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Art of Boring

Listen as Mawer Investment Management Ltd. takes a deeper dive into the investment philosophy and strategies that have helped put the odds in their clients’ favour for over 50 years.

  1. 17 HRS AGO

    Quarterly Update | Q2 2025

    In this episode Canadian bond portfolio manager, Crista Caughlin, and balanced portfolio manager, Steven Visscher discuss Q2’s market and economic activity. Topics covered include “Liberation Day's” tariff shocks, central bank policies, inflation, and other themes. Key Takeaways:   The announcement and subsequent deferral of sweeping U.S. tariffs caused significant market volatility, with a sharp initial selloff followed by a rapid recovery. The uncertainty around trade policy had a pronounced impact on economic growth expectations and market sentiment.   The quarter featured slowing growth in both the U.S. and Canada, with notable weakness in consumer spending and business investment. Despite expectations, inflation remained contained, and employment data presented a mixed picture—stronger in the U.S., weaker in Canada.   Central banks responded differently to domestic economic conditions. The ECB cut rates twice due to weaker growth and contained inflation, while the Fed and Bank of Canada adopted a wait-and-see approach, maintaining a dovish bias but holding rates steady.   There was a notable reversal in equity performance trends, with international and emerging market equities outperforming U.S. equities. This—among other factors—raised questions about the potential end of U.S. exceptionalism, though we remain cautious against drawing premature conclusions.   Credit spreads tightened to multi-decade lows, reflecting either investor confidence or complacency. Interest rates remained range-bound despite volatility, and the structural shift to higher neutral rates appears to have already occurred in recent years.   Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA – Institutional Portfolio Manager Guests: Crista Caughlin, CFA – Portfolio Manager Steven Visscher, CFA – Portfolio Manager   This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts.    Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.    Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.   Follow us on social:   LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/   Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/

    27 min

  2. JUN 25

    Customizing the Last Mile: AI, Innovation, and Mawer’s Tech Evolution

    In this episode, Justin Anderson, Mawer’s Chief Technology Officer, sits down to discuss the evolving “build-in vs. build-out” technology framework. Justin explains how Mawer approaches technology decisions—balancing vendor solutions with in-house customization—and shares practical examples from the firm, including proprietary solutions such as trade&MAWER and M42. The conversation explores how advances in AI and large language models are accelerating the shift toward more tailored, efficient solutions. He also offers insights for investors on what to look for in management teams as organizations adapt to rapid technological change.   Key Takeaways: The “build-in vs. build-out” framework focuses on how companies customize technology for their unique needs, beyond simply buying or building from scratch. Advances in AI and large language models are making it easier and more cost-effective to develop in-house solutions. Mawer’s internal platforms, such as trade&MAWER and M42, demonstrate the benefits of a build-out approach. Leadership and culture are critical—successful organizations encourage experimentation, embrace new technology, and balance innovation with risk management. Investors should look for companies whose management teams understand technology, address technical debt, and foster a culture of curiosity and adaptability. Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Justin Anderson, CFA, MSc, Chief Technology Officer   This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts.  Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.  Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/

    22 min

  3. JUN 11

    Energy, Gold, and Growth: Current Insights on Canadian Markets

    Mark Rutherford, co-manager of Mawer’s Canadian large cap strategy, discusses the ongoing volatility in oil, the unique role of gold, the outlook for Canadian banks, and the potential impact of recent political changes. Mark also shares how the Mawer team is leveraging AI to enhance their investment process and decision-making. Key Takeaways: • Oil Market: Global demand is rising, driven by economic growth and higher incomes, while supply is shaped by geopolitics, OPEC, and technology. • Canadian Banks: Loan growth is slow and provisions are higher amid uncertainty, but banks remain well-capitalized and stable. • Political Change: New pro-growth policies in Canada could boost productivity and create investment opportunities, especially in infrastructure and financials.  • Gold’s role: Gold remains a store of value; Mawer prefers low-cost producers and streaming/royalty models. • AI Integration: AI is streamlining research, improving efficiency, and generating new investment ideas using proprietary data and tools.    This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.  Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/

    28 min

  4. JUN 4

    Finding Hidden Gems in Emerging Markets

    Join Peter Lampert, Portfolio Manager of Mawer's Emerging Markets strategy, as he takes you on a journey from Polish meat counters to UAE boardrooms, revealing how a disciplined bottom-up approach uncovers extraordinary opportunities in overlooked markets. Key Takeaways: • Mawer’s bottom-up philosophy is consistent across markets, but emerging markets require a nuanced focus on the macro and geopolitical environment. • Emerging markets are highly diverse and less efficient, often offering more opportunities for disciplined, active investors. • On-the-ground research—such as recent trips to Poland—helps uncover overlooked businesses and understand local dynamics. • Portfolio examples include Dino Polska and Asseco Poland, both selected for strong management and growth prospects. • The asset class is much broader than China; significant opportunities exist in countries like Poland and the UAE.  • Emphasis on long-term growth, resilience, and finding companies that can thrive in uncertain environments. This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/

    16 min

  5. MAY 22

    Navigating Uncertainty: Global Small Caps, Process Innovation, and AI at Mawer

    In this episode, Karan Phadke, Portfolio Manager for Mawer’s global small cap strategy, shares insights on how small caps are navigating trade policy volatility, the importance of proactive management, and Mawer’s unique approach to process improvement and AI integration in investment research.   Key points from this episode:   • Small caps’ local focus provides insulation from global trade volatility. Importance of proactive management teams in uncertain environments. • Mawer’s “ant model” drives continuous process improvement and collaboration. • Systematic thesis tracking and biweekly case studies enhance investment discipline. • AI and proprietary data are integrated into Mawer’s research process. • Emphasis on not outsourcing critical thinking and decision-making. This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts.   Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.    Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.    Follow us on social:  LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/

    24 min

  6. APR 30

    The Long View: Global Equity Positioning in Uncertain Markets

    In this episode, global equity co-manager, Manar Hassan-Agha, examines how tariff policies have created uncertainty for businesses, particularly impacting capital deployment decisions and supply chains. Manar explains how a focus on asset-light, service-oriented businesses with recurring revenue provides resilience during volatile periods, with limited direct exposure to tariff-vulnerable exports. Through specific company examples like Admiral Group, UnitedHealth, and a beauty products business, he illustrates how the team evaluates short-term price movements versus long-term intrinsic value, emphasizing the importance of disciplined position sizing and maintaining a balanced, diversified portfolio across geographies and market caps during uncertain times. Recent tariff policies have created uncertainty for businesses, affecting capital deployment decisions and generating both direct impacts and second-order effects on consumer spending The Global Equity Portfolio has limited direct exposure to tariff-vulnerable exports, with a preference for asset-light, service-oriented businesses with recurring revenue Short-term price movements often contain significant randomness, highlighting the importance of focusing on long-term business fundamentals rather than reacting to news flow Market volatility can create investment opportunities, particularly in companies with temporarily impacted profitability but intact long-term earnings power Maintaining portfolio balance and diversification across quality factors, valuations, geographies and market caps remains essential during uncertain times Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Manar Hassan-Agha, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts.  Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/

    21 min

  7. APR 23

    Investment Opportunities in a Changing Military Landscape

    In this episode, we discuss the defense industry's evolution with equity analyst Joshua Samuel. He highlights the historical underinvestment in European defense, the recent increase in defense spending, particularly Germany's program, and the strategic importance of land systems. The conversation highlights how the current geopolitical environment has transformed defense from an underperforming sector to an investment opportunity, though valuations for companies like Rheinmetall now reflect much of this potential. Key Takeaways: Historical Underinvestment: European military spending dropped dramatically from 2.75% of GDP during the Cold War to approximately 1.3% over the last decade. This resulted in significant inventory reduction (77% fewer tanks, 57% fewer aircraft) and industry consolidation. Germany's Leadership: Germany's substantial defense spending package has garnered attention, though not all European countries have the same fiscal capacity to increase military budgets at the same rate. Supply Chain Constraints: Decades of underinvestment created production bottlenecks that can't be solved quickly. Companies like Rheinmetall, which maintained investment during lean periods, are well-positioned with superior production technology and cost structures. Investment Perspective: European defense companies offer potentially higher growth opportunities than U.S. counterparts due to the lower baseline of European defense spending and greater headroom for increases. Companies with established platforms typically present lower investment risk than those developing new technologies. Strategic Autonomy: With the U.S. potentially reducing its global security role, European nations are recognizing the need for self-sufficiency in defense capabilities to protect their interests and sovereignty. Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Director, Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Joshua Samuel, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst   This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts.   Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.   Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.   Follow us on social:   LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/   Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/

    38 min

  8. APR 16

    Finding Silver Linings: International Investing Through Trade Policy Turbulence

    In this episode, portfolio manager, Peter Lampert discusses international equities and the impact of tariffs on portfolio management. He provides insights into how his team has been preparing for potential tariffs since Trump's campaign, explaining that most of their international portfolio companies have limited export exposure to the U.S. and instead operate primarily in domestic markets across various regions. He highlights their strategic decision to exit positions that are heavily dependent on global trade, while maintaining confidence in businesses with resilient management teams capable of navigating economic uncertainty. He also shares personal strategies for maintaining a clear head during market volatility and points out some underappreciated silver linings amid tariff concerns.   Key points from this episode: How the international equity team prepared for tariff risks during Trump's campaign, viewing market reactions in February as too benign given potential economic impacts. Many companies in their international portfolio have minimal direct exposure to U.S. tariffs, with many operating domestic U.S. businesses or serving their local markets, like Compass (UK-based catering company with 60% US revenue). The importance of emotional discipline, especially during market volatility, and having a team structure that promotes rational decision-making. Potential silver linings that may have been overlooked by markets, including Europe's increased investment in defense and infrastructure, and China's opportunity to shift toward more domestic consumption.   Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Peter Lampert, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager   This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.    Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/

    15 min
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Listen as Mawer Investment Management Ltd. takes a deeper dive into the investment philosophy and strategies that have helped put the odds in their clients’ favour for over 50 years.

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    Mawer Investment Management Ltd.
  • Years Active
    2018 - 2025
  • Episodes
    193
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