innovation and commercialization goals. His work ensures the program is the bridge between academic learning and real-world application, so students can see their ideas come to life. Stephanie Couch, Executive Director of the Lemelson-MIT Program, also joins us. Stephanie is on a mission to democratize invention education. She has been instrumental in expanding access to programs that empower diverse learners to engage with the invention process. Her work ensures the benefits of innovation reach underrepresented groups in STEM and creates pathways for new voices and ideas in the field. Michael Cima, Faculty Director of the Lemelson-MIT Program, brings his expertise in innovation, education, and mentorship. A professor and inventor himself, Michael ensures programs like the Invention Education initiative are research-based and practical. He’s committed to cultivating inventive thinking so students can tackle the big challenges with confidence and creativity. In This Episode: [04:29] The Lemelson-MIT Program was started about 30 years ago with generous funding from the Lemelson Foundation. The original mission was to inspire young people to live creative and inventive lives. [05:18] Prizes were awarded to inventors. About 10 years ago, they began working on inventor education. They began awarding High School inventors and letting them take the project to MIT. They have a diverse group of people who have earned patents. [07:23] They also begin researching the pathway to becoming an inventor and developing more inventors. They are now focused on developing the next generation of leading innovators. [08:12] University collaborators are needed to nurture inventors. [09:23] Stephanie talks about the many programs for young inventors. [11:41] The Invention Education Program works with higher education faculty and staff to develop their understanding of the invention process and practices. Schools are motivated to offer things to students that will be meaningful in their futures. They are inventing classes that will offer college credit. [14:38] Christopher had worked at Lemelson. He became excited about seeing diverse students interested in STEM and learning about becoming an inventor.  [17:08] Students are imagining the world where they are actively designing the process.  [18:21] He realized that invention education was a way for people to save people and was interested in bringing this program to Sac State. [20:46] With his background in social sciences, Christopher knew that the community and team aspect of inventorship was something he was very interested in. [22:43] Christopher explains more about the invention education course and how it's going to be a two-semester original transdisciplinary course. [27:31] Students are loving the program so far. [31:44] Sacramento State Office of Innovation and Technology Transfer, OITT has a mission to manage, protect, and commercialize Sacramento State IP, and educate faculty, staff, and students about IP, while encouraging them to invent, create, and innovate. [37:05] The Rapid Brands story. From Sac State to Davis to Shark Tank and selling microwave cookers worldwide. This program will create more successful students just like the Rapid Brands creator Chris Johnson. [40:06] Tech Transfer offices need to do more to teach their students about IP, inventing, innovating, and starting businesses. [41:39] Invention education programs from Lemelson-MIT and Sacramento State will help close the gender and ethnic gaps in inventorship. [46:29] If you want to learn more you can always contact Stephanie at SCouch@mit.edu Resources:  Dr. Christopher Rogers - Sacramento State Rafael Gacel-Sinclair - LinkedIn Stephanie Couch - Lemelson-MIT SCouch@mit.edu Michael Cima - Lemelson-MIT Lemelson-MIT Partners In Invention Education Pathways to Invention

    51 min
  5. 19/12/2024

    Customer Discovery in Tech Transfer: Ensuring Innovations Meet Industry Demands with Kate Havey

    Getting groundbreaking technology from the lab to the market is no easy task, and it’s a challenge that every Tech Transfer professional understands well. While university Tech Transfer offices are often measured by the number of licenses executed, success isn't just about numbers; it's about ensuring the technologies developed truly meet market needs. Kate Havey, the Assistant Director of Licensing at Venture Partners at CU Boulder, Is here to help us explore this topic. She brings a wealth of experience in research, teaching, and intellectual property management. She’s worked on everything from biomedical innovations to electric vehicle batteries. In our conversation, we dive into how early engagement with industry can help steer research in the right direction. Kate shares her insights on customer discovery, and starting these conversations before or at the proposal stage can make all the difference in ensuring that the technologies we create solve real-world problems. We also explore the reality that while some innovations may seem groundbreaking, industry often needs practical, financially viable solutions. Kate discusses CU Boulder’s approach to fostering relationships with researchers through programs that refine technologies, debunking misconceptions about what industry really needs, and highlighting the importance of building strong ecosystems to support market-ready technologies. This conversation underscores the need to align both people and processes to make tech transfer truly effective. In This Episode: [01:58] We kick off with the biggest challenge aligning university innovation with market needs. It revolves about embracing the concept of customer discovery early in the process. [02:28] Having customer discovery questions early in the process is key. [03:39] Early means having conversations before or at the proposal stage. [04:02] The importance of looking at what you're trying to achieve when increasing invention disclosures. Encouraging disclosure increases inventor engagement. [05:05] Technology has to be ready for the market if it's going to be adopted. [06:11] Kate shares an example of something that was too early for market. Their entry level program is called Starting Blocks, and it dives into customer discovery. Going out and finding the pain points. This process ensures an innovation that companies actually need. [07:21] A technology developed by Dr. Rich Noble that developed ionic liquids for gas separation. They were able to switch focus. Early customer discovery helps develop a better product. [11:28] The importance of patience and perseverance. [12:27] The program helps ask the right discovery questions and teaches a framework for presenting ideas. [13:31] There's a pipeline of programs which leads to deeper dives into customer discovery. [15:26] Kate started the Translational Research Summit Series at CU which brings together PIs, companies, entrepreneurs, investors, and policy makers. [16:47] Common misconceptions about what industry wants include the idea of just building it and there will be a market. [17:40] Industry's view involves the idea of making money. [18:24] Tech Transfer people need to find a way to have conversations about aspiration versus pragmatism. [19:36] Kate shares advice for prioritizing market goals. [21:46] The role the local innovation ecosystem plays in cultivating market ready technologies. [24:21] Kate shares how CU Boulder fosters an environment that bridges the gap between research and commercialization. [27:08] Kate pulls out her crystal ball and looks ahead and tells us what she's most excited about in the future. Large and small industries are becoming more excited about taking a role in university research. [29:22] Being available for each step of the process is an emerging Tech Transfer role. [30:05] The importance of aligning technologies for industry needs and aligning people and relationships with the broad process of Tech Transfer. Resources:  Kate Havey - CU Boulder Kate Havey - LinkedIn

    33 min
  6. 11/12/2024

    Adapting to Change: Insights on Europe’s Unitary Patent System with Robert Alderson and Mariella Massaro

    In 2024, the European patent system is undergoing one of its most significant transformations in decades. The introduction of the Unitary Patent and the Unified Patent Court is reshaping how intellectual property is protected and enforced across Europe. For innovators and businesses alike, this marks a pivotal moment—one that promises streamlined processes but also introduces new complexities. Today, we’re exploring what these changes mean and how they might impact the future of innovation.   Joining me for this fascinating discussion are two renowned experts in intellectual property law, Robert Alderson and Mariella Massaro, partners at Berggren, a leading European IP firm. Both Robert and Mariella bring unique perspectives and deep expertise to our conversation. Robert is a rare hybrid in the IP world, qualified to practice before the United States Patent and Trademark Office, the European Patent Office, and now the Unified Patent Court. With more than 20 years of experience spanning two continents, he offers a nuanced understanding of both U.S. and European patent practices.   Mariella’s career has been equally impressive. A Certified Licensing Professional and recognized IP strategist, she has nearly two decades of experience navigating the complexities of IP litigation and commercial transactions. Her work with clients preparing for the Unitary Patent system highlights the practical challenges—and opportunities—that lie ahead. From pharmaceuticals to fashion, her portfolio reflects the wide-reaching implications of this new patent framework.   Together, Robert and Mariella will break down what you need to know about the Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court, offering insights on how to prepare, adapt, and thrive in this evolving landscape. Whether you’re an inventor, an entrepreneur, or simply curious about the future of innovation, you won’t want to miss this episode. In This Episode: [04:22] Mariella shares an example of what UPC is now. She talks about Seoul Viosys Co., Ltd. and Seoul Semiconductor Co., Ltd., v. Expert Klein GmbH, expert e-Commerce GmbH, Düsseldorf (DE) LD. [05:06] The UPC court is very fast.  [08:56] Mariella talks about another case, 10X Genomics and Harvard v. Nanostring, that sets the criteria for claims interpretation for validity and infringement. [10:00] Robert talks about Sanofi v. Amgen. This was the first successful revocation action at the UPC. If you're going to file a patent in the US and Europe, you have to satisfy the different requirements. [12:38] The application of the doctrine of equivalents at the UPC. [13:45] What happens when there is a UPC action that is conducted in parallel with the EPO opposition? Astellas versus Herios.  [15:41] Focusing on unitary patents and filing and prosecution strategy. There has been an uptick in unitary patents. [16:29] Robert talks about the transitional period in unitary patents. [19:41] AIM Sport versus Suponor. Some of these issues are only for the transitional period. [22:02] If the national patent application strategy is going to be used, it's important to understand which countries you can use the PCT route and which countries you can't. [22:34] How TTOs can use this transitional period to balance the risk. Use a unitary patent with the broadest possible claims, and then file a divisional application and classically validate that patent. [24:22] We learn about literal double patenting. This is only available under specific circumstances. [26:50] This strategy is being utilized in the US currently. [27:14] What TTOs need to know when licensing their patent portfolios in Europe. Make sure all of your rights in the ownership agreement are addressed specifically. [37:33] How representation of joint owners before the EPO and UPC work. [38:13] The first applicant listed is considered the common representative. [40:33] Robert and Mariella share what they think TTOs should look out for in 2025. Resources:  Robert Alderson - Berggren Robert Alderson - LinkedIn Mariella Massaro - Berggren Mariella Massaro - LinkedIn Autm Annual Meeting In March

    44 min
  7. 04/12/2024

    Redefining Leadership: How CIOs Are Leading Universities into the Future with Kimberly Gramm and Glen Gardner

    The role of Chief Innovation Officer is transforming the way universities approach innovation and entrepreneurship. Once confined to the corporate world, this position is now becoming a cornerstone of academic leadership, enabling institutions to centralize their efforts around economic growth, interdisciplinary collaboration, and societal impact. Universities like MIT, Penn State, and Tulane are embracing this change, appointing CIOs to streamline activities across departments and amplify their influence on both campus and community. Today, I’m joined by Kimberly Gramm, Chief Innovation and Entrepreneurship Officer at Tulane University, and Glenn Gardner, President of Gardner Innovation Search Partners. Kimberly is a powerhouse in early-stage technology development, having overseen the creation of over 300 startups that collectively raised $470 million in investment capital. At Tulane, she is building an entrepreneurial pipeline and leading initiatives like the NSF-funded Fuel project, a $160 million effort focused on energy transformation.  Glenn, with over 24 years of experience in recruiting innovation leaders, provides valuable insights into how this role is evolving and what it takes to succeed in bridging academia and industry. In this episode, we unpack the strategies behind fostering innovation ecosystems, breaking down silos in academic settings, and creating seamless partnerships between universities and industry. They explore how CIOs are reshaping university culture, driving technology commercialization, and addressing some of today’s most pressing societal challenges. We dive deep into the growing importance of the Chief Innovation Officer, offering a fresh perspective on how universities can maximize their potential and lead the way in global innovation. In This Episode: [00:52] The role of CIO or Chief Innovation Officer is gaining traction in universities.  [03:47] Kimberly breaks down what started the shift in academia. [07:06] Glen shares what he's seen including breaking down silos.  [08:18] In academia the focus is on research and education and societal impact. Goals include fostering interdisciplinary collaboration. Success is also measured through longer term outcomes. [09:47] The mission of academia and academia innovation is impact. It's also about finding and retaining the best faculty. [11:29] The vice provost for research can focus on research while the CIO can focus on innovation. [12:17] Having a CIO helps streamline decision making and coordination. [14:21] Kimberly talks about focusing on societal needs. [15:25] According to Glenn, de-risking is moving more towards the universities, and the tech transfer and corporate engagement offices are working more closely together. [19:05] Seamless integrated innovation breeds success. [20:12] It's important to find out who has the relationship with industry and find the problems that need solving. [21:02] NIH and NSF funding is going down, so it's more important than ever to have industry collaborations.  [21:47] Kimberly shares an example of this in action where they have a cooperative agreement with the technology development arm of the energy engine in Louisiana. They were given $160 million and the state matched another 68 million. [24:54] Kimberly outlines support and alignment for the CIO role in universities. She has worked at three different universities. Strong leadership support and executive backing is first and foremost. Defining metrics is also critical. [28:39] Glenn emphasizes the importance of executive buy-in. [31:05] The board at Tulane wanted to participate in innovation and entrepreneurship. This led to a framework of success and putting the right puzzle pieces in place. [37:11] Specific strategies for implementing a CIO at a university. Number one is building trust in relationships. [41:45] Glenn talks about how a hospital system views Innovation compared to a university. [42:51] Glenn talks about how this role is necessary to keep up. The bar is raised. Even organizations that don't have this role, have people acting in the role. [44:07] Glenn shares the qualities that make an ideal CIO. It's a diverse skill set. We need more people from the business side. [46:05] It's about change management expertise and cultural transformation in complex organizations. Resources:  Kimberly Gramm, MBA, PhD - Tulane University Innovation Institute Kimberly Gramm, MBA, PhD - LinkedIn Glen Gardner - Gardner Innovation Search Partners Glen Gardner - LinkedIn The Rise of the University Chief Innovation Officer

    51 min
  8. 20/11/2024

    Suspenders4Hope: How Tech Transfer Is Helping Transform Lives

    Did you know that the restaurant and construction industries have among the highest suicide rates in the country? That's where Wichita State University's Suspenders4Hope initiative comes in, combining ingenuity and compassion to address mental health issues head-on. This breakthrough endeavor began as a campus-based campaign for suicide prevention and mental wellness training and has since spread to companies across the country. We’re joined by three incredible guests who helped make it happen. Rob Gerlach, Wichita State’s Associate Vice President of Tech Commercialization, shares how tech transfer played a key role in scaling this initiative. Zeeshan Khan, Program Manager for Tech Transfer, discusses the challenges of working in a human-centered, non-traditional tech transfer space.  Dr. Jessica Provines, the program’s creator and Chief Psychologist at WSU, opens up about her personal journey and the program’s mission to foster hope and reduce deaths of despair. In this episode, we explore the innovative strategies behind Suspenders4Hope, including non-exclusive licensing and industry collaborations. We also examine how this program is making a significant difference, from providing individuals with mental health tools to altering businesses and communities. Stay tuned for an exciting discussion about how technology transfer can be a force for good. In This Episode: [02:26] This is an important conversation and a fascinating story. [02:41] Jessica shares how Suspenders4Hope came about. She went through her own experience with depression. Her own experience through suicide loss made this cause near and dear to her heart. [03:15] They got a Federal Suicide Prevention Grant to work on this issue. [04:12] After creating a successful program on the campus, they decided to help more people. She was grateful that she was able to be guided by a Tech Transfer office. [05:05] WSU is a leader in innovation and Technology Transfer. [06:10] Rob talks about what it was like when this product first came to their Tech Transfer office. It didn't fit the typical mold. Jessica and her team were committed to moving the initiative forward. [07:35] The purpose of moving the product out to the world was still in the same vein as a transfer project. [08:12] Zeeshan talks about what made Suspenders4Hope stand out.  [08:58] There was a need for the team to understand and promote the product as ambassadors. [10:02] Benefits of using non-exclusive licensing for mental health training. [11:28] The Tech Transfer office and their expertise to help figure out how to scale. [14:58] Zeeshan talks about the construction and hospitality industry adopting the program. Partnerships in the sectors are crucial. People resonate with the program as a lifeline. [17:32] Jessica talks about the core elements of the training and what makes it so impactful. They are focused on creating a movement. [22:05] Branding and meeting the program where it's at. [24:43] They've had very positive responses from the industries adopting the program. [28:38] Jessica's dream is for the long-term impact of the program to help transform lives. [31:16] The number one lesson is to always remember to think outside of the box. [34:24] Think about how you're fulfilling needs when trying to get involved with social impact initiatives. [37:39] According to Jessica, it comes down to relationships and being able to show love and compassion for people. [39:24] There are broader uses of Technology Transfer than just finding patents. It's about transferring technology into the hands of people who can make the biggest impact. [42:28] Advice for pursuing socially impactful projects. Resources:  Suspenders4Hope Rob Gerlack Wichita State University Rob Gerlach LinkedIn Zeeshan Khan Wichita State University Zeeshan Khan LinkedIn Dr. Jessica Provines Wichita State University  Dr. Jessica Provines LinkedIn

    46 min

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AUTM on the AIR is the weekly podcast that brings you conversations about the impact of research commercialization and the people who make it happen. Join us for interviews with patent and licensing professionals, innovators, entrepreneurs, and tech transfer leaders on the issues and trends that matter most.

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