The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast

George Couros

I am a learner, author, speaker, and sometimes I make podcasts talking about any and all of these things. One day, I will rap in my podcasts officially making me a SoundCloud rapper.

  1. 8 hrs ago

    Navigating Tough Conversations in School Leadership - Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns

    In this episode, we dive into one of the most challenging parts of leadership in education: navigating difficult conversations with staff, caregivers, colleagues, and school communities. Inspired by the book Connecting Through Conversation, this discussion goes beyond theory and into practical, real-world strategies that help leaders communicate with clarity, empathy, and confidence. We share stories from our own experiences in education leadership, including conversations that went well, conversations we would handle differently today, and the specific approaches that helped build stronger relationships and healthier school cultures. From addressing conflict and accountability to staying grounded during emotionally charged moments, this episode is packed with practical insights school leaders can use immediately. Questions explored in this episode include: • Why do so many school leaders avoid difficult conversations until situations become much harder than they need to be? • How can leaders balance accountability with empathy during emotionally charged situations? • What are practical strategies leaders can use to stay calm, grounded, and productive during high stakes conversations? • How can avoiding difficult conversations actually damage school culture more than having them? • What leadership lessons have we learned from difficult conversations we would handle differently today? Whether you are a principal, superintendent, instructional coach, teacher leader, or aspiring administrator, this conversation will help you think differently about communication, leadership, and culture in schools. Book Referenced in This Episode: Connecting Through Conversation https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GWWC65JW   ___________   👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3   The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

    38 min
  2. 3d ago

    The Sponge Factor and Lifelong Learning - George Couros

    What does it mean to stay teachable in a world changing faster than ever? In this episode, I reflect on the work of Daniel Pink and revisit an idea I first wrote about in 2015 called “The Sponge Factor,” the ability to absorb knowledge, feedback, and experiences, then transform them into better ideas and practices. We explore why this mindset matters more than ever in education and leadership, especially as AI and emerging technologies continue reshaping the future of work and learning. I also share personal examples of how I’ve tried to develop “sponginess” over the years, including: • Learning guitar and piano later in life • How blogging shaped my thinking and growth as a writer • Why consuming ideas I disagree with has made me a stronger learner and leader This conversation dives into curiosity, feedback, growth, skepticism, creativity, and why adaptability may become one of the most important human skills in the future. As I shared earlier this year: “We are not only preparing students for jobs that don’t currently exist, but also a workplace where many jobs will no longer exist.” If we want students to thrive in uncertainty, we have to help them become learners who can continually adjust, grow, and create. Questions for reflection: What experiences have helped you become more adaptable as a learner? How do we create schools and organizations that value growth over certainty? Are we helping students memorize information, or helping them learn how to learn? Link to Dan Pink video: https://www.instagram.com/p/DYUlEnSsS5q   Link to Blog Post: https://georgecouros.com/the-sponge-factor-dan-pink/   ___________   👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

    18 min
  3. Jun 28

    Building Culture Through Competitive-Collaboration - Tara Estep and Eric Rosburg

    What does it take to create a school culture where people feel supported, challenged, and genuinely connected to the work? In this conversation, I sit down with Tara Estep and Eric Rosburg from the Cedar Falls Community Schools to discuss how they intentionally build community-centered cultures that bring initiatives to life instead of simply asking people to comply with change. We explore the idea of “competitive collaboration,” where educators push one another to grow while also providing the support needed to succeed. Tara and Eric also share how Professional Learning Communities (PLCs) became a meaningful part of learning in their district because the work was built from the teacher perspective, with educators leading the implementation instead of having it done to them. In this episode, we discuss: How strong relationships make meaningful change possible Why ownership matters more than buy-in What “competitive collaboration” looks like in practice How teacher-led PLCs created deeper engagement and learning Ways leaders can create conditions where people thrive together Questions for reflection: Are the initiatives in your organization built with people or for people? How can collaboration both challenge and support growth? What changes when teachers help lead the learning instead of simply receiving it? If you enjoyed this conversation, like, subscribe, and share with someone passionate about leadership, culture, and meaningful learning. ___________     👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset   🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com   🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros   Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros   Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/   LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519   📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3   The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

    23 min
  4. Jun 25

    Ownership Over Buy-In

    You can pick up your copy of "Forward, Together" here on Amazon: https://a.co/d/04wH2gP8   One of the biggest leadership challenges in education is not getting people to “buy in,” but creating true ownership. In this episode, I explore the difference between compliance and commitment, and why schools that build ideas together are far more likely to create lasting change. Drawing from experiences as a teacher and principal, as well as ideas from my book Forward, Together, I share practical ways leaders can create cultures where people feel heard, valued, and connected to the direction of their organization. In this conversation, we discuss: • Why “buy-in” often creates short-term movement, while ownership builds long-term commitment • How mission and vision processes can unite entire school communities • Why healthy disagreement and respectful challenge strengthen organizations • The importance of acting on feedback instead of simply “hearing” people • A personal leadership story about choosing trust over winning an argument If we want meaningful and sustainable change in schools, people need more than inspiration. They need influence on the journey. Questions for Consideration: Are we trying to convince people to support initiatives, or are we creating opportunities for them to help shape them? Do people in our organization feel safe challenging ideas while still feeling valued? How often does feedback actually influence decisions in visible and meaningful ways? ___________     👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset   🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com   🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros   Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros   Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/   LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519   📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3   The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

    20 min
  5. Jun 21

    How to spark curiosity in learning - Olivia Odileke

    What happens when we stop focusing on delivering information and start creating the conditions for curiosity? In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros sits down with educator, instructional coach, and conference founder Olivia Odileke to explore why curiosity may be the most important skill we can cultivate in schools today. Olivia shares the inspiration behind the Spark Curiosity EDU Experience, an immersive conference designed to help educators move beyond compliance-driven instruction and create learning experiences that spark thinking, wonder, and engagement. Together, they discuss the role of psychological safety, the difference between retention and learning, the challenges facing modern classrooms, and how educators can rediscover joy and purpose in their work. In this conversation, you'll learn: • Why curiosity is the foundation for problem-solving, adaptability, persistence, and deeper learning • How "discovery before delivery" can transform classroom experiences • The importance of psychological safety for both students and educators • Why changing student experiences starts with changing adult experiences • How AI can support instructional decision-making without replacing human connection • Practical strategies educators can use immediately to spark engagement and thinking You'll also hear about innovative elements of the Spark Curiosity EDU Experience, including the Spark Wall, Shout-Out Wall, Fearless Educator Radio, and Olivia's Micro-Inquiry Framework. Connect with Olivia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-odileke/ Learn more about the conference: https://sparkcuriosityedu.com/ Questions for Reflection and Conversation: What are we doing in our classrooms that sparks curiosity before delivering information? How can we create greater psychological safety for both students and educators to take risks and learn? Are our students primarily consuming information, or are they actively uncovering and constructing understanding? #Curiosity #Education #Teaching #Learning #InstructionalDesign #StudentEngagement #EducationalLeadership #InnovationInEducation #InquiryBasedLearning #TeacherDevelopment #EdChat #AIinEducation #TheInnovatorsMindset #SparkCuriosity #ProfessionalLearning ___________   👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

    23 min
  6. Jun 18

    The Easier Technology Gets, the More Challenge Matters - On the latest Jonathan Haidt TED Talk

    Technology has made so many aspects of our lives easier. We can access information instantly, communicate in seconds, and use powerful AI tools with little training. But as technology removes friction, an important question emerges: Are we helping students develop the capacity to do hard things? In this episode, I explore ideas sparked by a recent TED Talk from Jonathan Haidt and reflect on the relationship between technology, attention, learning, and personal growth. While technology itself may be easier than ever to use, the work that leads to meaningful growth, deep learning, strong relationships, and thoughtful leadership often requires effort, persistence, and discomfort. We discuss: • Why learning technology is often easier than learning how to use it wisely • The connection between attention, distraction, and meaningful work • How convenience can sometimes work against growth and learning • Why difficult conversations, deep reading, and thoughtful writing still matter • What schools can do to help students embrace challenge rather than avoid it • The importance of becoming "techno-curious," balancing both skepticism and wonder Questions for Reflection and Conversation As technology becomes easier to use, what skills and dispositions become more important for students to develop? Where might convenience be helping learning, and where might it be unintentionally limiting growth? How can educators create experiences that encourage students to pursue meaningful challenges instead of always choosing the easiest path? What is something difficult in your own life that ultimately made you better because you worked through it? How do we help students use technology not just efficiently, but purposefully? Referenced Blog Post: The Easier Technology Gets, the More Challenge Matters https://georgecouros.com/the-easier-technology-gets-haidt/ This episode expands on the ideas shared in the blog and explores why, in a world where technology makes so much easier, helping students develop resilience, curiosity, critical thinking, and a willingness to embrace challenge may be more important than ever.   ___________   👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

    18 min
  7. Jun 14

    Building a community of belonging in education - Nancy Chung

    In this conversation with Nancy Chung, we explore what it really means to create a culture of belonging in schools, not only for students, but for educators as well. We discuss the importance of community in the classroom, why joy matters in education, and how educators can recover after difficult days without losing their passion for the work they do. Nancy also shares her journey of becoming a content creator in education, how she started building her online presence, and practical advice for educators who want to begin sharing their voice and ideas through social media. This episode is a reminder that strong schools are built through relationships, authenticity, resilience, and a willingness to keep showing up for one another. Nancy Chung’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fancynancyin5th/ Learn more about Nancy and her work: Questions for Consideration: What are some intentional ways we can help students and staff feel a true sense of belonging? How can educators recover from difficult days while still maintaining joy in their work? If you want to share your voice online, what is one small step you could take to start today? ___________     👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset   🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com   🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros   Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros   Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/   LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519   📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3   The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

    17 min
  8. Jun 11

    "Human Still Required" by Jeff Utecht - An Epic Book Review

    In this episode, I explore Human Still Required by Jeff Utecht and why this book will still matter 15 to 20 years from now. While it centers on artificial intelligence, its real power is in how it challenges leadership, decision making, and the systems we build in education. Rather than focusing on tools that will inevitably change, this conversation digs into what does not change: clarity of purpose, intentional design, and the human role in learning. If you are thinking about AI in schools, this discussion will help you move beyond hype and into meaningful, sustainable practice. Below are key passages discussed in the episode: “What AI does better than any previous disruption is expose systems exactly as they are. Strong leadership becomes more visible. Weak leadership becomes harder to hide. Productive habits get amplified. Hollow ones collapse faster. AI doesn’t ask schools to change their values—but it does demand that leaders finally be honest about them.” “There’s a temptation right now to double down on difficulty, or to retreat to paper and pencil, offline tasks, and analog work, to make tasks harder so AI can’t complete them easily. This is a mistake. Harder is not better. Clearer is better. Going offline may limit access to AI, but it doesn’t automatically increase thinking. Harder tasks and analog tools only matter if they are intentionally designed to develop skills. Otherwise, they simply slow the work down without deepening it. Paper-and-pencil work is valuable when the goal is the skill of handwriting, annotation, or sustained attention. But if the goal is judgment, analysis, transfer, or reflection, the medium is secondary to the thinking required. AI doesn’t expose a digital problem. It exposes a design problem.” “Leaders don’t need to oversell this. They need to name it clearly. Try language like: ‘We’re going to use AI to reduce administrative load, not raise expectations.’ ‘If the tool saves time, we’re reinvesting that time into instruction and support.’ ‘AI can draft and summarize. People still decide.’ ‘If something matters, a human reads it before it goes out.’ ‘We’re not chasing tools. We’re protecting human attention.’ That’s the tone schools need: calm, direct, and grounded.” “You cannot welcome the future while pretending the past didn’t matter.” “You cannot standardize personalization.” “Tradition matters. It carries wisdom, memory, and identity. But tradition without reflection hardens into habit—and habits don’t justify themselves. Many school practices continue not because they work, but because they’re familiar.” If you are a school leader, educator, or anyone thinking about the future of learning, this episode offers a grounded perspective on how to lead through change without losing what matters most. 📘 Check out the book here: https://a.co/d/00rfVyw2   ___________     👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset   🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com   🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros   Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros   Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/   LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519   📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3   The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20   Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d   Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/

    18 min

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I am a learner, author, speaker, and sometimes I make podcasts talking about any and all of these things. One day, I will rap in my podcasts officially making me a SoundCloud rapper.

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