“Codebreaking and Codemaking Down Under” – with John Blaxland and Clare Birgin

Podcast SpyCast

Summary

John Blaxland (X, LinkedIn) and Clare Birgin (Wikipedia, LinkedIn) join Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss Australian codebreaking. John and Clare are coauthors of the new book Revealing Secrets

What You’ll Learn

Intelligence

  • The importance of SIGINT
  • Codebreaking in Australian intelligence
  • Australia’s role in WWII and the Cold War
  • The advent and evolution of cyber 

Reflections

  • Strategic defense and offense 
  • The power, and danger, of communication

And much, much more …

Quotes of the Week

"What I've noticed with the Australians, and I think it's similar in the other the other Five Eyes countries, these people tend to be quite patriotic to do [Signals Intelligence]. They want to, they love their country, and it also seems to preserve very good qualities.” -Clare Birgin.

Resources 

SURFACE SKIM

*Spotlight Resource* 

  • Revealing Secrets: An unofficial history of Australian Signals intelligence and the advent of cyber, Clare Birgin and John Blaxland (University of New South Wales Press, 2023) 

*SpyCasts*

  • I Helped Solve the Final Zodiac Killer Cipher with David Oranchak (2024)
  • Australian National Day Special: Intelligence Down Under with John Blaxland (2024)
  • My Father the Navajo Code-Talker with Laura Tohe (2023) 
  • CYBER AUGUST: “So, You Want to Be a Codebreaker?” with Elonka Dunin and Klaus Schmeh (2021) 

*Beginner Resources*

  • Australia's Involvement in WWII, Australian Broadcasting Service, YouTube (2020) [4 min. video]
  • A short history of cyber espionage, D. O’Brien, Medium (2017) [Short article]
  • Signals Intelligence (SINGINT) Overview, National Security Agency (n.d.) [Short article]

DEEPER DIVE

Primary Sources 

  • WMD Report (2005) 
  • The ANZUS Treaty (1951)
  • Role and effectiveness of Signals Intelligence in World War II (1945)

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