65 episodes

Join Steven Kuhr for an engaging and informative podcast, 5 Minutes to Chaos. This podcast is designed for Emergency Managers and Crisis Leaders who navigate the dynamic, threat-rich landscape of today's world. Unlike other podcasts, 5 Minutes to Chaos features unscripted, unrehearsed discussions that provide valuable insights into major emergencies and critical incidents. With a focus on real-world experiences, this podcast promotes learning by examining the challenges faced by incident leadership and the solutions they derived. Tune in for a unique perspective on crisis management.

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Join Steven Kuhr for an engaging and informative podcast, 5 Minutes to Chaos. This podcast is designed for Emergency Managers and Crisis Leaders who navigate the dynamic, threat-rich landscape of today's world. Unlike other podcasts, 5 Minutes to Chaos features unscripted, unrehearsed discussions that provide valuable insights into major emergencies and critical incidents. With a focus on real-world experiences, this podcast promotes learning by examining the challenges faced by incident leadership and the solutions they derived. Tune in for a unique perspective on crisis management.

    Episode 61 - Colorado State EM Director Mike Willis and CISO Debbi Blyth Discuss the Response to a Catastrophic the 2018 CDOT Cyber Attack

    Episode 61 - Colorado State EM Director Mike Willis and CISO Debbi Blyth Discuss the Response to a Catastrophic the 2018 CDOT Cyber Attack

    Summary

    In this episode, Mike Willis and Debbie Blyth discuss a cyber attack on the Colorado Department of Transportation (CDOT) and the crisis management response to it. The attack occurred in February 2018 and affected CDOT's systems, including HR, payroll, contractor payment, variable message signs, toll collection, and more. The attack was initiated through a misconfigured virtual server in public cloud infrastructure, which allowed the attackers to gain access to the CDOT domain. The response involved the collaboration between CDOT, the Colorado Office of Emergency Management, and the Colorado National Guard. The National Guard was mobilized through a state emergency declaration by Governor Hickenlooper. The conversation highlights the importance of collaboration and trust in crisis management. The establishment of a unified command and the use of incident management teams were key in coordinating the response. Nutrition and hydration were prioritized to ensure the well-being and performance of the response team. The joint information center played a crucial role in managing public and internal messaging. Emergency purchasing and tracking were supported by the Office of Emergency Management. Lessons from this incident can be applied to the corporate sector, emphasizing the need for cybersecurity and crisis management teams to work together.



    Takeaways

    The cyber attack on CDOT was initiated through a misconfigured virtual server in public cloud infrastructure.

    The attack affected various systems and operations within CDOT, causing significant disruption.

    The response involved collaboration between CDOT, the Colorado Office of Emergency Management, and the Colorado National Guard.

    The National Guard was mobilized through a state emergency declaration by Governor Hickenlooper. Collaboration and trust are foundational in crisis management.

    Establishing a unified command and using incident management teams help coordinate the response.

    Prioritizing nutrition and hydration improves the performance of the response team.

    A joint information center is crucial for managing public and internal messaging.

    Emergency purchasing and tracking are important for cost assessment and accountability.

    Lessons from this incident can be applied to the corporate sector, emphasizing the need for collaboration between cybersecurity and crisis management teams.



    Contact Information

    Debbi Blyth

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-blyth/



    Mike Willis

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/brigadier-general-ret-michael-willis-a8b49a37/

    • 1 hr 12 min
    Episode 60 - PIO Sarah Lux Discusses Her Role an Emergency Management Public Information Officer and Her Experience in Disaster Deployments

    Episode 60 - PIO Sarah Lux Discusses Her Role an Emergency Management Public Information Officer and Her Experience in Disaster Deployments

    Summary

    In this conversation Podcast Host Steven Kuhr interviews Sarah Lux, an emergency management public information officer from Lake County, Florida. They discuss the role of public information officers (PIOs) in crisis management and share their experiences in the field. Sarah talks about her background in anthropology and how she transitioned into government communications. She also highlights the importance of utilities in crisis management and the challenges of communicating with the public during emergencies. They discuss the use of wastewater-based epidemiology (WBE) for COVID-19 testing and the need for effective communication strategies that go beyond social media. In this conversation, Steve and Sarah discuss the importance of having a comprehensive communication plan during emergencies. They highlight the need for social media to be part of a larger communication strategy that includes other tools like flyers, signage, and press conferences. Kuhr emphasizes the importance of building relationships with the media and other PIOs to ensure effective communication. Sarah shares her experiences during deployments and the challenges of rebuilding public trust after a lack of communication. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the significance of trust, early and accurate messaging, and admitting mistakes in crisis communication.

    Takeaways

    Public information officers (PIOs) play a crucial role in crisis management by ensuring effective communication with the public.

    Utilities face unique crisis situations and require proactive communication to address customer concerns and educate the public.

    Wastewater-based epidemiology (WBE) can be a valuable tool for predicting and managing public health crises, such as COVID-19.

    Effective crisis communication requires a combination of social media, traditional media, and building relationships with the press.

    Collaboration and coordination between PIOs from different organizations and municipalities are essential for consistent and unified messaging during emergencies.

    Having a comprehensive communication plan that includes social media as well as other tools like flyers, signage, and press conferences is crucial during emergencies.

    Building relationships with the media and other PIOs is essential for effective communication.

    Rebuilding public trust after a lack of communication can be challenging and requires admitting mistakes and providing accurate information.

    Early and accurate messaging is key in crisis communication, and it is important to set realistic expectations for the media and the public.

    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahmadelinelux/

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Episode 59 - FDNY Hazmat Chief Bob Ingram Discusses Broad Topics Centered on Hazmat and Terrorism Preparedness, His 9/11 Experience, and a Path Forward in Today's Risk Environment

    Episode 59 - FDNY Hazmat Chief Bob Ingram Discusses Broad Topics Centered on Hazmat and Terrorism Preparedness, His 9/11 Experience, and a Path Forward in Today's Risk Environment

    Summary

    In this episode, host Steven Kuhr welcomes Bob Ingram, a former battalion chief in the FDNY to the show. They discuss various topics related to emergency management and crisis response. They start by talking about a recent bridge collapse in Baltimore and the response to similar incidents in New York. They then delve into Bob's FDNY career and his role in special operations and hazmat. They also discuss the merger of EMS and FDNY and the challenges posed by lithium-ion battery fires. The conversation concludes with a discussion of the historical hazards of picric acid and asbestos. In this conversation, Chief Bob Ingram discusses the post-9/11 FDNY operations and the establishment of hammer teams to respond to white powder calls. He highlights the challenges and events that followed 9/11, including anthrax attacks, plane crashes, and a titanium explosion. Chief Ingram also emphasizes the importance of collaboration with other agencies, such as the Coast Guard and military, and the need to maintain capabilities and funding in the face of budget issues. He concludes by remembering Brian Mulhearn, a key figure in New York City emergency response.

    Takeaways

    Hammer teams were established to respond to the high volume of white powder calls post-9/11.

    The years following 9/11 were marked by numerous challenges and events, including anthrax attacks, plane crashes, and explosions.

    Collaboration with other agencies, such as the Coast Guard and military, was crucial in emergency response efforts.

    Maintaining capabilities and funding is essential to be prepared for future threats and disasters.

    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-ingram-35300a7/

    • 1 hr 22 min
    Episode 58 - Senior Emergency Manager Paul Penn Discusses His Extensive Career and Broad Crisis Management Topics

    Episode 58 - Senior Emergency Manager Paul Penn Discusses His Extensive Career and Broad Crisis Management Topics

    Summary

    In this episode of Five Minutes to Chaos, host Steven Kuhr interviews Paul Penn, an experienced emergency management leader. They discuss the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland - which occurred on the day of the recording - and how crisis management architecture potentially helped the response. They highlight the importance of communication in crisis management and the quick response to the Mayday call from the captain of the vessel. They also touch on the challenges of aging infrastructure and the need for crisis management in various industries. The conversation delves into the role of emergency managers and the importance of diversity and collaboration in the field. In this conversation, Steven Kuhr and Paul Penn discuss various topics related to emergency management and crisis management. They touch on the importance of public access to information about chemicals used in communities and the need for communities to be prepared for offsite consequences. They also discuss the role of Local Emergency Planning Committees (LEPCs) in emergency planning and the need for all-hazard programs. They highlight the importance of communication, coordination, and cultivating champions in emergency management. They also emphasize the need for executive support and the integration of health and safety principles in emergency management.



    Takeaways

    Communication is the backbone of failure and crisis management.

    Quick response to crisis situations can save lives.

    Aging infrastructure poses challenges and requires maintenance operations.

    Emergency managers need to consider diverse perspectives and collaborate with different disciplines. Public access to information about chemicals used in communities is important for community understanding and preparedness.

    Local Emergency Planning Committees (LEPCs) play a crucial role in emergency planning and should have an all-hazard focus.

    Communication and coordination are essential in emergency management, and there is always room for improvement in these areas.

    Executive support is necessary for effective emergency management.

    Cultivating champions and building relationships with key stakeholders can enhance the success of emergency management programs.

    Emergency management should integrate health and safety principles and consider the mental health impacts of emergencies.

    Prevention, mitigation, and resilience efforts are important in emergency preparedness.

    Emergency managers should have direct access to leaders and be able to communicate with all stakeholders.

    Being first, right, and credible in communication is crucial in emergency management.

    Emergency managers should focus on common sense and consideration in their decision-making.

    Emergency management is a combination of crisis management, environmental management, and health and safety management.



    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-penn-11b236/

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Episode 57 - FDNY Chief and Author Jerry Tracy Discusses Major Incident Management, Incident Process System, Incident Scene Intelligence, and His Recent Book on High-Rise Building Fires

    Episode 57 - FDNY Chief and Author Jerry Tracy Discusses Major Incident Management, Incident Process System, Incident Scene Intelligence, and His Recent Book on High-Rise Building Fires

    Summary

    In this conversation, Steven Kuhr and Battalion Chief Jerry Tracy discuss the various units and operations of the New York City Fire Department (FDNY). They highlight the extensive experience and expertise of the FDNY in responding to complex emergencies and crises. They also discuss the formation and role of squad companies, which are specialized units that can respond to fires, hazardous materials incidents, and other emergencies.

    The conversation emphasizes the importance of training and preparedness in effectively managing and responding to emergencies. The conversation covers various topics related to firefighting and emergency response. Some key themes include the importance of backup and coordination between different departments, the impact of tragic events on changing tactics and procedures, the need for integration between EMS and fire operations, and the development of rapid intervention teams (RIT) or firefighter assistance search teams (FAST).

    Chief Tracy discusses various topics related to firefighting and emergency response. He shares insights on the challenges faced when dealing with high-rise fires and the importance of effective communication during emergencies. Chief Tracy emphasizes the need for clear and concise communication between different agencies and departments to ensure a coordinated response. He also highlights the significance of strategic communication in emergency management. The conversation touches on the importance of training and preparedness, as well as the need for continuous learning and improvement in the fire service.

    Takeaways

    The FDNY is the largest fire department in the United States.

    Squad companies are specialized units within the FDNY that are trained to respond to a wide range of emergencies, including fires, hazardous materials incidents, and technical rescues.

    The FDNY has a diverse range of units and resources, including hazmat teams, urban search and rescue teams, wildland fire companies, and mobile respiratory units.

    Training, preparedness, and collaboration with other agencies are key factors in the FDNY's ability to effectively respond to emergencies and protect the public.

    Backup and coordination between different departments are crucial in emergency response situations.

    Tragic events often lead to changes in tactics and procedures.

    Integration between fire and EMS operations can improve overall response effectiveness.

    Rapid intervention teams (RIT) or firefighter assistance search teams (FAST) play a vital role in firefighter safety.

    Firefighters continue to face challenges and make sacrifices in their line of duty.

    Buildings can be 'born sick and dying,' referring to new construction, renovations, and abandoned or demolished structures. Emergency responders must be prepared for any situation.

    Effective communication is crucial during emergencies. Incident commanders and responders should have clear channels of communication to ensure a coordinated response.

    The incident process system is a structured approach to incident command that helps relieve the incident commander of micromanaging tasks. It allows units to fall into place as they arrive on the scene.

    Strategic communication between police, fire, and EMS is essential for a unified response. Agencies should work together to develop a coordinated strategy.

    The importance of training and continuous learning in the fire service cannot be overstated. Firefighters should be knowledgeable about their responsibilities and be prepared to adapt to different situations.

    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerry-tracy-6749b127/

    • 1 hr 50 min
    Episode 56 - Crisis Manager Michael Moquin Discusses Career and Growth Opportunities for Entry- and Mid-Career Level Crisis Managers

    Episode 56 - Crisis Manager Michael Moquin Discusses Career and Growth Opportunities for Entry- and Mid-Career Level Crisis Managers

    Summary

    In this conversation, Steven Kuhr and Michael Moquin discuss their experiences and observations in the emergency management and crisis management fields. They highlight the broad scope of emergency management, which encompasses both the public and private sectors. They also discuss the impact of COVID-19 on the industry, with an increase in crisis management jobs in the private sector. They emphasize the importance of reading job descriptions carefully to understand the specific focus of each role. They also discuss the need for a generalized crisis management framework that can be applied to various incidents, along with incident-specific annexes or playbooks. In this conversation, Steven and Mike discusse the importance of understanding the specific risks and hazards that a business or organization may face. They emphasizes the need for crisis managers to have a comprehensive understanding of the business operations and dependencies, both domestically and internationally. Mike and Steve also highlight the importance of networking and building relationships within the industry, as well as finding a niche within emergency management. Mike suggests that aspiring emergency managers should pursue certifications that align with their interests and career goals.



    Takeaways



    Emergency management is a broad field that includes both the public and private sectors.



    The COVID-19 pandemic has led to an increase in crisis management jobs in the private sector.

    Job titles in emergency management can vary, so it's important to read job descriptions carefully to understand the specific focus of each role.



    A generalized crisis management framework, along with incident-specific annexes or playbooks, is an effective approach to emergency management planning.



    Crisis managers should have a thorough understanding of the specific risks and hazards that a business or organization may face.



    It is important for crisis managers to have a comprehensive understanding of the business operations and dependencies, both domestically and internationally.



    Networking and building relationships within the industry is crucial for career development in emergency management.



    Aspiring emergency managers should pursue certifications that align with their interests and career goals.

    Contact Information

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-moquin/

    • 1 hr 2 min

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