Sacred Conversation On Work Episode 25 This conversation is jam-packed with great insights and advice from one of the top business thinkers in the world. In Episode 25, Carol talks with Daniel Pink, author of several provocative, bestselling books about business, work, and behavior, including When: The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing, A Whole New Mind, Drive, and To Sell is Human. For the last six years, London-based Thinkers 50 named Daniel Pink, alongside Michael Porter and Clayton Christensen, as one of the top 15 business thinkers in the world. In this interview, Dan reflects on his early analysis of where work was headed nearly 20 years ago (with his first book on the rise of freelancers). He points out the unseen forces that have shaped the work environment that we have today—one where social media fuels unhealthy comparison, where top performers have more options outside of traditional forms of work, and where retirement doesn’t come at 65 years of age. This leads to a discussion of how workplaces need to adapt. You’ll also hear about the importance of acknowledging emotions in the workplace, how the younger generation is finding community in new places, one of the biggest mistakes Millennials make in pursuing their first job, Dan’s best and worst work experiences, and what makes work sacred. We end the conversation with Dan’s top tip for having a meaningful and successful career. Dan Pink’s books have won multiple awards, have been translated into 39 languages, and have sold three million copies worldwide. He has been a contributing editor at Fast Company and Wired. His articles and essays have also appeared in The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, The New Republic, and Slate. In 2007, he was a Japan Society Media fellow in Tokyo, where he studied the country’s massive comic industry. Before venturing out on his own 20 years ago, Dan worked in several positions in politics and government, including serving from 1995 to 1997 as chief speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. He received a BA from Northwestern University and a JD from Yale Law School. Pink and his wife live in Washington, DC. They have three children — two college students and a high school student. For more information on Dan Pink please visit his website: www.danpink.com ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Daniel Pink PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier