Fintech Takes

Alex Johnson
Fintech Takes

Fintech moves fast. But here at Fintech Takes, Alex Johnson and his rotating panel of guests move faster so that you can stay on top of the latest and greatest news in the industry without breaking a sweat.  Welcome to Fintech Takes—the place where fintech’s biggest nerds come to sit back, relax, and completely geek out. Join Alex and a lineup of fintech’s brightest minds as they dissect what’s happening in fintech and banking.  Each week, Alex and his guests recap the most interesting developments in fintech and explore the industry’s most pressing questions, diving headfirst into the intricate workings of some of the industry’s most ground-breaking business models and unpacking the emerging players that promise to shape fintech’s future. From riveting conversations with fintech’s most relevant operators to comprehensive recaps of the month's most compelling news stories and in-depth analyses of the latest regulatory developments, Fintech Takes is your one-stop-shop for navigating the fintech universe. Subscribe now to join fintech’s nerdiest podcast around!

  1. 6 DAYS AGO

    S9 E6: Money20/20, 2024: BaaS and Open Banking and AI (Oh My!)

    Welcome to another special Fintech Takes episode.  I’m Alex Johnson, just back from four intense days at Money20/20 in Las Vegas, and here to unpack it all with me is my friend Jason Henrichs, CEO of Alloy Labs and co-host of the Breaking Banks podcast.  In this crossover, we’re breaking down the major topics of Money20/20, 2024 edition. This year, it was all about major topics: bank-fintech partnerships, banking as a service, open banking (1033, anyone?), and, of course, AI. First up, open banking stole the show. Just last week, the CFPB finalized the 1033 rule, igniting some serious debates. I even interviewed Director of the CFPB, Rohit Chopra, on stage, where he tackled the ongoing lawsuit from big banks trying to block the Personal Financial Data Rights Rule (AKA open banking 👋). Meanwhile, the conversations around bank-fintech partnerships, third-party risk management, and BaaS were less dramatic and more…solutions-oriented, circling around setting standards and ensuring that smaller fintech companies have access to bank partnerships. As for AI? Even OpenAI admitted that AI might be overhyped heading into 2025, and the industry is ready for real talk on its utility.  Innovation may headline Money20/20, but this year’s main act? Regulators. Gone are the days when crypto and disruption headlined; in 2024, it’s all about regulatory stakes grounding the industry in today’s…reality—fancy that. Raising the standard of quality for embedded finance infrastructure, Newline™ by Fifth Third is an API platform that enables enterprises to launch and scale payment, card and deposit products directly with Fifth Third Bank.   Learn more at newline53.com Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson Follow Jason: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonhenrichs/ Breaking Banks podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/breaking-banks/id641357669

    29 min
  2. 30 OCT

    S9 E5: The CFPB, Cash + Culture Party Podcast (Live from MX's Money Experience Summit)

    Welcome to a special edition of Fintech Takes, recorded live from MX's Money Experience Summit in beautiful Park City, Utah.  Big shout-out to MX for letting me squeeze in some live podcasting–my favorite thing to do! First up, I chat with Ashwin Vasan, senior advisor at FS Vector, and Kelvin Chen, head of policy at the Consumer Bankers Association—two ex-CFPB experts who help untangle the knots of financial services regulation. We dive into policy talk (recorded before the CFPB's open banking rule dropped), and the messy middle ground of banking and fintech. Plus, we explore how banks are scrambling to stay relevant as embedded finance and BaaS dominate, and why seamless customer experience is the new battleground. Next, I sit down with Jesse Mecham, founder of YNAB, to unpack his philosophy of mindful money management. We chat about how YNAB encourages users to think intentionally about managing their money, challenging the usual fintech rush for speed and convenience that leaves users out of the loop on their own financial decisions. And last but not least, MX founder and freshly returned CEO, Ryan Caldwell, joins to chat about MX’s real secret sauce: its culture. And his passion for culture is contagious. Ryan highlights how leadership, values, and intentional culture is the driver for team dynamics *and* customer outcomes: culture drives results, leadership makes the difference, and in fintech, both are non-negotiable. 00:01:34: Ashwin Vasan, FS Vector + Kelvin Chen, Consumer Bankers Association 00:28:01 Jesse Mecham, YNAB 00:53:45 Ryan Caldwell, MX  Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson Companies featured: https://fsvector.com/ https://consumerbankers.com/ https://www.ynab.com/ https://www.mx.com/

    1h 19m
  3. 23 OCT

    S9 E4: Trust is a Two-way Street

    In this special guest episode, Alex catches up with founder and CEO of Bloom Money, Nina Mohanty, about a pressing yet overlooked issue: first-party fraud.  They kick off by exploring the viral "infinite money glitch" trend on TikTok—yep, it’s first-party fraud, whether people know it, admit it, or not…and it’s on the rise. During the pandemic, neobanks like Chime, PayPal, and Cash App saw explosive growth, but that came with an explosive surge in fraud and disputes, too. In their quest for top-line numbers, many overlooked rising first-party fraud, exploiting gaps like the ACH settlement window. While traditional banks clamped down on this behavior, fintechs allowed it to thrive. This shift in consumer behavior poses major concerns. How do we balance protecting consumers while holding them accountable? What impact does this have on product development, customer communication, and overall trust in fintech?  What does it mean for the wider ecosystem when people are being encouraged to engage in first party fraud?  Tune in for a candid discussion on fraud and its broader implications for financial services. Raising the standard of quality for embedded finance infrastructure, Newline™ by Fifth Third is an API platform that enables enterprises to launch and scale payment, card and deposit products directly with Fifth Third Bank.   Learn more at newline53.com 00:07:29 – Chase ATMs meet the infinite money “glitch” trend  00:20:01 – The explosion of disputed credit card transactions  00:35:31 – Authorized Push Payment (APP) fraud in the UK   00:45:23 – Who bears responsibility: financial services or consumers? Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page. Follow Nina: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ninamohanty/ Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson

    1h 9m
  4. 16 OCT

    S9 E3: Not Fintech Investment Advice: Kato, FlowX, Mesa, and Cavela—AI is Devouring Fintech

    Welcome back to Not Fintech Investment Advice, where Simon Taylor and I spotlight new and exciting fintechs.  This time, we're diving into how AI is shaking up customer service, banking, homeownership, and procurement—and where to draw the line. Because knowing when NOT to use AI in financial services? That’s *the* real art. First up: KatoHQ. Their AI-powered voice agents decode customer intent and cut through the IVR hell. No more “Press 1 for misery”—just state your issue, and you're directed to the fix, no shouting required. It’s an idea that could even revolutionize collections by reaching pre-delinquent customers before they spiral. Next up: FlowX.AI, automating digital transformation for banks. Their AI agents streamline workflows and build the infrastructure banks need to compete with fintech disruptors like Nubank. After pouring billions into modernization and cloud migration, FlowX.AI might be the boost banks need to fix unit economics and crank up feature velocity. Then there’s Mesa, targeting homeowners with a credit card that rewards essential payments like mortgages and utilities. It’s like Bilt for homeowners—but can Mesa pull off Bilt’s pandemic-era success without the same tailwinds? Homeownership is our biggest asset, yet there’s no “operating system” to manage it all. And finally, Cavela: slashing procurement costs with AI-driven sourcing and price negotiation, saving businesses 40% on wholesale goods. An AI agent that finds and seals the deal—no human needed? Yes, please! Plus, how do we ensure AI-driven consumer agents serve user interests while enhancing fairness and explainability? Could Australia’s "action initiation" model redefine trust in financial services? Raising the standard of quality for embedded finance infrastructure, Newline™ by Fifth Third is an API platform that enables enterprises to launch and scale payment, card and deposit products directly with Fifth Third Bank.   Learn more at newline53.com 00:02:28 - KatoHQ 00:14:02 - FlowX AI 00:24:33 - Mesa 00:37:58 - Cavela 00:46:21 - Manifesting Fintech Ideas  Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page. Follow Simon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sytaylor/ Substack: https://sytaylor.substack.com   Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson Companies featured: https://katohq.com/ https://www.flowx.ai/ https://www.mesamember.com/ https://www.cavela.com/

    56 min
  5. 10 OCT

    What Customers Want: The AI Concierge Revolution & What’s Next for Fintech CX

    Welcome back to the grand finale of What Customers Want, a limited 4-part series from the Fintech Takes podcast, hosted by me and Corey Besaw, President of APAC and co-founder of Ubiquity. In Episode 4, Corey and I are joined by Aditi Shekar and Mike Forsyth at Zeta, a company that’s building a "multiplayer" financial experience for families, offering adaptable joint banking. Their mission, in other words? Exceptional customer service. We’ve added complexity with each episode, but this time we're diving into the juiciest layer of all: how AI, especially generative AI, is reshaping customer experience and where it’s headed next. Highlights include: Exploring Zeta’s concierge model—a compelling blend of generative AI and human support that dials down customer anxiety. Gone are the frustrating “We’re closed until Monday” moments! Here, AI serves not only as a stand-in, but as your savvy financial coach, ready to unravel transaction data and fine-tune your spending strategy. By leveraging generative AI like ChatGPT, fintechs such as Zeta can handle 30-40% of basic inquiries, freeing human agents to tackle more complex issues. But this balancing act brings challenges; compliance and security are crucial in financial services. How do we find the right mix between constant availability and necessary filtering? The pivotal role data infrastructure plays in this equation. While LLMs excel in the “last mile” of communication, they rely on robust systems for accuracy. Given the exorbitant computational costs of snapshotting an insane number data points per customer, how can organizations ensure effective AI deployment? Imagining a future with micro-models that tailor interactions to individual behaviors. Can AI juggle basic requests while knowing when to tap a human agent? Will generative AI step up as your personal financial coach, or will we hit a plateau like the one Tesla faced with its self-driving promises—remember 2015, when they said fully autonomous cars would hit in...two years? In short, early AI models were a chaotic free-for-all, drawing from the wild west of the internet. Now, we're refining that data for smarter models, but AGI remains an open question. What's clear is that with innovations like GPT driving the bus, fintech is poised for explosive growth. In customer support, cutting-edge tech could be the silver bullet that transforms how customers get what they want in financial services. Enjoyed this series? Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson Follow Corey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-besaw-8004182/ Follow Aditi: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aditishekar/ Follow Mike: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mf11/ Learn more about Ubiquity here: https://www.ubiquity.com/

    1 hr
  6. 9 OCT

    S9 E2: Bank Nerd Corner: Compliance, Complexity, and the Gray Areas of Fintech

    Welcome back to Bank Nerd Corner, featuring yours truly and #1 among all bank nerds, Kiah Haslett, Banking and Fintech Editor at Bank Director. First up, we’re breaking down the FDIC’s latest proposed rule, which tightens the screws on custodial accounts. Spoiler alert: Kiah's got some strong opinions on whether smaller banks should be held to different standards in the Banking-as-a-Service (BaaS) space—and trust me, she’s not buying it. In BaaS, complexity is part of the deal—size doesn’t matter. Just look at SVB’s crash when it tried to level up its asset thresholds.  Next, we're diving into the flood of fintech “ecosystem standards” cropping up everywhere. Are these self-policed initiatives legit or just smoke and mirrors?  And don’t miss Kiah’s spicy rant about Mercury joining the Coalition for Financial Ecosystem Standards (CFES) and claiming they "take compliance seriously." Instead of owning up to their growth obsession, they should be saying, "We messed up, but now we get it—compliance matters!" It's time for fintechs to be accountable for their remediation efforts. Compliance isn’t just lip service—step up and pay up. We’ll round it off with two burning questions: What exactly qualifies as a “bank service company,” and do fintech innovations like Buy Now, Pay Later (BNPL) and Earned Wage Access (EWA) count as loans?  The answers might surprise you, but one thing’s for sure—getting your paycheck faster shouldn’t come with a price tag. Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page. Raising the standard of quality for embedded finance infrastructure, Newline™ by Fifth Third is an API platform that enables enterprises to launch and scale payment, card and deposit products directly with Fifth Third Bank.   Learn more at newline53.com   Follow Kiah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/khaslett/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/khaslett   Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson

    1h 19m
  7. 3 OCT

    What Customers Want: Navigating the Tension Between Innovation and Regulation

    Welcome back What Customers Want, a limited 4-part series from the Fintech Takes podcast, hosted by me and Corey Besaw, President of APAC and co-founder of Ubiquity. In Episode 3, Corey and I are joined by Ahon Sarkar, SVP & GM at Helix, to dive into the natural tension points between fintechs, banks, and those ever-evolving customer expectations.  Financial services are leaning hard on self-service automation, but fintech moves at lightning speed—constantly innovating to craft the perfect solution. So, what happens when customer expectations and fintech's rapid pace don’t quite sync up? Highlights include: When fintechs, banks, and platforms first come together, discussions around customer service can be a mixed bag. Banks want to know if the fintech understands support systems or if they’re building from scratch. How do you scale a lean team while delivering an exceptional experience? Choosing a sponsor bank is like setting the stage for long term success. Alignment is key. Do they have experience managing the complexities of third-party models like BaaS? Can they handle the risks that come with fintech partnerships? As fintechs scale, banks must strike a balance between fostering innovation and keeping control. It's a bit like managing a kid on a trampoline—gradually handing over trust while ensuring the right safeguards are in place (or so we’d hope!). As Banking-as-a-Service (BaaS) matures, customer service is becoming a competitive edge—but only if fintechs and banks can align on expectations and regulatory standards. What happens when customer support or fraud spirals out of control? In the tug-of-war between innovation and regulation, tune in to hear how these growing pains may create a brighter future for customer experience in financial services. And don’t forget to subscribe and catch more insights on what customers want in upcoming episodes. Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson Follow Corey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-besaw-8004182/ Follow Ahon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahonsarkar/ Learn more about Ubiquity here: https://www.ubiquity.com/

    1h 3m
  8. 2 OCT

    S9 E1: Fintech Recap: The New FDIC Rule, Visa's Antitrust Fight, and Open Banking's Next Steps

    Alex teams up with Jason Mikula, now Head of Industry Strategy for Banking & Fintech at Taktile (ooh la la!) to unpack the latest in fintech. The FDIC has proposed a new rule on custodial deposits—the "Synapse Rule." It requires banks to meticulously track custodial account owners and transactions, aiming for crisis prevention, but does it truly plug the gaps exposed by past failures? Will regulators enforce compliance if the rule passes, especially given Evolve's shaky history? As the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) nears finalizing a personal financial data rights rule, the industry braces for a shift from screen scraping to APIs. But can we trust the big banks to play fair? Plus, don’t miss the latest installment in the Visa antitrust suit, and don’t be fooled: this isn’t just a Visa problem. It turns out notions of good vs. evil in the payments space aren't all that black and white. And to top it off? A rant about the CFPB's consent order against TD Bank, a perfect example of “how not to” furnish credit. Plus, a friendly headline tip for Forbes from Alex! What could it be?  Tune in to find out. Raising the standard of quality for embedded finance infrastructure, Newline™ by Fifth Third is an API platform that enables enterprises to launch and scale payment, card and deposit products directly with Fifth Third Bank.   Learn more at newline53.com 00:03:14 - FDIC’s New “Synapse” Rule 00:09:04 - Compliance Conundrums  00:22:13 - Open Banking in the End Zone 00:39:32 - The Visa Antitrust Suit: A “3?-Minute Overview” 00:45:59 - Can’t Let It Go Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/  And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page.   Follow Jason: Newsletter: https://fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmikula/   Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson

    53 min

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Fintech moves fast. But here at Fintech Takes, Alex Johnson and his rotating panel of guests move faster so that you can stay on top of the latest and greatest news in the industry without breaking a sweat.  Welcome to Fintech Takes—the place where fintech’s biggest nerds come to sit back, relax, and completely geek out. Join Alex and a lineup of fintech’s brightest minds as they dissect what’s happening in fintech and banking.  Each week, Alex and his guests recap the most interesting developments in fintech and explore the industry’s most pressing questions, diving headfirst into the intricate workings of some of the industry’s most ground-breaking business models and unpacking the emerging players that promise to shape fintech’s future. From riveting conversations with fintech’s most relevant operators to comprehensive recaps of the month's most compelling news stories and in-depth analyses of the latest regulatory developments, Fintech Takes is your one-stop-shop for navigating the fintech universe. Subscribe now to join fintech’s nerdiest podcast around!

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