#072 - Dr. Harry Patrinos | The World Bank’s Fight Against the Global Learning Crisis

Dr. Harry Patrinos is the Head of the Department of Education Reform at the University of Arkansas and a former Senior Adviser for Education at the World Bank. In this conversation, he shares his extensive experience, which spans over thirty years at the World Bank, focusing on the evolution of global education initiatives and the critical role of human capital. He discusses the challenges of promoting education, the importance of local ownership in projects, and the mistakes made during the initial school closures in the early stages of the coronavirus pandemic. Additionally, we explore the importance of addressing post-pandemic learning loss, what school systems should do to mitigate it, and how funds should be allocated to support unfinished learning. Thank you all for tuning in and hope you enjoy the show. 

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Dr. Harry Patrinos and His Work
06:00 Understanding Human Capital in Education
12:04 Navigating Funding and Project Management
18:08 The Importance of Local Ownership in Education Initiatives
24:02 Reflections on COVID-19 and Education
31:31 Addressing Learning Loss and Differentiation
36:46 The Role of Technology in Education
42:31 Balancing Standards and Funding in Education
47:50 Lessons Learned from the Pandemic

Takeaways:

• The World Bank shifted its focus from infrastructure to education in the 90s.
• Human capital refers to investments in people's skills and capabilities.
• Cultural differences can impact negotiations and project implementation.
• Countries often have a clear understanding of their educational challenges when seeking help.
• Local ownership of projects is crucial for sustainability and success.
• Education projects often take longer to implement than infrastructure projects.
• The COVID-19 pandemic highlighted the importance of maintaining educational data.
• Lack of information in education systems can lead to poor decision-making. Schools were closed for too long in most places during COVID-19.
• Lack of spending on education during the pandemic was a major mistake.
• Raising educational standards is essential for improving outcomes.
• The pandemic highlighted the importance of teachers in education.
• Online tutoring programs were effective but had low uptake post-pandemic.

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