Why President Musk & Trump Want a Shutdown

Apartheid Billionaire Elon Musk is planning on destroying social security. Can we stop the Department of Government Efficiency from dismantling social security? Alex Lawson, President of Social Security Works, joins Thom Hartmann to discuss what Trump and Musk are planning and what we can do to stop it and save social security. Plus, Veteran War Correspondent in Kyiv, Phil Ittner reports from Ukraine.

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